Have we signed him?
No, actually you haven't answered anything. You haven't answered how many times you've seen him play for Sporting ( and basing on this, you're right to make a judgement whether he's good enough or not, not on some tripe such as 'i haven't heard before him wc so he's not good enough ), you haven't answered question about left-footed, ball playing CBs that are experienced / proven quality that are obtainable.
You're simply making assumptions that are based on absolutely nothing and do it for the sake of complaining.
Eh, people are a bit fragile around here lately. I've certainly had some tired and emotional moments...Evidently not. It seems a bunch of people are just waiting to pounce on anyone that is questioning this signing, as per usual.
Evidently not. It seems a bunch of people are just waiting to pounce on anyone that is questioning this signing, as per usual.
Right, thanks for answering my point.Because we're failing to obtain / unwilling to spend on more expensive defenders. If you add those criterias such as ball playing, left footed, etc., then only defender that comes to my mind is Chiellini.
As charley said, you're entitled to have doubts about a signing, fair enough, but it's just stupid to label him as 'average' unless you've seen him play.
Excellent post.He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
The main thing is not writing him off before he has even signedEvidently not. It seems a bunch of people are just waiting to pounce on anyone that is questioning this signing, as per usual.
Patrice Evra, Vidic, Phil Jones and RVP off the top of head. That's not exactly a good thing considering that's over 9 years.
Some of your previous comments should be pasted into this thread to demonstrate the irony.
Listen. If you're fine with us signing him, who from all accounts I've been reading, hadn't performed very well against top opposition, then fair enough.
I'm not.
You've followed me in here to start something up, as usual, and derail the thread.
I'd suggest you PM me or go back to studying your fairy tales.
Patrice Evra, Vidic, Phil Jones and RVP off the top of head. That's not exactly a good thing considering that's over 9 years.
Stop following him!
Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
Arrogant supporter, believe me I'm not. Frustrated, I am. Especially after going off what Ed Woodward had been spouting about signing the best, competing at the top level etc.He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
I was thinking about posting in this thread, but then saw this.He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
Agreed. We haven't signed one of those since Andy Goram.
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
Add you continue stating opinions on players without watching them play. People will definitely take you seriously.Superb conversation. Thanks for the valid input. Continue on your way to lamenting the "Twitter generation".
Arrogant supporter, believe me I'm not. Frustrated, I am. Especially after going off what Ed Woodward had been spouting about signing the best, competing at the top level etc.
We, all, have every right to question the signings that come in.
I don't for a second believe he was our first choice, because of he was, at that price, it'd been wrapped up weeks ago.
Brilliant post.He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
That's great, thanks.Add you continue stating opinions on players without watching them play. People will definitely take you seriously.
People are being critical of you here because you're forming quite a senseless opinion. You're sort of saying Rojo won't be a good enough signing because he's not high profile enough, which is bizarre in my eyes given the record this club has of getting players like him and turning them into top players. Not to mention the fact that you haven't even seen the lad play, other than, I assume, in the WC, where he was really good as part of the best defense in the whole thing.That's great, thanks.
You go Sly, show 'em newbies!
Heh mate i´m just expressing my opinion and i genuinely believe Rojo can become a good player for United. It´s not like you can complain about the players that came from my club to yours. Ronaldo is well Ronaldo and Nani although he´s obviously struggling in the last two years, scored a succesful penalty in your Champions League conquest and was influencial in at least one or two league wins. Who knows, perhaps Rojo can help United to some silverware. The commitment and work rate will be there and that´s a certain.
Have we actually signed him? What's the most reputable source reporting it's done? I only start believing once SSN is one the case.
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
You leave him alone!
The main thing is not writing him off before he has even signed
Do you trust LVG? If so would you say he and his scouts can judge a good player. There is no such thing as a sure bet when buying a player but at least wait and see.
Arrogant supporter, believe me I'm not. Frustrated, I am.