Marcos Rojo | Manchester United Player Pending Medical

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No, actually you haven't answered anything. You haven't answered how many times you've seen him play for Sporting ( and basing on this, you're right to make a judgement whether he's good enough or not, not on some tripe such as 'i haven't heard before him wc so he's not good enough ), you haven't answered question about left-footed, ball playing CBs that are experienced / proven quality that are obtainable.

You're simply making assumptions that are based on absolutely nothing and do it for the sake of complaining.

He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
 
Evidently not. It seems a bunch of people are just waiting to pounce on anyone that is questioning this signing, as per usual.
Eh, people are a bit fragile around here lately. I've certainly had some tired and emotional moments...
 
Because we're failing to obtain / unwilling to spend on more expensive defenders. If you add those criterias such as ball playing, left footed, etc., then only defender that comes to my mind is Chiellini.

As charley said, you're entitled to have doubts about a signing, fair enough, but it's just stupid to label him as 'average' unless you've seen him play.
Right, thanks for answering my point.
 
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
Excellent post.
 
Evidently not. It seems a bunch of people are just waiting to pounce on anyone that is questioning this signing, as per usual.
The main thing is not writing him off before he has even signed

Do you trust LVG? If so would you say he and his scouts can judge a good player. There is no such thing as a sure bet when buying a player but at least wait and see.
 
Lovren had the same or more doubts over him at the start of last season, this season he was sold for 20m. People may have doubts for good reason, but under different circumstances things can be very different.

If we are signing him for the left side of defence I believe he'll be fine.​
 
Patrice Evra, Vidic, Phil Jones and RVP off the top of head. That's not exactly a good thing considering that's over 9 years.

Rafael and Januzaj were good deals too. 300000 pounds for a boy named Adnan apparently :drool:

Kagawa and Mata for 50/55 million combined is pretty good too, especially in todays market. De Gea was nicely done. Hernandez was a decent one, Herrera looks to be a good one too. We've done some good deals over the years, but we need some more absolute steals that turn into world class to make our transfer business brilliant, doesn't matter how old they are.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9411803.stm
 
Listen. If you're fine with us signing him, who from all accounts I've been reading, hadn't performed very well against top opposition, then fair enough.

I'm not.

What? You are proving that you are completely cluess regarding Rojo. Not only he did very well against top opposition in the World Cup, he was very good against Porto and Benfica at our stadium last year. He was very good in the big matches. The concentration lapses come from games against Arouca or Rio Ave, when he gets too confident and prone to some mistakes.
 
Patrice Evra, Vidic, Phil Jones and RVP off the top of head. That's not exactly a good thing considering that's over 9 years.

The first two undoubtedly, but Phil Jones was a lot of money and we are yet to really see the best of him unless this is the best of him. Arse handed us their arse over RvP, although, in hindsight, he was worth every penny, we paid big money for someone in the last year of their contract though.
 
Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.

Yup, such are times sadly. For me Portugal was always a bloody mine of talent and I associated it with Porto, Benfica and Sporting who were creating top players and then selling them for great profit. Since I have seen very little of Rojo, I'm pretty cautious with my clueless judgement, just as I was with Benatia, simply haven't seen enough of them. And as I've said earlier, there just aren't many defenders that are left footed, ball-playing and experienced/proven on top of that. Vermaelen is definitely not one of them and I'm happy that we've missed out for him, for one or another reason.
 
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
Arrogant supporter, believe me I'm not. Frustrated, I am. Especially after going off what Ed Woodward had been spouting about signing the best, competing at the top level etc.

We, all, have every right to question the signings that come in.

I don't for a second believe he was our first choice, because of he was, at that price, it'd been wrapped up weeks ago.
 
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
I was thinking about posting in this thread, but then saw this.

Thank you!
 
Hope nani has a good season in Portugal and someone comes in with a decent offer for him next summer.
 
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.

Well said, sir.
 
Will Nani be definitely part of the deal? sounds like just cash.
 
Superb conversation. Thanks for the valid input. Continue on your way to lamenting the "Twitter generation".
Add you continue stating opinions on players without watching them play. People will definitely take you seriously.
 
Arrogant supporter, believe me I'm not. Frustrated, I am. Especially after going off what Ed Woodward had been spouting about signing the best, competing at the top level etc.

We, all, have every right to question the signings that come in.

I don't for a second believe he was our first choice, because of he was, at that price, it'd been wrapped up weeks ago.

Fair enough. Each one has their own expectations. You have every right to give your opinion, but i also have the freedom to correct you since i have better knowledge of a player from my team, which i saw every game and the home games at the stadium.

I´m not going to discuss if he was the first, second or third choices. I don´t follow United as closely as you, so i´ll accept your opinion. What i do know is that sometimes, some United supporters have unrealistic expectations and don´t analyze things rationally. Sometimes it isn´t a matter of Woodward incompetence. Is it so hard to understand that under the current circunstancies, it´s harder to get the top top players? You can´t offer champions league football. You are approaching the transfer deadline and it´s harder to negotiate with clubs and get players.
At the moment since United is in a transition phase, some clubs are more appealing or United isn´t appealing enough. What´s wrong in trying to regain your status with players like Rojo? Even if you sign Di Maria or Vidal, players like Rojo are needed. Aggressive, physically strong and pacy players who can improve a sector of your team that is clearly struggling. I mantain my opinion. I think Rojo will adapt and become a fan favourite. And since i´m staying in this forum for the long run, i´ll be here to see if i´m right or wrong. But at least i can talk with some knowledge of the player. I´m affraid i can´t say the same of you. You just have a prejudice against him because you don´t know him at all. Don´t take this the wrong way. It´s just my opinion.
 
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.
Brilliant post.
 
That's great, thanks.
People are being critical of you here because you're forming quite a senseless opinion. You're sort of saying Rojo won't be a good enough signing because he's not high profile enough, which is bizarre in my eyes given the record this club has of getting players like him and turning them into top players. Not to mention the fact that you haven't even seen the lad play, other than, I assume, in the WC, where he was really good as part of the best defense in the whole thing.
 
You go Sly, show 'em newbies!

Heh mate i´m just expressing my opinion and i genuinely believe Rojo can become a good player for United. It´s not like you can complain about the players that came from my club to yours. Ronaldo is well Ronaldo and Nani although he´s obviously struggling in the last two years, scored a succesful penalty in your Champions League conquest and was influencial in at least one or two league wins. Who knows, perhaps Rojo can help United to some silverware. The commitment and work rate will be there and that´s a certain.
 
Heh mate i´m just expressing my opinion and i genuinely believe Rojo can become a good player for United. It´s not like you can complain about the players that came from my club to yours. Ronaldo is well Ronaldo and Nani although he´s obviously struggling in the last two years, scored a succesful penalty in your Champions League conquest and was influencial in at least one or two league wins. Who knows, perhaps Rojo can help United to some silverware. The commitment and work rate will be there and that´s a certain.

I agree with you, most of my mates says he's a good player. I don't even want the top bracket players, it's more enjoyable to sign less known players that go on to become invaluable for us. Always hated Nani though.
 
Pft, be quiet Sly. I'd prefer to listen to the opinions of people who've never seen him play than the opinions of someone who supports the club he plays for.
 
Have we actually signed him? What's the most reputable source reporting it's done? I only start believing once SSN is one the case.
 
Have we actually signed him? What's the most reputable source reporting it's done? I only start believing once SSN is one the case.

There´s nothing on the site of the three portuguese sports papers. I was curious when i came from work and saw your topic title as done dealio.
 
He won´t answer because i doubt he watched a single Rojo game for Sporting. This comes from this generation of arrogant supporters who think you should only buy the Hummels or Vidal´s of the market. Even if you can´t get them under the current circunstancies. Supporters who neglect and downplay the less glamorous. Well sometimes you can get real gems from those peripheral markets. Players like Vidic, Januzaj or Ronaldo you know. Why are these supporters some adamant that he is deadwood? It´s not like the world class players don´t struggle to adapt to English football. I´ve seen alot of proven players from leagues such as Spain and Italy fail at England. This isn´t Football manager. From what i know from Rojo, he is more than capable of becoming a decent player for United. Labeling him as deadwood is pure madness and gives a very bad impression of certain United fans.

Good post. This thread has taken a turn for the ridiculous, we haven't even signed him yet, might not even do so, and people are looking to offload him. Mental.
 
If this doesn't go through, I will be proper disappointed with the thread title change. Would make us as bad as attention-seeking newspapers.
 
The main thing is not writing him off before he has even signed

Do you trust LVG? If so would you say he and his scouts can judge a good player. There is no such thing as a sure bet when buying a player but at least wait and see.

I trust LVG but I'm still allowed an opinion. I didn't think he was particularly good at the WC and it seems like we're buying him off the back of that... Also the fact sporting fans are (apparently) surprised we're willing to pay £16m doesn't fill me with confidence. Not to say he won't be a good player for us, he still has to convince me is all
 
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