That's what I would have thought. Not sure why we'd want a defender who didn't do great at arsenal and was always injured. We have enough of those already.
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At least he is better looking than Tevez!
Oh and not an injury waiting to happen like the one Barca just bought!
Oh and not an injury waiting to happen like the one Barca just bought!
Cheers. Evans is class when he wants to be but that doesn't happen nearly enough for a player that's at his prime. Add to that he's injury prone and he has a tendency to have a brain fart at least once or twice in nearly every single game. Smalling is class but he's not played in his preferred position of centre back enough and Jones is Jones.
Our options at centre back are hardly options the top teams envy right now at this moment in time. I was just wondering if Rojo would be more of the same but thanks for clearing that up. Personally, I can see him becoming a fan favourite. Let's just hope he doesn't do a Heinze/Tevez on us. Those pesky Argentinians!
How much we are paying for him again??
£16m + Nani going on loan the other way.
The Sport Witness article is written by Jan Hagen guys...
Jim White's tweet the other day has put me right off listening to them.
I worried it would be more. Not bad if hes half decent.
I think Rojo is physically suited for the Premier League. I think he will deal well with the pace of the game. But let´s see how he adapts playing against superior opponents. Against teams like Stoke, he will be an absolute must. Aggressive and almost unbeatable in the areal game. In big games he has been good as well. Good performances against Porto and Benfica at home last year. I can´t vouch for him if Barcelona or Real comes knocking. When he came to us from Spartak, it was a messy affair fueled by him. His supposed move to Manchester was more of the same. I wouldn´t be surprised if he did it again, if he is a hit and a Spanish big club comes for him.
Every club going for top 4 needs 4 quality defenders. We are currently at approximately 0.
If he manages to do that well a job for us that they become interested, then I'll personally drive him to Spain. Our defence (and squad quite frankly) is a shambles at the moment.
Not entirely true. Can you name 4 quality defenders at Liverpool?
I don't think we need the most impeccable defender in the world. Ironically, an erstwhile shit premier league defender like David Luiz would have been perfect for LvG's 3-5-2. As long as Rojo is aggressive and quick to spot danger, that's all he'll need.
That is true
Good point.
Two points.
If he's unbeatable in the air, then this is a huge deal given it's the premier league.
Also, sly, if you can even consider the possibility of real or barca coming knocking, then that means you think he can become a top class defender ?
He's just started following Cuadrado on Instagram
He's clearly on the caf and is as much of a transfer muppet himself.
What we need is to play as a unit IMO. Imagine a united side playing as a proper singular unit. It hides so many flaws in a team it's silly. One nervousness and individualism goes away with this united team, replaced by confidence and cohesiveness, it will probably be judged very differently by many people. But that will take time.
He's just started following Cuadrado on Instagram
Couldnt get excited about him in the slightes after all the Di Maria talk. Although he is a good player. fecking transfer period.
I really hope not but it's the sad truth. Personally, I can't see the point in not getting behind the team as a whole. Too much negativity from fans about certain players in our team. Whether everyone thinks he's underwhelming or not LVG is signing him and he (fingers crossed) will be a UTD player let's just get behind the whole feckin team for pete's sake.
So the 11 that started on Saturday would have won if they were more confident.
Interesting.
Delusional, but interesting.
Apparently after 2 defenders so who's the other going to be?
We'll subsidise Nani's wages to sweeten the deal. I think that's not a bad thing to do. A good season for Nani in Portugal and he might actually become a player again.
Would it be Blind?
If you're suggesting we do a trade - our 11 from Saturday for Southampton's then I'm glad you aren't in charge of our negotiations.
Just like van gaal. I don't mind that side of non existent delusion.
I'm not saying we don't have weaknesses but if you see the issues we've developed in the way we play and lack of confidence (especially at home), this team is playing well below the level it can. Hopefully LVG rectifies that.
Of course. I´ve always said that. I´m counting on Van Gaal to make him evolve to that point. With Van Gaal´s track record with players in terms of influence and improvement, why not? Like i said you just need to watch him play to see the positives of his caractheristics and why he could be suited for the premier league. If he´s physically strong, good pace and decent on the ball why won´t a World Class manager be able to improve him? His negative points such as concentration lapses and positional errors can be diminished by Van Gaal´s work. His disciplinary problems is the same. Mind you in the last year there was some improvement in that aspect. He can´t do the same at England. Refs aren´t as lenient and i´m sure Van Gaal will be as strict as Leonardo Jardim or even more. His good world cup came after a very good campaign for Sporting. Why wouldn´t he keep evolving?
Surely more for DM, & occasional WB cover, we need a commanding preferably experienced head in the defence, hard to think of many options.
Vidic going is one of our biggest mistakes of last season.
Bit OTT. You are confusing a collective acting as a strong unit versus an individual player's ability.
Players like Rafael, Smalling, Evans & co have shown quality when they have had a run of games with a consistent partner. When we constantly change/rotate players so no understanding can be established it is no wonder they appear weak or poor. It has happened to every one of the top sides in the EPL, including Chelsea and City.
On Saturday, I was surprised at the whining about us playing Blackett when he was solid and very good on the ball. He isn't a Vidic or Rio at their prime yet, but neither where they at that age.
On other poster suggested we had our squad wasn't even the 7the best squad in the league. It's beyond obvious that we are severely under performing , for many reasons. The idea that this squad is rubbish is a poor one.
It's a good few days now since the stories began to circulate, not great that it's still yet to be concluded. Especially with more business integral.
With the way the preseason went, the players were hardly feeling unconfident.
Yet it still went to shit. Too many players made of glass, too many players beyond redemption. There's a limit to what VG can do.
BBC text mentioned Mexes this morning (not sure which rag originated it), but he's 32. Surely that ship has sailed?
Skrtel, Agger, Sakho and Lovren.
Lots of mixed comments about this lad.
From what I've read so far - he seems to be a decent player, but not a great one, especially as a centre back. I also find his behavior on and off the pitch quite worrying, especially all those stupid fouls and cards, is that something our defence (with all experience gone) really need right now?
The funny part is that we wanted to sign a crock Vermaelen before moving to Rojo, so he's a plan B of plan B, as we probably wanted Hummels in the first place.
On the other hand, he was in the WC 2014 All-Star team based on Castrol Index and played as a left-back.
He's not a bad player then, as of now he's an instant upgrade to what we have, but if he's at level we should aspire as a team who want to be back at the top level - time will tell. Hopefully LVG can do some magic and make something out of him.
We still need another defender, and I mean quality one - but probably not in this transfer window.
From what I've read so far - he seems to be a decent player, but not a great one, especially as a centre back. I also find his behavior on and off the pitch quite worrying, especially all those stupid fouls and cards, is that something our defence (with all experience gone) really need right now?
The funny part is that we wanted to sign a crock Vermaelen before moving to Rojo, so he's a plan B of plan B, as we probably wanted Hummels in the first place.
On the other hand, he was in the WC 2014 All-Star team based on Castrol Index and played as a left-back.
He's not a bad player then, as of now he's an instant upgrade to what we have, but if he's at level we should aspire as a team who want to be back at the top level - time will tell. Hopefully LVG can do some magic and make something out of him.
We still need another defender, and I mean quality one - but probably not in this transfer window.
Pre season is just a test environment. It will take more than a few wins in friendly matches to restore the damage last season caused. But the other bit I mention is super important, and only LVG coaching the life out of them can change that.
Obviously there's a limit to what LVG can do. He's not going to make this team challenge for the title. But he can make them a cohesive and proper team. Teams with far lesser ability of that in the premier league. We've lost it. We need to regain it. Till then well always be a few levels below what the squad is capable of.
LVG acknowledged both points, too. He said he were nervous, and didn't play as a team. Perfect analysis by him.
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I get where he is coming from, though it would need more that confidence to get a win.
During the early games in pre-season, the majority of fans will argue that we moved the ball a lot quicker than we did the whole of last season, we had more movement and there did not appear to be any nervousness. That was until we met Liverpool, when for a good 40 minutes, it was just like last year. However, a goal changed the confidence and the players started to express themselves.
On Saturday, though they were nervous from the off, when we went a goal behind, you could see the confidence just disappear. It was only when we got a goal, that things appeared to get better. Second goal, was a killer, you could see a lot of players' heads drop.
You missed the quality part.
OK here's the thing...
We needed a defender to play in a back three. Now it seems we've signed one.
But everything about this seems average.
He's hardly a world class defender, never set his old club alight with amazing games. He's had a decent world cup but then again so did half of the Algeria national team.
It's like we've gone "Right, who's available... £16m? Good price. We'll have him."
We've paid average money for an average player, when now more than ever we need quality and in order to get that we need to spend big money.
He may turn out to be great. But he has an equal chance of being absolute crap at the level we need him to be at.
We simply don't have time to get the signings wrong right now. This one reeks of desperation.
We needed a defender to play in a back three. Now it seems we've signed one.
But everything about this seems average.
He's hardly a world class defender, never set his old club alight with amazing games. He's had a decent world cup but then again so did half of the Algeria national team.
It's like we've gone "Right, who's available... £16m? Good price. We'll have him."
We've paid average money for an average player, when now more than ever we need quality and in order to get that we need to spend big money.
He may turn out to be great. But he has an equal chance of being absolute crap at the level we need him to be at.
We simply don't have time to get the signings wrong right now. This one reeks of desperation.
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