Ugarte , Zirkzee and Yoro is pretty good window considering last season.
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Definitely. One attacker. One midfielder. One defender is a good start. All youngsters with potential as well. Not high earners either.
Depending how you define verbal and formal offers, both can be true.
Maybe we are going for someone under radar like how we secured Berrada and Vivell for structure
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Ben Jacobs because he knows nothing .
Yeah he's not exactly reliable for transfers
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Might move things along a bit.
How did this happen for £60 million?
Yeah that can't be the real figure surely, otherwise we would absolutely have been all over it
Jacobs is a stickler for the literal. He is more right on some clubs than others, but he rarely goes sensational or outright wrong.
If one club has been talking to another, and the club verbally floats offers over the course of several discussions: some see that as bids.
Others don’t count something as a bid until a formal offer is presented.
The truth is somewhere in between. Teams probably test waters all the time with little intention apart from gauging options. BUT, I generally believe clubs have discussed and know what will be accepted by the time a formal bid is submitted.
Jacobs just likes to discuss the nuances of that …. a lot.
Who are”PSGhub”?
You are about to sign one of the most gifted, but young, defenders in the world. Signing an absolute mauler who can also progress the ball well as outlet to help shield a defender of that profile makes even more sense.
An attacker goes in studs up on Yoro? Ugarte will sort them.
PSG getting Neves for 70m Euros would be weird… but I think Ugarte would be better for United anyway.
An attacker goes in studs up on Yoro? Ugarte will sort them.
PSG getting Neves for 70m Euros would be weird… but I think Ugarte would be better for United anyway.
Isn't this source poor?
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The source is RMCsport, so no it's not poor.
I thought United offered the same £59m (€70m) ?
Yeah plus addons wasn't it
If Neves is available at that price we should be all over that
Maybe we are
Why would he choose Manchester United over PSG?
Nah not this time
Ask Leny Yoro
PSG might offer better payment conditions, add ons or enjoy better business relations for being a good client beyond the raw number.
But maybe it's worth trying to join in ?
I think Ugarte should be better business.
Might be more down to the wages PSG are willing to offer. Reducing the wage structure seems to be important to INEOS. Zirkzee already on a very low wage around £50k. Early suggestions that Yoro will be around £100-120k (increasing each year). If PSG are offering Neves a £200k+ wage, we might not be prepared to match that.
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Got to love these kind of posts on a Man United forum.
Ugarte is supposedly on 3m€ a year at PSG. Gross ? After taxes ? Reliable ? Unsure but let's assume it's correct and that's 60k/week. I think PSG wised up a little management wise on that front, they must be roughly the same level of bad we are. But maybe there's a fat signature bonus with it.
Quick question. Who's better for our team. Ugarte or Neves?
Ugarte hands down.
Now that the initial lure of having FIFA cover star players to play with has worn off … and I dont think it’s coming back. With that in mind you are left playing in a league that most people aspire to leave when they make their big move.
CL is nice, but not so nice if they are the ONLY games you play that people really care about, especially international audiences outside of France.
The number of people watching you play if you are in the PL, and in a team like Man United simply dwarfs anything PSG can offer.
I mean, there are other reasons, but that’s one of the biggest I can think of
Ugarte
I agree but I will say that the club clearly have a very well defined transfer strategy this summer that involves going after certain profiles of players. I assuming this fits into a holistic vision of what the squad actually needs, and balanced against available resources. It’s likely that after the key targets are secured, there just aren’t enough resources or wiggle room to pursue this particular deal. It’s a shame but also entirely understandable.
This far we’ve brought in Zirkzee and Yoro for combined base fees of 77m. That’s about what we spent on Antony. Pretty incredible transfer business so far. It also appears we’ve raised around 40-45m from the sales of Greenwood, Alvaro, Kambwala, and VdB.
How come?
How about United just being a far bigger club than PSG can ever dream of. Now that they've lost the final player from the trio of Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, they have even less of an appeal within world football.
You have Mainoo who is an outright star as a very progressive 8. You play with Bruno who is essentially a 10, but likes to roam and is very attack oriented.
You are signing one of the ELITE defenders, but he is still very young, and you are highly likely to pair him either with Licha (who is excellent … but still size challenged) or so wind completely new to the team (where the coordination with defenders could be off)
You are not set up to play with a regista instead of a DM on top of all that.
United need an imposing physical presence, who is also composed on the ball and be a reliable outlet that can get the ball forward.
Those are rare. Ugarte would do SO much to tie the team together as a shield for a young defense, a master of the dark arts as well (which is an underrated quality), and still provide a very good technical midfielder. I watched him destroy Bruno and Brazil’s attempts to play through the middle.
Compare that bringing a very small player with questionable defensive skills, seems a ton younger than Ugarte (but isn’t), and ideally wants to be a deep tempo controller (which requires inverting someone to play next to him at the very least… which would change the shape of your teams play)
It doesn’t seem like a hard decision to me.
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