Can someone explain to me why so many tacticos are unimpressed? I remember watching a couple of Sporting games a couple years ago and he had a good passing game on him. But the experts all say that he can’t pass forward and that he’s too limited a player compared to the likes of Rodri. Some help here?
Manuel Ugarte | Romano - he’s signed | Awaiting Club announcement
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
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I don't like postponing such an important signing to deadline day. Risky. We are arguing with PSG over 5-10m euros for a month now, basically.
My understanding is when he initially broke through in Uruguay he looked like a press resistant carrying midfielder but since the move to PSG he's more of an elite ball winner and possession recycler. I wonder if it started once he ended up at Sporting, as he replaced Palhinha who is now a very similar player to Ugarte -- covers every blade of grass, tackles at a ridiculous rate.
Maybe the move to us in a midfield two would unlock that side of his game again.
Wait is this a test on how little United fans know about this fella? Ugarte was an unused sub in both legs of the semis mate (Vitinha started and finished both legs if I remember correctly), the only game PSG won against Dortmund last year (They played each other 4 times) was actually when Ugarte started a game for PSG! I thought his performances in Copa were decent, didn't he have a good game vs Brazil?
Yeah it's piling pressure on Casemiro
Euros not pounds and I think we'll still be able to satisfy the regulations no problem based on everything I read. The question is if it's responsible to spend that money and if the new owners will sanction it. I personally don't think it's irresponsible given our revenues are 750M EUR for last year and wages were ~200M EUR. Not to mention guys like Martial, Varane left opening up a bunch of wage space and reduced wage budget permanently.
Net spend (all in euros) is -104M (current window), -143M, -219M, -110M, -64M over the past five.
Perhaps tactical instructions I would imagine. You'd be surprised how many times players are asked to keep it simple in possesion simply because they are playing with more technically gifted players.
Also it's not unknown for a player to arrive at a club and take a while before being fully comfortable expressing themselves especially when that club has a bigger stature and is competing against a better calibre of opponent as is the case at PSG.
I think once he's settled and comfortable at a club you may see a more creatively expressive player (much like the player he looked at times playing for Sporting).
They need to sell him, so it makes sense to push them if we are to leave our past reputation for overpaying behind.
My thoughts exactly! He’ll be forced to move the ball forward in our team and harken back to his Sporting days. Helps that he’s got the ability to tackle in him. Uruguayan! So the intensity will still be there.
Mostly due what PSG asked him to be and how Zaire-Emery rise to occasion and was better at every single one of those tasks.
I've been hoping for Sancho to be included as well. Why not just a two way loan though (us getting Ugarte for a year on loan, PSG getting Sancho for a year)?
That works similarly to a swap deal financially, but means we don't have to commit to Ugarte long term if an even better midfielder (e.g., Wharton) is available next year. Also, by next summer Sancho only has one year left on his deal and would be easier to move or just let the contract expire.
From PSG's perspective, they get to try Sancho out for relatively free with no commitment. I'm sure they'd prefer to sell Ugarte to us fully, but there are no other buyers out there for leverage. This way at least they preserve his value and if he performs well for us there will be takers next year.
New FM is out in October with the biggest overhaul in a decade for it's GUI and other stuff.Tried getting back into FM this year but gave up within a few game weeks because the squad and non-playing staff needed too much re-work
It really laid bare the issues with our squad building, dressing room and so on, it probably increased my empathy towards ETH especially after the injuries.
Whoops, I didn't know that at all, thanks for setting me straight. I just assumed the compilation of the Dortmund game I watched was the semi-final!
This fecking guy
Sometimes I want to know how the negotiations just keep on going and going and going for weeks sometimes months.
Have you never been involved in negotiations?
Football transfers negotiations? No.
Seems like this is going to happen.
Obligation to buy…so looks like PSG will get their 60 million after all. I couldn’t care as long as he performs to a 60million worth player
Loan with obligation makes sense. Let’s just hope if it’s a high fee the obligation is that we win the league.
I felt a loan was going to be the way. Smart as we’ve struggled to sell
Surprised PSG aren’t taking Sancho on loan as part of it
So without another sale, a loan works best for the books?
Loan with obligation to buy, not an option like with Amrabat, sounds like it would work for everyone involved
Loan with obligation to buy, not an option like with Amrabat, sounds like it would work for everyone involved
How much is the loan fee going to be though? I cant really see us agreeing to pay a large one
If it’s an obligation to buy then it doesn’t matter does it cause it ll be subtracted from the total ending fee.
Good news
I thought he had an Uruguyian agent and Mendes was acting as an intermediary?
£10m loan and £35m next summer.
Hope this will be the breakthrough to bring him here! We’ve all been waiting for it!
I'd absolutely love if that was a loan with an option to buy.
His performances dropped after he moved to PSG. He was still alright but nowhere near the levels he showed at Sporting. It remains to be seen if that was due to him struggling in a better league or not.
Loan with an option to buy allows us to assess if it was a one off and if he can adjust to the PL before spending big dosh on him. It will never happen though.
His performances dropped after he moved to PSG. He was still alright but nowhere near the levels he showed at Sporting. It remains to be seen if that was due to him struggling in a better league or not.
Loan with an option to buy allows us to assess if it was a one off and if he can adjust to the PL before spending big dosh on him. It will never happen though.
Outstanding negotiating from Ineos if that turns out to be true.
It’s an obligation to buy, not an option.
Would be painful if he had a poor first season.
It will definitely be an obligation.
I think they're just dreaming, hence the final sentence. I deleted my post saying similar to this when I realised I'd completely skipped over that bit.
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