Absolutely spot on.
25
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 32
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 1
- Yellow cards
- 10
He's a decent player, if we played with a 3 man midfield we would be even better.
Don't think we got the ball to him or Casemiro anywhere near enough to judge them all that much.
The teams goal seems to be how many slow sideways passes can we make across the back line.
The teams goal seems to be how many slow sideways passes can we make across the back line.
At least he fights for the team and doing what he does the best, I wish we have more fighters like him in the team.
Our scouting team knew his strengths and weaknesses before signing, so its our mistake to bring him and expect him to play like a Pirlo.
Amad, Ugarte,Garnacho, Bruno,Yoro, Dorgu, Martinez and Maz are the only few players we can trust for next season and hope we can bring in 4/5 first team players to get going.
Our scouting team knew his strengths and weaknesses before signing, so its our mistake to bring him and expect him to play like a Pirlo.
Amad, Ugarte,Garnacho, Bruno,Yoro, Dorgu, Martinez and Maz are the only few players we can trust for next season and hope we can bring in 4/5 first team players to get going.
It's not the Scouts that buy players. If they weren't ignored so much we'd have a better record.
He's a good player is Ugarte and will get better.
Nobody's expecting him to be Pirlo. But if you wanna play out from the back you need a #6 who is actually comfortable on the ball and start attacks. Think Nemanja Matic/Fabinho. They were no Pirlo/Xavi. They didnt need to be. But they were twice as good on the ball compared to Ugarte.
Ugarte's not a bad player. He''s a trier, so people will like him. But you have to be blind to not realise having him in midfield is a big reason why we keep passing it sideways and never get the ball to our forwards.
What was that talk between him and Tarkowski about?
He's not the only player in that midfield.
Probably related to Young performing a 9.85 for the 'penalty'
So he wins incredible amount but exposes us a lot in the same time, how does that work? And yes, his 1st season and not having a different midfield partner every time is indeed relevant.
Its incredible really, one of better players if not one of very few decent ones this season and he gets the flak for both defensive work and not being good on the ball.
To be fair he does have a tendency for unnecessarily rash challenges which will eventually burn us if he doesn't cut it out and he is too safe on the ball but he is one of the least problems in the team as far as i'm concerned. In fact, I don't even see him as a problem at all.
As with most players in this squad, he is being asked to do a job that he is not suited to so you can't really put the blame on him. On the whole, I love the steel that he brings to the team and he does have tidy feet for a DM and wins a lot of ground duels too which are always valuable. He just needs good ball playing partners next to him and his value will increase.
As with most players in this squad, he is being asked to do a job that he is not suited to so you can't really put the blame on him. On the whole, I love the steel that he brings to the team and he does have tidy feet for a DM and wins a lot of ground duels too which are always valuable. He just needs good ball playing partners next to him and his value will increase.
He does need to move the ball quicker. Less touches. Bring more pace to our game with the ball.
This can be said of most of our players though but its a basic aspect of football if you want to play at a higher tempo.
This can be said of most of our players though but its a basic aspect of football if you want to play at a higher tempo.
Wasnt Maguire the one who hold on to him for a split second?
Good thing is Amorim is aware of it, in one of his interviews few years back he said Ugarte is very good at breaking the play but Morten Hjulmand could take ball more forward compare to Ugarte.
Yeah but i imagine Ugarte being more of a voice to point it out to his captain that his player was blatantly cheating.
MOTD on Saturday night all agreed it was a penalty, any other team in the league and guarantee it would have been called a dive.
Not sure where I stand with him if I'm going to be honest. On one hand, I love how tenacious and combative he is. His fighting spirit and no messing around is exactly what we've missed in the team for years, and we are lucky to have him in that sense. On the other hand, I think he is quite a limited player, even though he is doing a great job at doing what he was bought to do, so can't really complain about that. He is a tackling machine and reads the game brilliantly. It has been mentioned here, but he isn't very progressive with the ball at his feet and he dwells on the ball a bit too much for a midfielder for my liking. I'm glad we have him, and he will probably improve as he is still very young and it is his first season in the Premier League, but he probably isn't the difference maker that is going to take us to the top again. Hopefully he will prove me wrong, and turn into Keane.
We cant afford passengers/weak links in buildup.
I think he's least of our problems right now. As I said, its so strange one of the few players who has been performing is getting so much criticism.
What you're upset he doesn't provide is about the limitations of the players he's paired with. He does what he was purchased to do very well and he's tidy in possession without being super creative or progressive.
That should inform our future purchases.
Because our problems was obvious for years we lacked a good progressive midfielder but we went and wasted so much time and money on him, and then to see fans constantly lap him up because he does clatters into players while I have to watch Southampton's midfield run rings around him
I don't think he reads the game as brilliantly as it seems, whilst he has a unreal engine and can run for days I've seen him run in/break the shape/dive in countless times and the opposition team pass around him like they're playing against some kids. I'm sorry I just can't really rate a midfielder so limited especially when you look at the midfield of almost every top 10 team none of them start a midfielder with such a small arsenal like Ugarte's
Ehh, not so strange. McTominay was also performing last season, so was AWB. But we binned them because we knew they were limited footballers.
Ugarte should definitely be kept though. But our problems with buildup and progression will remain till we atleast surround him with players that hide his deficiencies, like all limited players.
A lot of people told me during the summer that a pure defensive #6 is exactly what we need to shore up our defence and "unlock" Mainoo. Its never that simple.
Yeah, Mainoo never got unlocked, he has problems in build up play too. It was all about Ugarte doing the dirty work so Mainoo can shine but Mainoo rarely shined this year. But expecting such a young player to be focal point of the team is a problem itself which is not new at United unfortunately.
Ugarte is my current favorite player in the team. Against Everton, those around him were unhelpful, to say the least, and he still managed to launch some attacks and to slow down some of the Everton attacks. His tackling is often desperate and reckless, though, and he was lucky to escape a yellow (I think he escaped, anyway).
We cant afford it in pressing and defending either. What he might lack in buildup he covers for other players without the ball
Granted that I'm a hater but to me he is the Uruguayan Mohamed Sissoko.
But I guess we can in pressing and defending then?
Until he has people around him who make space to receive a pass or can control a ball fired into the, I’ll hold judgement on whether he can do that role for us.
He can do everything else which is good enough for me anyway.
Think him and Zubimendi together could be v good
We have a non existent midfield when this guy doesn’t play.
He's our only genuine midfielder right now. Mainoo's struggling for form and Collyer is raw, both injured right now anyway. The rest can barely jog let alone run.
He's doing his best. The least of our worries.
Agree completely. Just surprising some of the criticism he’s getting in here. Mental. We’d be fecked without him.
He is one of the best midfielders off the ball.
And he is not as bad on the ball as people are making him out to be. Both, the goal he scored and the assist he provided show his quality. I have also seen him dink a few cross field balls which were reminiscent of Scholes.
Fans have to stop hating on any player we have. Then these players go to other clubs and we suddenly think they are top class.
And he is not as bad on the ball as people are making him out to be. Both, the goal he scored and the assist he provided show his quality. I have also seen him dink a few cross field balls which were reminiscent of Scholes.
Fans have to stop hating on any player we have. Then these players go to other clubs and we suddenly think they are top class.
He's great as a number 6 and does his job well. Given how young he is and still adapting to the PL in a team that has no structure or style of play and no stable midfield partner, it's hardly surprising that there are some minor gaps.
Also think we've seen enough to suggest that he does have a creative element to his game and I'm sure that'll come to the fore more often once we have a proper DLP no. 8 next to him.
Also think we've seen enough to suggest that he does have a creative element to his game and I'm sure that'll come to the fore more often once we have a proper DLP no. 8 next to him.
They both excel as the deepest midfielder so think that would be suboptimal for at least one of them.
Seems clear Ugarte should be used as the 6 in a deep midfield pair. Don't think he provided much at all against Everton in the altered shape in a right-sided midfield role, compounded by Dalot's contributions down that wing.
Nobody said that. Its not either or.
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Love the guy. Fills the 'energetic shithouse' hole that Ander Herrera left in my heart.
At the end of the season, he will rip his mask off and it will turn out that he was Herrera this whole time.
Gets through a massive amount of work every game, even if it ain't always pretty.