But he wants a new challenge and wants to play for a new club. So why waste time on him?
Manchester United view sidelining Marcus Rashford as key to cultural reboot
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But he wants a new challenge and wants to play for a new club. So why waste time on him?
Because we’re still paying him a fortune, he’s capable of scoring a goal every now and then and he’s going nowhere until the next transfer window (at the earliest)?
He's making sure Rashford is seen as the instigator of the move away.
Improving Marcus is the same as getting him to do the work in training and in games that Rueben and the rest of the team needs
I think it would be a problem, if a new manager had given up on Rashford after so little time in the club.
He's not really, I think he just said that to tip the scales the clubs way when negotiating with his new club. He also said, he and the club will deal with him when the time comes.
I don't see any way back for Rashford. Gladly.
Because he had a good season a few years ago.
I think he needs the right club to try and get him out of his shell again. Arsenal might be a good fit
For several years the eye of Gondor has been looking at Rashford and wanting him sold. Now it seems a possibility, that eye of Gondor is turning in. It seems that the narrative is now changing to Rashford is worth keeping and no trouble at all
I'd rather him up top than zirkzee right now, assuming he will do what the coach is asking. If we can't sell him and he can play his way to the shop window, and he starts training well, why isolate him?
You'd have to ask someone inside the club who has the full story. Presumably there is a good reason for his exclusion from the squad
Sell him for underperforming. This whole culture reset by selling a certain player is bs. Same bs was said in Rooneys last years then Pogba.
Last year we had Sancho in a bad situation, and now we have Rashford. But this is so much more sad. Rashford has been in the club for 19 years. I really hate to see him in this situation where it seems like he somehow has lost his motivation.
I'd much rather Rashford knuckled down and proved his worth, but it seems he's no interest in doing that now.
Last year ETH did battle with Sancho. I’m hoping Amorim handles things better with Rashford.
If nothing else, keeping Rashford out of the squad reduces his sell on value.
Like any job, people can lose motivation from being in a job so long. There are very few one club players these days. If it’s time to move him on, then let’s crack on and get a replacement lined up
If he's not training well enough to be picked for the match day squad then there is no point in him being at the club. The present situation is in neither his nor the club's interest.
Sounds like you've been watching too many Peter Jackson movies
Outside of a few words in interviews, that are unavoidable, we're not wasting time on him. He's not even in the squads.
Or.. we put them on a pedestal and overate. It is trully their level.
Actually, AWB should have been the question, a resounding NO should have been the answer.
But tell me, where was Rashford when the West Fold fell!?
I think Amorim is just giving Rashford an out to return to the fold, by blaming his people. In reality, he who pays the piper calls the tune.
Rashford's people: Go do an interview to show that you are being unfairly treated.
Rashford: No, I want to put in extra training, especially on my finishing because the team is struggling in that area and needs me.
Rashford's people: You should do the interview instead.
Rashford: You are all fired.
But no.
Rashford's people: Go do an interview to show that you are being unfairly treated.
Rashford: No, I want to put in extra training, especially on my finishing because the team is struggling in that area and needs me.
Rashford's people: You should do the interview instead.
Rashford: You are all fired.
But no.
Its a bit uncomfortable now that he's constantly putting out PR to counteract Amorim.
The old mantra was that one person is not bigger than the club. The club needs to jump on this and get rid ASAP just because of his behaviour recently.
The old mantra was that one person is not bigger than the club. The club needs to jump on this and get rid ASAP just because of his behaviour recently.
Think it would be wise to move him on. Amorin persisting with him would be making the same makes as his predecessors. I just don't hink Marcus has the right mentality to be the top guy at such a big club.
He has no worth to us, as proven by his entire career bar one season.
If you are not good enough - you don't play. It's Manchester United. Not the u8 league.
That mantra can only be applied when everyone pulls in the same direction to ensure it's true.
Unfortunately fans are as much to blame for certain players getting too big for their boots. Even now after all this, there are small pockets of fans defending Rashford. When Ronaldo gave that disgraceful interview some sided with him. When Sancho was dropped for being a twat, some sided with him over the manager. Many fans sided with Martial and Pogba when Mourinho wanted rid due to them being the wrong type of character for a winning team.
So yeah, if the fanbase don't want players being bigger than the club, stop treating them as if they are.
I still think it's an unrealistic expectation that he turns down that huge pay rise. And while I think there is a useful lesson for the vast majority of people to learn from your experience, unless you work in a field where most are retired by 35 and where your career could be ended in a day because someone fell down on your leg funnily and you can no longer run, it's not a comparable scenario.
A big aside, but I love the proper use of adverb there!
Players can be judged from the people surrounding them. For example Paul Scholes didn't even had an agent while Wes Brown allowed Roy Keane (our captain at the time) to negotiate his first major contract with SAF on his behalf. None of these players need to work after their career is over but its evident what these players true intentions were and it wasn't to play for Real Madrid on 300k a week. On the other side of the spectrum you had the likes of Vieri, Pogba and Ibra who used the late Mino Raiola as their agent. Players surround themselves with these sort of agents with the sole reason to squeeze as much money out of their career with no care in the world of leaving a legacy behind. Both have valid arguments in place. As Vieri said, he squeezed as much money out of every club possible because once he wasn't a 30 goal a season player no one would give a feck about him anymore. On the other hand Vieri is nowadays an Italian version of Howson/Goldbridge while Maldini is revered as a football icon. You make your bed and you lie into it.
The problem with the modern player is that they want the best of all worlds. They want as much money as possible but they also want the safety net provided to players who had placed the club ahead of financial gain. That's why PR had become a thing were in the past it was mostly non existent. These people will spin anything, leak anything and do anything to protect their clients and to keep them in a good light. Its within their rights to do so as well.
Its also within our rights as fans to be less naive and to expect that high standards are kept and maintained. We are the gatekeepers of the club, the ones who will be there irrespective if we're winning the treble every other year or we're stuck in 3rd division. It's not ok for players to jog on the pitch on 360k a week or to not be available for months upon months for years irrespective of what the player/club/media say. Shit happens and players leave/retire because of it. We're the biggest club in the world, not a hospital, not a nursery for old players, we're a football club.
I was deeply saddened that tickets have gone up so much. However I hope that fans learn from this as well. That money is being taken away so that the club can afford paying Rashford silly money to jog on the pitch and for Shaw to spend months in the treatment room only to turn up for england. Thus it's within our interest to expect the club to be ruthless and to be run efficiently cause we are the one paying for such mistakes.
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I am pretty sure it wasn't down to us not paying him enough for him to retire comfortably for the rest of his life. The guy is estimated to have made around 2.6m a year during his football career
Here it is
https://onefootball.com/en/news/wes-brown-why-did-former-man-utd-star-go-bankrupt-37363426
Most of his money disappeared in bad property deals," revealed the source. "He overpaid on the farm that Leanne lives in. He spent something like £6m or £7m to buy that. They have tried to sell it but haven’t managed to, even after lowering the price to £4.75m. Any money left is tied up in the farm.
"A previous property of theirs was once listed at £4.5m but took seven years to sell, finally going for £2.4m - almost half price."
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In a cave in the Misty Mountains, my precious.
Why would you do this Pogue....come in here with a reasonable take when you could scream at the manager and Rashford!!!
With all the drama I've only recently begun to reflect on how bizarre the Henry Winter 'interview' is... it's not even an article just a solitary (extremely long) tweet written by an unemployed journalist. It's such an unusual choice of PR briefing, but maybe he was the only one willing to act as such a blatant mouthpiece.
You figured it out. Good job.
If Amorim truly believes that Rashford can play a role here, he will not last long.
Without taking into account all the media things etc, Rashford is a very average player paid as a WC one. He has no place in a team that wants to compete. Only as a squad player with low wages.
Without taking into account all the media things etc, Rashford is a very average player paid as a WC one. He has no place in a team that wants to compete. Only as a squad player with low wages.