We may well be after him, the media has no clue who we're talking to, so the papers are just printing whatever daft theory they can think of.
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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We may well be after him, the media has no clue who we're talking to, so the papers are just printing whatever daft theory they can think of.
Yep. Persuading players to join needs a charm offensive, not browbeat them into signing.
It really feels like the club are doing things on the cheap. Taking risks on people who are not qualified for the role. I've never been as worried at the direction of the club. It's incredible how badly run we are, the Glazers are so clueless when it comes to United. We should be getting someone who has a record of identifying the best young talent. I'm not sure I want to know what's going on behind the scenes, really sounds like they are making it up as they go along. Never has there been more uncertainty with a squad going into a Summer.
I would not mind Rooney involved with the clubs twitter account, or social media in general.
At this point does anyone really care, it’s either going to be someone internal or an ex player. If that’s all we do then we’re not really any better off and it’s still all the same people scouting, negotiating and making the decisions with input from Ole and the new addition.
We’re not getting anyone with any pedigree and it will still be a fairly basic structure lacking in competence.
We’re not getting anyone with any pedigree and it will still be a fairly basic structure lacking in competence.
Cheap isn't the word that I would use because we are not talking about things that actually cost a lot, we are in the hundred of thousands per year at best. But this club and this board are risk averse, verging on proper cowardice, every single decision is motivated by fear to fail which ironically leads to failure, just look at the managers that we hired from Moyes to Mourinho and then when Ole has good results they jump on it instead of giving a good thought at other alternatives.
Na.It sounds good to hear Rio being linked to the job but this role involves lot of Business skills and mostly continental contacts too.
Luis Campos comes across a decent option and we can earth some raw talent not only from Europe but Brazil and other south American countries
Luis Campos comes across a decent option and we can earth some raw talent not only from Europe but Brazil and other south American countries
You can't compare this situation to the manager position. Ole came in as a caretaker and done a great job with a limited bunch, it was never going to be an overnight thing fixing the mentality after years of damage. People are deluded if they think Zidane or Poch would sort this team out in a Summer too. At least Ole had experience managing at different levels, what does Rio honestly know about identifying young players, insanity.
Hiring former favourites en masse is all well and good... but who does Ed think the fans will turn on if/when it all goes to pot? Rio? Ole? ShortsMcGee? Or some JPMorgan money man who has basically f**cked up every decision he's made at the club that isn't related to sponsorship.
I don't really follow you here, I'm talking about the club tendency to be risk averse, this has nothing to do with Ole's job as the caretaker but the way the board seems to act and react.
I don't really see the huge issue with a director of football being an ex-United player. I find it weird how fans here almost seem to think it's a bad way of doing things... yet a club like Ajax who are looked at as a great model of a well run football club do it all the time.
Because they already have a functioning structure in place. We do not.
I was asking a question not making comparisons! But both are inexperienced
If we are going to appoint a former player, then I wouldn't say no to Rio.
The boards decision to be reactionary has been evident for years, poor planning. I agree, the decision to bring Rio and Fletcher in isn't even reactionary it's baffling.
Luis Campos is going elsewhere.
To be honest, you can't call his sponsorship's particularly impressive. Folks are much too favorable about that. You can call any company in the world and say, "I'm the CEO of Manchester United. Id like to discuss sponsorships", and you'll have yourself a meeting at the least. The premier league as a whole brings in $1.4 billion from sponsors, compared to say La Liga with $780 million. United are in fact first and generate $308 million a year while second place Barcelona generate $291 million, not that far off. If anything, Barcas is more impressive an achievement considering the global commercial appeal, the Premier League is a runaway leader. And Manchester United is the most successful club in that league and certainly the most recognizable brand there of the last 20 years.
So with that perspective, I'd say Ed's done barely par for the course with our deals. Kind of like this ambition for 4th place. Just enough to rest on your laurels.
This is getting surreal. If you are creating an entirely new role at an organisation, then wouldn’t the obvious step be to appoint someone who has previously (successfully) performed the same role at one of your peers?
I get the impression United will shortly be joining Blockbuster and Nokia as one of those cautionary tales everyone smirks at in business training courses.
I get the impression United will shortly be joining Blockbuster and Nokia as one of those cautionary tales everyone smirks at in business training courses.
Did someone say season ticket renewal time?
Chelsea, Arsenal or Roma?
That and fans are again starting to show tendencies of displeasure towards owners/Woodward. Better get some "good will protection" fast.
I find it funny people think we are doing it on the cheap yet we pay a dude 400k a week allegedly. We’re hardly cheap. Just stupid.
For some reason in this forum, if you were a slightly above average player, you're shit in life at everything. I thought we'd moved past the stereotype of footballers being stupid but I guess not...
Not only Ajax, Bayern are surrounded by ex players across the board and management structure.
Personally, if you're a player coming into a meeting at United to discuss the move who do you want to meet? Rio Ferdinand or Ed Woodward? Rio won't be discussing contracts, he'll be convincing players to join and getting a feel for their character and if they'll make it at United. I'd say he's 100% more qualified than Ed to do that stuff.
Caf should very seriously consider stickying about ten or so posts like this out of the many that posters have put up over the past few years. There's still enough of the 'Woody's a financial genius' rolling around that it seems the forum would be well-served by having the readership properly informed on the 'financial wizardry' that actually isn't.
And someone that have previously created/built the structure in which this new role operates in.
If i wanted to build a house, i would certainly give the job to someone that has experience in building houses, not someone that has only lived in a house.
If Rio is the kind of candidate we're looking for, the role won't have any real value.
I don't know mate sorry but I do know its not to us.
Woodward is the root of all problems. He’s the one probably calling the shots on that role so hiring Rio is hardly surprising.
For one you don’t need credentials to get United staff job, just to have been part of the club or being Scottish it seems..
I approve of Rio being appointed in this role. Can see many positives and reasons why we should select him. Worth the chance. He knows what it takes to become the cream of the crop and can help identify talent and develop a culture which is required by the club and the management.
Why not!
Why not!
Completely agree.
If I ran a multi billion pound brain surgery research company, I wouldn’t run it anywhere near as badly as Manchester United have been run by grown men with degrees.
The amount we’ve shat on failed projects alone would have paid Ronaldos release clause in his pomp.
Like, either try to sign the best or try to sign the next big thing. United sign average players and wonder why they’re average. It’s baffling how they’re so stupid. Doesn’t look like changing if the Trippier interest is solid.
Mind blowing that I am actually sat here reading that Rio Ferdinand is in the frame to be Director of Football at Manchester United. I can only laugh at this point.
The fans have been crying out for a DoF and Woodward is somehow contriving to ruin that as well.
The fans have been crying out for a DoF and Woodward is somehow contriving to ruin that as well.
Bayern is a poor example mate. Those ex players let the squad go rotten with so many aging players and many average ones. We shouldn't aspire to be like that all honestly.
Many ex players rule football clubs decisions with ideas that were viable in their time but not applicable any longer in modern day football imo. A DoF should be someone who understands modern football and current business quite well, which is something fair to doubt in any ex player that might try just to force a new Fergie era with ideas from this era that will end up failing in the current days.
I like Rio, he's one of the former players I wanted to see back at the club. But ideally he would come and work with someone who has experience and someone with no ties to the club.
I reckon Fergie is involved in all this though.
I reckon Fergie is involved in all this though.
Gaz said that he wouldn't want it as we need the best for the job and he'll feel to be out depth.
So we went for Rio.
Whether its a good idea or not, its better than what we have at the moment. Lets give it a chance before we slag it off....if it happens
this is it really. Rio now a days just seems like another egotistical bellend - which just shows how it’s not always on the players but the manager to get them in check. He turned up in a white suit for feck sake, but he was an amazing professional (bar a couple of things...) that we can only dream of players like Pogba behaving like. Fergie for you. Anyway, I’d rather get some football genius in. Someone who can identify the problems down to a T and get the right player(s) in.
IS Rio willing to delve and watch games from the Belgian Second Division to unearth hidden talents? Is he willing to take time away from his family, meeting with potential signings, scouting games, developing contacts in other leagues to find players? I don't see it. Only recently he said he would not be willing to go into management because it would mean spending too much time away from his family.
Woodward's search for DoF and the managers is like Moyes'es search for new players. So uninspiring. I like Rio though, he is certainly better than the earlier rumours of Evra, Phelan or Scholes (
Behave he's thick as pig shit, this is the guy who had been at Old Trafford for years and was doing a documentary about his time at United, he was being filmed in his car on the route he took from his home to the training ground every single morning and yet he twice managed to get lost, and intelligent people don't forget to take a drug test.
The main man himself.
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