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Paul Mitchell? (who by the way, moved to another country after his playing career......).
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Paul Mitchell? (who by the way, moved to another country after his playing career......).
I don’t get it..
In place before NEXT season?
So we’re basically just resigned to another Summer of half arsed Woodward signings then?
Why wasn’t someone put in place when Solskjaer was hired?
In place before NEXT season?
So we’re basically just resigned to another Summer of half arsed Woodward signings then?
Why wasn’t someone put in place when Solskjaer was hired?
Because that someone need to exist at that moment?
Some papers were reporting yesterday it is expected that Phelan will be appointed this week.
I’m sure there were plenty of options.
Doesn’t seem the most obvious choice but then again wasn’t Overmars a similarly romantic type choice at Ajax ? If he can succeed then, on that basis, there’s no reason why Rio shouldn’t.
It is weird how people moan about the same old faces on the managerial merry go round but then when you hear of a potentially fresh and exciting appointment like this it’s wwwhhhooaahhh !!!
I thought we were this buccaneering, forward thinking club always ready to blood new talent and give our own a genuine chance to follow in the footsteps of legends ? Or is that only on the pitch ?
It is weird how people moan about the same old faces on the managerial merry go round but then when you hear of a potentially fresh and exciting appointment like this it’s wwwhhhooaahhh !!!
I thought we were this buccaneering, forward thinking club always ready to blood new talent and give our own a genuine chance to follow in the footsteps of legends ? Or is that only on the pitch ?
I actually doubt that there were plenty of good options in the middle of the season, most decent executive would finish the current season with their clubs make sure to finish what they started and leave at the end of summer or in September. Basically like what happened with Marotta. Also when I look at PSG or Lyon for example, they both struggled to find someone, Monaco are still looking for someone after quickly sacking Emenalo.
That's on the pitch.
Off the pitch, the only successes in the club's history have come while there were world class, higly-experienced individuals at the helm.
Phelan, Fletcher, Ferdinand. All have given a lot to the club, Ferdinand is a club legend, and maybe could work but just feels to me that Woodward wants a yes man. Surely there is an experienced and successful technical director out there that would want the job? I really fear for this club moving forward with Woodward, I really do.
Rio is probably the best link we’ve had to date. It really is a bit of a shambles though.
Patrick Kluivert could be the man as I am sure our French friends on here can attest to.
(yeah, I'm having a laugh)
The problem is that I don't really have a lot of examples of that type of hiring for anyone, it's generally a young candidate or someone with little previous experience. City are the only example that comes to mind and worked with Begiristain.
I know there's a lot of clamouring for Paul Mitchell, and this in no way besmirches his credentials for the role, but have you seen his darn Linkedin page?
It reads like a soon-to-be-graduate going for his first job post uni!
It reads like a soon-to-be-graduate going for his first job post uni!
Our last two managers fit that profile and largely thanks to those two we’ve got one of the most inept looking United sides in the past 30-35 years and with a shed load of unwanted players on sky high wages.
Do you think Rio would really be a yes man? I'm not so sure about that.
Did Paul Mitchell spend a career at Juventus, Fulham (who paid well at the time and Manchester United. Let’s just say I’m sure VDS doesn’t have a mortgage mate.
I think United should look long and hard at what they want there strategy to be and once that’s decided pick the right candidates for that. City decided to go the Barca route and got the Barca men. Maybe United have looked over at Ajax who have the same principles youth wise as us and have gone that route. Hence the current candidates. Paul Mitchell does sound like a very good choice though if I was choosing.
Not sure what your point is.
Experienced candidate with a good CV did an average/poor job as manager - we should therefore only hire inexperienced candidates with shite CVs at all levels of the club, including DoF?
This is plainly nonsense.
We should hire the best, and most qualified candidate we can get our hands on.
Sporting director is a very broad term, I'm starting to fear we'll appoint someone and he'll have no more power than Ole does in terms of going against Woodward.
How thick must the Glazers be to have watched this past five years of awfulness and not once question Woodward.
How thick must the Glazers be to have watched this past five years of awfulness and not once question Woodward.
Could we look at bringing in a new backroom team and not just a DoF? Is this job too big for just one person.
What's the setup at other clubs such as Bayern, Barca and Ajax?
What's the setup at other clubs such as Bayern, Barca and Ajax?
Let me reassure you, no one in the club outside of the owners will be above the CEO.
They all have numerous people with extensive football experience/knowledge working in executive roles. We have literally nobody. Not a single member of our board had any experience working at any football club, prior to being appointed to the board.
Do you mean Scholes ?
Rio Ferdinand would be a fecking disaster
With respect to him, great defender and carries himself well, but he’s clearly a bit thick and what the hell does he know about being a director of football? What qualifies him for the role at one of the biggest clubs in world football?
With respect to him, great defender and carries himself well, but he’s clearly a bit thick and what the hell does he know about being a director of football? What qualifies him for the role at one of the biggest clubs in world football?
Barcelona have the same type of executive board than united, there isn't a single football man in it. The highest football man is Pep Segura and he is outside of the board.
It’s like Woody is just trying to appease the fans lately.
Bring in Ole - check
Bring in SAF right hand man and the fans will believe he’ll bring back Fergies style of play- check
Hire a DOF - tell sky sports to throw out Rio’s name he’s knows Utd inside out - check
Bring in Ole - check
Bring in SAF right hand man and the fans will believe he’ll bring back Fergies style of play- check
Hire a DOF - tell sky sports to throw out Rio’s name he’s knows Utd inside out - check
How do you know that? He may have interviewed very well for the role and have lots of ideas. Quite easy to just label him thick and inexperienced.
Ferdinand as DoF is pretty uninspiring, I daresay even a very poor choice. It's not meant to be a ceremonial position, or at least it isn't at other clubs.
Maybe not a yes man but I would imagine he would still be answering to Woodward and I would suspect Woodward / Glazer final sign off on anything would still handicap the club. They haven't a clue, really depressing at the moment. Maybe I'm being dramatic but I think the club is destined to Arsenal around the fourth spot until we have new ownership and Woodward is gone. Woodward hasn't got the experience to run a corner shop let alone a big football club.
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Well at least Paul Mitchell gets a mention in that article as still being under consideration. I saw the other day about Fletch doing it but alongside someone else. Could Rio and Mitchell do that or am I just being totally mad.
Don't think you are being dramatic at all. Most of us are seriously worried where the club is heading. Some just have their heads in the sand thinking everything will be fine. Why would any world class player want to come to this club? It is a complete shambles.
How about a Rio/Vidic double act? Rio can flit around networking, being the mouthpiece for the duo. Vidic can do all the boring paperwork stuff plus scare the shit out of Ed if he refuses to play ball
Seriously, I think the club should interview Jordi Cryuff
Seriously, I think the club should interview Jordi Cryuff
It's hard (to impossible) to predict if a certain person will be a successful DoF based on their public persona, but Rio really? Never mind his complete lack of experience in this field, he's not even a decent pundit or I dunno a successful businesses man? His whole shtick seems to be that he's competitive and down with the kids. Just doesn't seem like some with long term vision and expertise we need.
I'm going to assume the whole thing is bollocks.
I'm going to assume the whole thing is bollocks.
Definitely will be answerable to Woodward, at the end of the day there needs to be a management structure in place. Its just how much autonomy the DOF is given in his role. It needs to be close to total control once the vision and budget are agreed and its not clear if Woodward would give this up.
But they do have Segura, Abidal and Ramon Planes running the football side of the club, all of whom had extensive football experience prior to being appointed to those roles. Who is the equivalent at United?
Why do you constantly post these? Are you just looking for attention? Every single time the prices change and there’s always an extra special one in there which is hilariously unrealistic.
This is just odd if true. He has no experience in that role at a top level. We need someone with contacts with other clubs.
Plus he's our assistant coach, we are just moving a problem rather than dealing with one.
He can barely string a sentence together when he's a pundit.
He has absolutely no experience of being a director of football.
Surely it's quite easy to label him both.
We are just going through names now. How long until Fred the Red is linked with the role?
The footballer or the bloke in a fluffy suit?
I like football as a business. You really don’t need to qualify, you just need a bit of fame. What does Rio know about being director of football? This is a joke. Seems like OT isn’t taking anything seriously these days.
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