I mean I don't want him axed. He can stay but just isolate him from football side. He's good at his job in generating money. Keep him at it and get someone else to manage the footballing part of the club.
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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I mean I don't want him axed. He can stay but just isolate him from football side. He's good at his job in generating money. Keep him at it and get someone else to manage the footballing part of the club.
fecking Caulker played as an attacking player under Klopp. Henderson ,Milner and Wijnaldum is so good at beating the press and yet Pogba,Herrera,Fred cannot do it ? Give me a break !
Even if we were to appoint a DoF, i don't think Woodward would give full authority over the footballing part of this corporation to the DoF... But i hope i am wrong.
Really, do people really think that?
You're right and we all know that. We're just talking about what should be done.
Tractor sponsor loving idiot, can't wait till he's out too
The little round-headed tw@t makes my blood boil. The sight of his stupid little round, balding head in the stands and the phrases "we can do things no other club can in the market" and "an adult Disneyworld" ringing in my head makes me sick.
My respect for this cnut would go up so much If he did the right thing for this football club and is to sack that dinosaur tonight
This buffoon will dither around waiting till top 4 is impossible. Anyone with a footballing brain can tell its the point of no return but no. Not woodward. Remember how much chances he gave LVG. I dont expect Jose to be sacked. I can only pray he is sacked. If that blood sucking leech and his bosses the Glazers had any sense they would've had a plan for another manager in place from the start of the season. Instead we have been dithering on signing a 'technical director' for well over a year. They sit around with their little d**ks in their hands and do nothing. Technical director is needed now. Hire an interim manager. And hire a permanent one in the summer.
The breaking of the wage structure has been and is a critical element in the club's struggles. If there was one thing an incoming manager could do to fix us, I'd argue that in a pick-your-poison situation, fixing the wage structure would be first on the block.
Also, his 'financial wizardry/done well on the commercial side' boils down to taking money from people throwing it at him in a rabid desire to be associated with 'the brand'.
Not to diminish it per se - as there is nothing easy about anything in life - and we'd be in a much worse situation without it, but the 'excellent' job he's done there is not going to be exactly hard for someone good with numbers. TBF, the real question is whether he's capable of that same in the longer term, AKA during a true rebuilding phase.
Best case scenario, he's:
a) smart enough to realize the chance for a seamless transition - while ambitious and a good target - is passed and the club needs to take a deep breath and accept that running headfirst into a brick wall is damaging the image and better to join the pack and look longer term. The rise back to the top can absolutely be immediate, but to continually try and force it creates an air of desperation which is very negative and permeates through the organization.
b) actually good enough at the financial side of things to keep this level of sponsorship going regardless of circumstance.
Worst case scenario he really was only good at parlaying the chance of continued success into these speculative windfalls and once those expire he's incapable of that level of acumen.
Realistically, however, the signs are overwhelmingly not encouraging.
What he actually looks like, from 'watch this space' to the Fabregas bids etc, is an inferiority-complex driven loser granted the opportunity to 'win' through circumstance - in this case, being good with numbers - and desperate to overcompensate (or in the club's case, overpay) to 'become' a winner.
Which is a bit technical but it's what everyone is sensing in a roundabout fashion with all the posts about him.
The club would benefit immensely for someone in his position to have the capacity to do some soul-searching and to adjust accordingly.
It's not easy for someone in that position to cede power to a DOF; what if that appointee fails? What if A, what if B, what if C and so on? If the appointee succeeds, it highlights his own failure. If the appointee succeeds, he then must be able to graciously deflect any praise onto that person and continue to move forward.
It's a murky situation for him, footballing-wise. Ultimately it comes down to his ego, and the choice he makes can and will filter on down through the organization. Can his ego handle losing ground to the investors while gaining ground with the playing/coaching staff? Is he capable of grasping such tradeoffs and how they function?
They did, until Mourinho said it would be a tough season with these players and started the season with Bailly and Lindelof at CB instead of our pairing that did well last season Smalling and Jones.
Then we changed our formation to have a midfielder drop in as a 3rd CB with Ander first, then Fellaini.
Its Mourinho's fiddling and pulling at the threads that saw our defense fall apart.
Don’t feel sorry for me. I’m right here, just as I have been through the entirety of this debacle of a managerial tenure.
When we sack Mourinho and bring in a bloke that gets teams scoring more than a goal or two a game, then we’ll see better results.
We were good as a team defensivley.
Smalling I agree was unlucky to be dropped but generally we were good at the back last year because our team protected them. The moment Mourinho wants to play expansive football we came unstuck. None of our centre halves are good enough on the 1v1 or building up from the back to push up the pitch.
Hence why he wanted a new CB.
I can't defend him on signing Lindelof though, he's shocking.
How long of Mourinho not being sacked before Woodwards job becomes at risk? Yes he's doing well on the financials but we're already on course to miss out on the CL for 4th time in 6 seasons, which comes at a financial cost for us.
Play expansive football? We've been even more negative this season.
And no our defense was regularly exposed. Thats why Smalling had one of the highest shots blocked in the league for a CB, and De Gea made the most saves. The team had a good defensive record in spite of all the attacks and shots flying in, because those 2 players bailed us out.
Good evening Mr Football genius
That’s too kind. It didn’t take a genius to spot the trajectory this shambles was heading under Mourinho.
He can win some respect by getting rid of Mourinho, then sidelining himself from finding a replacement.
If that means using Carrick as an interim then fine. Ask Carrick if he wants Meulenstein or Phelan back to help out with no pressure at all.
That should improve morale and performance enough to steady things. Then Woodward should just hang around until a new structure is in place.
We need to look at a long term replacement and getting things right, not the biggest name out there.
If he did that then he would grudgingly earn some respect. Sadly I think he will try and save money or go "Tada" and go for Zidane as another big name signing.
If that means using Carrick as an interim then fine. Ask Carrick if he wants Meulenstein or Phelan back to help out with no pressure at all.
That should improve morale and performance enough to steady things. Then Woodward should just hang around until a new structure is in place.
We need to look at a long term replacement and getting things right, not the biggest name out there.
If he did that then he would grudgingly earn some respect. Sadly I think he will try and save money or go "Tada" and go for Zidane as another big name signing.
Yes because they are coached by miserable negative manager who chose 8-0-2 formation against West Ham. What a wonderful expansive football that he brings to the team.
Come on Ed, for once do your feckin job competently and get rid of Jose
Getting a DoF and fixing how this club is governed is an issue that is far more important for our long term future than who is the manager next week or which player is to blame.
Agree. It all starts from there.
What worries me is that it looks like we’ve spent a bucket of money and still need to replace most of the squad.
Maybe a worst case scenario but Pogba and martial leave as they are unsettled. De gea finally moves on to Spain. That leaves us needing to spend top fees on 3 positions + the dead wood we already have. It’s going to run into the 100s of millions.
Maybe a worst case scenario but Pogba and martial leave as they are unsettled. De gea finally moves on to Spain. That leaves us needing to spend top fees on 3 positions + the dead wood we already have. It’s going to run into the 100s of millions.
Fantastic post mate. Pretty much sums up my ramblings about the guy, but better put! I usually get too angry when I discuss this guy because I see him as a vulture that funnels money earnt through legendary effort by people like Sir Alex, straight into the pockets of the Glazers. Then hides behind other people when the shit hits the fan.
I have myself said that his fanfare for his sponsorships is probably a bit OTT given that these are companies approaching us with money. When you just look at the names you start to think he takes anything that comes our way. I did recently read that they're trying to reign in the over saturation of the markets with better long term deals.
Another press briefing about a technical / DOF this week then after a loss, as usual.
Exactly how I feel mate.
So this guy Woodward is gonna let things reach unsalvageable level a third time in a row before he acts. Surely that points to utter incompetence.
It's especially baffling when in all these cases anyone with any amount of brains cells could see that we were heading straight into the ravines, yet Ed let things become as bad as they could possibly get before acting.
His indecisiveness does my head in.
It's especially baffling when in all these cases anyone with any amount of brains cells could see that we were heading straight into the ravines, yet Ed let things become as bad as they could possibly get before acting.
His indecisiveness does my head in.
Marotta leaving Juve role.
I doubt it has anything to do with us otherwise Di Marzio would have probably mentioned it. He's meant to have done an amazing job there though, if there's even a slim chance we should throw our hat into the ring.
Wonder if Zizou's name will be on the list of directors.
If it is true he is not going to FIGC (the Italian FA), I think Man Utd should definetely go for him at any cost, and try to bring Paratici alongside. With the budget you have, I have no doubts he would make a world class squad
@Invictus rates him highly.
Absolutely get him in. He's the best we can get.
Even though can't see Ed loving having all the control stripped from him tbh.
Even though can't see Ed loving having all the control stripped from him tbh.
Beppe's fantastic. Him being a possibility didn't really occur to me since he's been operating as the CEO of Juve and, well, I doubt Ed's going to give that up. I don't think this has anything to do with him coming here but it probably does take Paratici out of the running since this likely means some sort of bump up for him.
I think this is so important that the Glazers should step in and make the decision, and make Marotti report directly to them (and not to EW)
Well Woodward can focus on the commercial stuff while Beppe can restructure the footballing side which is what he did for Juve if I'm not wrong.
Where does this idea that he's some sort of egomaniac come from?
I agree 100%. Marotto at juve was the CEO, so had control on commercial and techical side, although big decisions (like Ronaldo's purchase) were approved by the owning Angelli family.
On the techical side he did a fantastic job, on the commercial side he did a very good jood for Italian team standard, but nowere near the results Man Utd got in that area. Splitting power between him on the technical side and EW on the commerial side, making both reporting directly to the Glazers would be a perfect fit in my opinion
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