Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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Woodward should be out the door right after Mourinho. He didn't support said manager in the offseason which is at least partly responsible for why we suck now. He should have replaced Mourinho then. He waited too long to replace LVG, ruining a possible UCL spot. He doesn't learn from his mistakes. Two summers in five years were utter failures in the transfer market after making his "we can do things no one else can" spiel.
 
golden_blunder said:
Jardim? He’s struggling right now

Get Bielsa from Leeds that would be fun
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Would be entertaining to say the least but I doubt he would want to join us right now as he seems to have a proper 'project' up at Leeds right now.
 
The real problem with mufc isn't the last 3 managers. It's the one who hired them.
Woodward is a liability and will cost the club in the long term much more the he can gain in the short term.
 
BlueHaze said:
How can anyone defend this clueless bastard? He gave Jose an extension in winter after he had done feck all for this club. It's now going to cost us 30m to sack him because of that. All of his 3 appointments have been a complete fiasco and people really need to understand Ed is one of the core issues leading to the embarrassing things we are witnessing.
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What makes you think this was his decision alone to give Mou an extension, dont you think the board also play a part. Next you are gonna tell me Woodward was at fault for hiring Moyes.
 
He's hired three managers who have not been rousing successes. He has presided over shambolic transfers and has allowed internal club politics to be splashed all over the papers to the detriment of the club. He carries as much blame as Jose for this.
 
It's a mess of his own making.

We're not going to finish in the CL Spots so surely Woodward will be relieved of his duties then.

I reckon for the 3 non CL finishes he has cost United more money than he will have made.

The club or the "brand" as he will put it, is a shambles under him. An absolute shambles.

I think in 10 years time we'll see just what a mess this guy was for Manchester United, if you think it's bad now- just wait.
 
I have to disagree with most of what is on here. Ed hasn't done that much wrong.

Is sticking by a manager too long necessarily a bad thing? Not really. I'd be more annoyed if we were chopping and changing managers every year a la Watford/Everton. He's not really had a good enough reason to sack Mourinho until probably now (even after Spurs, it was probably too early).

As for him not being 'a football man', isn't that why we have a board? His job is to make money and the success of the football club is paramount to that. Are the likes of Bobby and Fergie are footballing men for starters. Yes, we could do with a DoF, but thats being sorted. Plus it's really not much different to the CEOs from some of the other clubs - Liverpool's CEO for example came from an IT/console gaming background. And everyone creams over how well run they are.

I don't see how you need to be a footballing person, or from a footballing background, to realise that a team who loses too many games needs a change of manager. Yes it's bad now, but don't believe that Ed will just pretend everythings fine and just count his money while this is all going on. He didn't do it with Moyes/LvG, and I can't see him doing it now.
 
CA1 said:
It's a mess of his own making.

We're not going to finish in the CL Spots so surely Woodward will be relieved of his duties then.

I reckon for the 3 non CL finishes he has cost United more money than he will have made.

The club or the "brand" as he will put it, is a shambles under him. An absolute shambles.

I think in 10 years time we'll see just what a mess this guy was for Manchester United, if you think it's bad now- just wait.
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lol no, commercially we have never been stronger. The Adidas deal is hit only when we don't make CL for 2 consecutive seasons, which has never happened. And even if it did, revenues would still be high enough for the Glazers to keep faith in Ed.
 
Tango80 said:
I have to disagree with most of what is on here. Ed hasn't done that much wrong.

Is sticking by a manager too long necessarily a bad thing? Not really. I'd be more annoyed if we were chopping and changing managers every year a la Watford/Everton. He's not really had a good enough reason to sack Mourinho until probably now (even after Spurs, it was probably too early).

As for him not being 'a football man', isn't that why we have a board? His job is to make money and the success of the football club is paramount to that. Are the likes of Bobby and Fergie are footballing men for starters. Yes, we could do with a DoF, but thats being sorted. Plus it's really not much different to the CEOs from some of the other clubs - Liverpool's CEO for example came from an IT/console gaming background. And everyone creams over how well run they are.

I don't see how you need to be a footballing person, or from a footballing background, to realise that a team who loses too many games needs a change of manager. Yes it's bad now, but don't believe that Ed will just pretend everythings fine and just count his money while this is all going on. He didn't do it with Moyes/LvG, and I can't see him doing it now.
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Woodward ended our season before it started by not backing the manager. We could all see this coming.

The 6 years he's been here the club has nosedived and only going one way.

He is a cancer to this football club.
 
Needs to grow balls and make a footballing decision, not a financial one.
 
Dick'Ed Woodward is an absolute chancer and has no clue in how to run a club. Fans need to start protesting at games. Yeah, we're at that stage lads.
 
Kapardin said:
lol no, commercially we have never been stronger. The Adidas deal is hit only when we don't make CL for 2 consecutive seasons, which has never happened. And even if it did, revenues would still be high enough for the Glazers to keep faith in Ed.
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All teams are making more money. It's not easy to sell United.

The club is diminising in front of our own eyes and the full knock on effect on the pitch is now. The financial effect will be further down the line when teams like Liverpool, City etc are making money at a quicker rate than us.

He's doing an awful, awful job.
 
TrueRed79 said:
Dick'Ed Woodward is an absolute chancer and has no clue in how to run a club. Fans need to start protesting at games. Yeah, we're at that stage lads.
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I was laughed at for saying this the day the window shut.

Now look. We've got several fans group mobilising against him.

The day he's carried out of this club will be one of the best days we've had in years.
 
If Mourinho isn’t sacked in the week then there is blame to be attributed towards Woodward and the board.
 
Kag said:
If Mourinho isn’t sacked in the week then there is blame to be attributed towards Woodward and the board.
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Ed Woodward thought this squad and our defence was enough to challenge for the title ffs.

He won't cotton on to us not finishing in the top 4 until about March. He knows nothing about football, he cannot anticipate what's coming.

Although, I'll repeat, a change of coach won't change much in the long term.
 
liamp said:
Of course Woodward is massively to blame, but he's the fecking CEO. We can fly the entire American Airlines fleet of airplanes over Old Trafford and it wouldn't change the opinion of the board. The manager or coach, comparatively speaking, is much more easily and likely to be replaced.
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In short, we are fecked.
 
CA1 said:
Ed Woodward thought this squad and our defence was enough to challenge for the title ffs.

He won't cotton on to us not finishing in the top 4 until about March. He knows nothing about football, he cannot anticipate what's coming.

Although, I'll repeat, a change of coach won't change much in the long term.
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A change of coach will do wonders to the team !
 
CA1 said:
Ed Woodward thought this squad and our defence was enough to challenge for the title ffs.

He won't cotton on to us not finishing in the top 4 until about March. He knows nothing about football, he cannot anticipate what's coming.

Although, I'll repeat, a change of coach won't change much in the long term.
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It is good enough, in my opinion.

A change of coach can change everything. It’s why Liverpool top the league with Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum in a midfield three and a bloke from Hull at left back. Because of Klopp and his attacking ideas.

Keep deluding yourself and hanging on to the idea that there’s more to this than hideous coaching. Chelsea were and still are evidence enough that a change of coach can alter things dramatically.
 
Kag said:
It is good enough, in my opinion.

A change of coach can change everything. It’s why Liverpool top the league with Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum in a midfield three and a bloke from Hull at left back. Because of Klopp and his attacking ideas.

Keep deluding yourself and hanging on to the idea that there’s more to this than hideous coaching. Chelsea were and still are evidence enough.
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If you really believe that's all this is then I honestly feel sorry for you because you're in for a tough few years. It's the hope that will kill you.
 
bond19821982 said:
A change of coach will do wonders to the team !
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Yep. Don't underestimate the effect having happy, confident players does to your team.

This is why I was against getting a new defender in the summer, it wouldn't have made a jot of difference. When all of your players aren't performing as they should, that's not from having weak areas in the squad.
 
CA1 said:
We said that after Moyes, after Van Gaal etc.

The players are average, we don't have the structure as a club anymore.
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Not really good examples, though. Moyes the epitome of negative football and LVG who was more interested to keep the ball than scoring.

Problem is we didn't have a plan and kept hiring managers who has different identities.
 
Tango80 said:
Yep. Don't underestimate the effect having happy, confident players does to your team.

This is why I was against getting a new defender in the summer, it wouldn't have made a jot of difference. When all of your players aren't performing as they should, that's not from having weak areas in the squad.
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Our players are closer to West Ham's level than City's.

There's only so much confidence can do.
 
bond19821982 said:
Not really good examples, though. Moyes the epitome of negative football and LVG who was more interested to keep the ball than scoring.

Problem is we didn't have a plan and kept hiring managers who has different identities.
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Van Gaal was a top manager at Barca and Bayern.

Mourinho top manager won the league everywhere the last 15 years but here.

The players on the other hand, most of them have no track record...
 
CA1 said:
Van Gaal was a top manager at Barca and Bayern.

Mourinho top manager won the league everywhere the last 15 years but here.

The players on the other hand, most of them have no track record...
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Van gaal top manager when ? Are you living in 90s ?
Jose was a right move but it's not working unfortunately. Replace him and move on
 
CA1 said:
If you really believe that's all this is then I honestly feel sorry for you because you're in for a tough few years. It's the hope that will kill you.
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Did you see the team Mourinho put out today? Yet the team still couldn’t defend. We looked better defensively under LVG and we didn’t look sloppy from set pieces under him.
 
bond19821982 said:
Van gaal top manager when ? Are you living in 90s ?
Jose was a right move but it's not working unfortunately. Replace him and move on
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His last club job before us won a few leagues, CL final etc.

His job months before starting at United was taking a poor Dutch team to a 3rd place WC finish.
 
We've been outplayed by West Ham, Wolves and Derby within the space of a week and some are still going on about not backing the manager over the summer. Give me a break.
 
This guy is a leech on Fergies success. He's produced Europe's second largest wage bill for what? Him constantly overpaying for players has given them all the power. He fecked around in the summer, making an utterly stupid decision to not back a manager but keep him.

At the end of the day it didn't matter to any of these cnuts, they all get paid no matter what. We are the ones that pay out hard earned money to endure this shambles, whilst they make an absolute mockery of the club.
 
Bojan11 said:
Did you see the team Mourinho put out today? Yet the team still couldn’t defend. We looked better defensively under LVG and we didn’t look sloppy from set pieces under him.
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The players have gone.

They defended well most of last season.

The players have thrown the towel in as the board has allowed them to.

The next manager will face the same issue. Rinse and repeat.
 
Since Ed Woodward...
2013/14: 22 points off title
2014/15: 17 points
2015/16: 15 points
2016/17: 27 points
2017/18: 19 points
2018/19: ???
 
He shouldn't be allowed to choose the next managerial appointment but we all know he'll.

And if he gets his third managerial appointment wrong and we end up at exactly the same place, excuses will run out for him.
 
CA1 said:
His last club job before us won a few leagues, CL final etc.

His job months before starting at United was taking a poor Dutch team to a 3rd place WC finish.
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When did CL final became an achievement that too with Bayern and not his last club job . His title in dutch league means feck all.

Again, you are missing my point. If we wanted to go with a possession approach we should have found someone who plays that way - like Pep. SAF, Moyes,LVG,Jose plays 4 different ways and we keep chopping the team for them . Now,.we have a good team and a good manager can definitely make it work. Jose is not that man though.
 
Is Woody's job tied to Mourinho's? I remember reading something to that effect at the beginning of the season. Three managerial failures in a row cannot be good for a chairman.
 
Unfortunately for him it's his 6th season at the helm and we've seen next to no progress at the club. All 3 managers he's hired - Moyes, Van Gaal and Mourinho, have played boring and unprogressive.

It's time for a restructuring. We need a director of football, and a clear philosophy on what we want to do. Just hiring a manager based on their name and hoping for the best is no longer feasible, and worse it's making us waste a lot of money on poor players. We need to do better.
 
el3mel said:
He shouldn't be allowed to choose the next managerial appointment but we all know he'll.

And if he gets his third managerial appointment wrong and we end up at exactly the same place, excuses will run out for him.
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Club is still making £££, so he is still the right man in the eyes of the Glazers.
 
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