Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Woodward knows Jose is our best hope, even at this stage. He isn't going to sack him unless things go really pear shaped and his position becomes untenable.
Backing means nothing, he’s gone if we don’t make top four or win the CL (lol).
I've read up on this conference call - which is to investors in the shares floated on the New York exchange a few years ago btw - and there really is nothing to see. The clubs financials are very similar to last year.
Matchday revenue down (due to a fewer games cos of the Europa run), broadcast and commercial up. Wage bill up (UCL participation) and profits down. Nothing to trouble investors or us fans. The commercial side has to be right to support the football. We haven't oil barons subsidising our club. We can either forget all that stuff and slowly decline or get in the real world and get the money in the till for players!
Matchday revenue down (due to a fewer games cos of the Europa run), broadcast and commercial up. Wage bill up (UCL participation) and profits down. Nothing to trouble investors or us fans. The commercial side has to be right to support the football. We haven't oil barons subsidising our club. We can either forget all that stuff and slowly decline or get in the real world and get the money in the till for players!
Ed in May: "Playing performance doesn't really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business."
Winning off the pitch is the only thing that impacts the Glazers' bottom line and winning on the pitch is not a prerequisite for it. They don't need a successful team.
This quote is deliberately misrepresented. All it means is that United will have high revenue even if we don’t win like we used to. Doesn’t necessarily mean no one gives a feck. Or winning off the pitch is the only aim. Luckhurst is similarly another wind up merchant baiting everyone and fortunately for him, it works.
Sickening. 10 years ago we were European champs and now we're bragging about app ratings and social media followers as a standard for success. We're just a banter club at this point.
I see a lot of hate for Woodward and a lot of hate for Jose on here. But what about the Glazers?
Believe me. If we were not burdened with annual interest payments and had an ambitious owner, we'd be a monster on and off of the pitch.
We wouldn't have 42 year old Tony Valencia as first choice right back. We wouldn't STILL have Chris Smalling and Phil Jones at the club. We wouldn't be persisting with Juan Mata, hoping that one day he'll be a consistent right winger.
We'd have shipped them out and we'd have quality in every position. But we've got penny pinchers in charge of the whole operation. They care about spreadsheets and interest payments. Man City and PSG's owners care only about winning, whatever it takes.
That's the difference.
Believe me. If we were not burdened with annual interest payments and had an ambitious owner, we'd be a monster on and off of the pitch.
We wouldn't have 42 year old Tony Valencia as first choice right back. We wouldn't STILL have Chris Smalling and Phil Jones at the club. We wouldn't be persisting with Juan Mata, hoping that one day he'll be a consistent right winger.
We'd have shipped them out and we'd have quality in every position. But we've got penny pinchers in charge of the whole operation. They care about spreadsheets and interest payments. Man City and PSG's owners care only about winning, whatever it takes.
That's the difference.
Ofcouse they are the main culprits but since we cannot fire everyone , the blame usually falls on the upper management.
Modern clubs tend to reflect the adminstration running them, especially so in our case sadly...
If these quotes are true, Jose going nowhere. End of story.
What else is Woody supposed to say right now? "Backing" means nothing. Plenty of times you see a board saying the manager "has their full backing" just weeks before firing him.Not till season's end at least
'Course he's not. At least until Top 4 is impossible. Plus a 3rd sacking would reflect badly on Ed.
I'm fine with backing him for now since we can't write off an entire season. But obviously expect some improvement, things can't continue as they are.
It's true that is the only inference that can be drawn directly from that quote. However, it is rather difficult to come up with good reasons why Woodward and the Glazers would be particularly concerned about the success (or lack thereof) of the team, given that it has no meaningful impact on revenues (or their dividends/share price).
Why spend the megabucks needed to overthrow City or win the Champions League if you'll never see a return on that investment? There's no suggestion any of these guys are football fans, is there?
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The ducktales thing on James Pique's timeline is hilarious.
They are real quotes.
Everything that comes out of Woodward/Other board members/The Owners should be of massive concern. They're driving the club into the ground.
Seeing is believing. So far nothing suggest it's going to happen.
No actions, no deal, only words, we're stuck with Jose.
Some tweets from Simon Stone's twitter account
They are real quotes.
Everything that comes out of Woodward/Other board members/The Owners should be of massive concern. They're driving the club into the ground.
I know. Now re-read the first six words in my post.
What you just wrote means that Ed was wrong. Not doing what the manager wanted and not having an alternative in mind to address the problem is wrong. Making arbitrary decisions that you're not qualified to make is wrong.
When will you people stop being offended by conference call quotes? He is saying what investors want to hear. His words mean nothing.
It means a lot. We know that's how the club is thinking. Nothing new I believe but more confirmation what the priorities od the club are.
Is there any other that keeps talking about Tweeter followers and App rating ?
How many other clubs are listed on the exchange.
Investors want to know the brand value of their investment? It means nothing.
Success on the pitch and trophies boosts the brand of all other top clubs without the need of talking about followers on Tweeter. We severely lack it so we only talk about social media success in these kinds of conferences. That's what people in charge of our club are viewing as a replacement of success on the pitch.
I think you're trying too hard to not believe the obvious.
This is true.
He is satisfying investors, giving them what they want to hear. And with a bit of luck, people will buy more shares in the club, driving its share price even higher, thus valuing it higher than it currently is.
Based on the financials, Woodward is doing a fantastic job and the Glazers really should give him a hefty bonus.
This club sadly is managed like a business, the owners clearly dont care about being winners, as long as the earning keeps increasing they have no motivation to invest, I would do the same if I was the owner of a club and sport I didnt give a F about, sadly they are destroying ManUtd
oh yeah? That's a ridiculous nonsense, some people seem to lack some brains cells to put things into perspective, it often loks like from a local pub where all the men after 10th beer start spouting shit.
Woodward replaced Gill at 2012, the next year we won our title and SAF who has been much more than a manager at the time recommended as his successor Moyes, who absolutely terribly failed, couldn't identify viable players and deserved to get kicked out but who would argue against the big SAF? and change the structure of the club? Woodward and his team identified Van Gaal, who was well known for playing great attackign football and promoting younsgters, when you're good enough you're young enough- we well know this, great fix and fit for United with a squad of revolting senior players. It was the best appointment at the time no other better manager was out there available, he even won the third place at WC, all looked optimistic and woodward get him players he wanted, he absolutely terribly failed, not only he changed his philosophy upside down, he couldn't show the door to rooney and all the transfers he made were shocking. There is absolutely no blame on woodward he backed the manager. The next one in the row was Mourinho - an absolutely logical decision with which even his haters including me agreed, again the best available manager regarding the situation, he got the players he wanted until maybe this window where it is clear that Mourinho had spend alread big sum of money which should have made us a better team then we are now challenging for something.
Where did he made a mistake appointing which managers? Super easy to talk about IFs and so on but retrospectively, it're good and possibly best decisions. This blaming Woodward games are really pathetic and shows lack of knowledge and perspective but I'd just say a common sense. Stop this bullshit
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It's an investors call. They are there to discuss the club's commerce and finance especially
What was Ed's plan for rebuilding the team when he sacked Moyes ?
Woodward talked previously about our 4th place finish under LVG and the 2 trophies in Mourinho first season in these calls to talk about the team "success" when he actually could.
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