Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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The thread has gone quiet because it's ultimately boring repeating the same posts over and over and over again imo.
Agreed. Also until another transfer window comes up, theres not a lot for him to do or not to do, so no talking points transfer wise. All he needs to do is give De Gea what he wants before its too late.
 
This is a big assumptiom by me but I think United have a problem with pulling power as all other clubs of similar size are in bigger cities plus there is the English weather factor.

Throughout recent history, United struggled to get the truly top talent available at the moment. I have been following this forum for ten plus years and can tell you that the posters' wishes almost never materialize.

Then when United somehow manage to bring in proven players from outside England (Di Maria), he wants to leave. All the other signings in the last decade or so were vrought in either from England or from much smaller clubs (ie Herrera).

Self-proclaimed biggest club in the world, United lose a peak Ronaldo to Real after playing their second CL final in two years. At the same time, Real had not made the last eight in seven years at that point. Let that sink in.

Basically, United cannot compete with other clubs of similar size, and then there are smaller clubs with money that can blow United out of the wayer financially (City and PSGs).

So, United cannot compete for the Bales and Alcantaras of the world and therefore have to bring in the Matas and Hereras... At grossly inflated prices, as the sellers know United have money.

United had two spells as an European powerhouse, but those were made possible by once-in-a-lifetime class of 92 and by the perfect storm that was Ronaldo and Rooney developing in the way they have.

Given that United were never really able to bring in top talent and that finding young players first is becoming increasingly difficult nowadays due to improved scouting, the question that arises is if United can ever again becomr one of the best sides in europe.
Yes I agree Manchester doesnt have the same ring to it as playing in Barcelona, Madrid, Munich, Turin etc, but City seem to be able to attract top talent and keep them. Silva, Aguerro Toure (until this season and thats down to age) etc all top talent that hasnt moved on. They dont seem to have to pay top dollar to get players in either, or have massive salaries. Add to that the likes of Jesus Sane De Bruyne who will all become world class or as near as dammit and we are doing something fundementally wrong
 
I commented in the Maguire thread but I’m relieved we didn’t go in for him in the end. Looked slow and very clumsy yesterday, if Ed pushed back on that, good call imo.
Maguire is a good player, harsh to say he isn't worth it off of one performance. I would have gone for Alderweireld personally but Maguire would have been decent especially since Rojo and Jones can't seem to stay fit to save their lives.
 
We were pushing for a Darmian exit all summer and his agent failed in negotiations with 3 clubs. There’s not a lot else the club could do at that point.

I’m not sure how Darmian going on loan would help anything either, he’s not a disruptive influence by any stretch and at the start of the season we were without Valencia, Young and Dalot so Darmian was needed.
We could have saved money on his wages if he'd have gone out on loan. We could have gone to Lindelof or Bailly there in an emergency to start the season.
 
We could have saved money on his wages if he'd have gone out on loan. We could have gone to Lindelof or Bailly there in an emergency to start the season.

Exactly what difference would saving some money have made to the start of our season?
 
The fact that the team is doing better doesn't hide from the fact that Woodward erred by not signing the defender Mourinho wanted and not offloading Darmian (at least on loan).

I'm no fan of Woodward and it appears more could be done in the transfer market.

Loaning out Darmian was a good strategic decision in my view. Clearly not good enough for our ambitions, but a good defender back in his 'natural habitat' of Seria A. Rumours are that several Italian clubs wanted him, but aren't willing to take him permanently. A loan deal is only a short-term saving in his wages, while his value drops to a pittance.

If we held out for a permanent deal, then that's good in my view. Makes a statement that we are a club not to be taken advantage of.
 
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Yes I agree Manchester doesnt have the same ring to it as playing in Barcelona, Madrid, Munich, Turin etc, but City seem to be able to attract top talent and keep them. Silva, Aguerro Toure (until this season and thats down to age) etc all top talent that hasnt moved on. They dont seem to have to pay top dollar to get players in either, or have massive salaries. Add to that the likes of Jesus Sane De Bruyne who will all become world class or as near as dammit and we are doing something fundementally wrong

Are you sure ? City offered Aguero and Yaya double what the highest earner was on at United at the time.
 
More pressure on chinless :devil:

Not a chance we'll make top 4.

Well done Edward you half-witted clown.
 
Why does this get bumped every time we don't win!

It's gonna get bumped a lot this season!
 
There's a clear lack of planning as far as recruitment goes at the moment.

You have 11 first team players who are out of contract at the end of this season. Of the 11, De Gea, Valencia, Darmian, A. Pereira and Martial all have one year extension options. I would expect the club to try to pin down De Gea and Martial to new long-term deals and activate the extra year clause for Valencia and A. Pereira. They might activate the Darmian extension too so they can command a transfer fee for him, but as no one has taken him yet, they might just let him go for nothing to get him off the wage-bill.


There's a very high chance Jones and Smalling won't be offered new deals and will be released. I'd be surprised if they were offered new contracts.

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Sorry, just read this

There's no chance we're releasing our best defender on a free!
 
Why does this get bumped every time we don't win!

It's gonna get bumped a lot this season!
Because it's relevant as every bad result means we won't get in the top 4 which will surely signal the end for chinless.

Consider it a silver lining to every bad result.

We won't win the title and I'm personally not that arsed about CL football as we won't win it anyway. But the club care about the £££.

I'd take 5th and Chinless out over finishing 4th and him staying 100%.
 
How dare he force Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Bailly, Lingard and Mkhitaryan on him! Billions wasted by Woodward, that's what we see on the pitch. And why does every team we play against look more cohesive with more of a footballing plan than ours? Why after 2 seasons we see not a single shred of evidence that this team is coached with a clear idea on how to play? Rubbish!

Get Woodward replaced and extend Mou's contract by 5 years! He doesn't control Lukaka's feet so it's fine his (actually woodward's hehehe) buys keep missing and it's fine our defence look like oafs (two players that WOODWARD, WOODY WOOD PECKER WOODWARD BOUGHT!!!).
 
The talk about appointing a director has dried up.

I'm pretty sure it was just a play from Ed to convince everyone he'll work to save things.

Expect him to bump it now to the media till the results become good again and so on.
 
How dare he force Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Bailly, Lingard and Mkhitaryan on him! Billions wasted by Woodward, that's what we see on the pitch. And why does every team we play against look more cohesive with more of a footballing plan than ours? Why after 2 seasons we see not a single shred of evidence that this team is coached with a clear idea on how to play? Rubbish!

Get Woodward replaced and extend Mou's contract by 5 years!


We could get rid of them both. I'm hoping we try a female coach. Something? Anything? Why not?
 
The talk about appointing a director has dried up.

I'm pretty sure it was just a play from Ed to convince everyone he'll work to save things.

Expect him to bump it now to the media till the results become good again and so on.
Yep.

It's sad to say this as a fan but we need bad results consistently in order to fashion a change.

I'm not going to lie I'm pleased we only drew today, we don't want to go on too much of a good run.
 
Yep.

It's sad to say this as a fan but we need bad results consistently in order to fashion a change.

I'm not going to lie I'm pleased we only drew today, we don't want to go on too much of a good run.
No white text?
 
The signing of Lukaku seems like Woodward's biggest mistake today. Should have vetoed that 2 years ago.

Feck me.
 
Damn you Woodward, that new center half that Jose wanted would totally have improved our non entity of an attack and the non existent coaching they seem to receive.
 
A team with this much talent shouldn't be crying about not spending 150m after dropping points to Wolves. It's embarrassing
 
When Wolves looks like a better footballing side than our lot, how is he responsible.
How would Alderweireld or Maguire have helped today?
 
When Wolves looks like a better footballing side than our lot, how is he responsible.
How would Alderweireld or Maguire have helped today?
The teams mentality has dropped because it knows we have a shit player like Lindelof at the back. The players have no confidence in him at all.

The team also know they're nowhere near Liverpool, Chelsea and City player-wise and that reflects in their attitude.
 
The weird thing is that if Ed gave Jose what he wanted and we played like this he'd have every eight to terminate his contract. He's given Jose the biggest out ever by blocking ALL his requests.

I doubt Perisic or Willian and a CB alone will erase this malaise. I am sure Perisic will come in scoring 3 goals in 3 games and then start to become as ineffective as Sanchez in our current system. Without proper coaching no attacker can produce.
 
The teams mentality has dropped because it knows we have a shit player like Lindelof at the back. The players have no confidence in him at all.

The team also know they're nowhere near Liverpool, Chelsea and City player-wise and that reflects in their attitude.
Sounds like hogwsh to me.
 
The teams mentality has dropped because it knows we have a shit player like Lindelof at the back. The players have no confidence in him at all.

The team also know they're nowhere near Liverpool, Chelsea and City player-wise and that reflects in their attitude.

That's just silly. I'm not defending Lindelof, but to blame him for our attackers constantly looking fecking clueless is highly questionable.
 
But Wolves are only playing better football (with an inferior squad) because their manager has got them playing "together" like that. So of course it's got to be down to the manager!
Precisely. We constantly look like strangers .
 
I doubt Perisic or Willian and a CB alone will erase this malaise. I am sure Perisic will come in scoring 3 goals in 3 games and then start to become as ineffective as Sanchez in our current system. Without proper coaching no attacker can produce.
You didn't understand what I'm saying???

I never said that Jose would have us top of the league if he got all his wish list.

I said that he can't be sacked because he didn't get them.
 
You didn't understand what I'm saying???

I never said that Jose would have us top of the league if he got all his wish list.

I said that he can't be sacked because he didn't get them.

He can if he doesn't get top 4. His signings only were meant for a title challenge.

This squad can get Top 4, and Jose never claimed he wouldn't finish 4th without signings. Only said a title challenge would be difficult.
 
I was looking for the white type :lol:

I am not sure what's funny? Clearly, Jose wanted further additions to help us go from 2nd to 1st. He didn't get that.

With Spurs not strengthening and Arsenal in a transition, it isn't difficult to get Top 4 with this squad. You can't sack Jose if he doesn't win the title or challenge, but you can sack if he can't even get 4th.
 
I am not sure what's funny? Clearly, Jose wanted further additions to help us go from 2nd to 1st. He didn't get that.

With Spurs not strengthening and Arsenal in a transition, it isn't difficult to get Top 4 with this squad. You can't sack Jose if he doesn't win the title or challenge, but you can sack if he can't even get 4th.
What was funny is that you posted an answer without a reply … then you edited it. Then edited it again after that. :lol:
 
Damn you Woodward, that new center half that Jose wanted would totally have improved our non entity of an attack and the non existent coaching they seem to receive.
Yeah because a good manager can win without new players. Look at Guardiola before he broke the premiership spending record buying new players for last season. They looked great didn't they... /end sarcasm

It's a combination of factors and Woodward / The Glazers are part of the problem. To deny it would be ridiculous.
 
Damn you Woodward, that new center half that Jose wanted would totally have improved our non entity of an attack and the non existent coaching they seem to receive.
Haven't we scored about 8 goals in the last 4 games?
 
Haven't we scored about 8 goals in the last 4 games?

Or more like 9 goals in 6 PL games average 1.5 GOALS per games back to Jose first season and LVG. You don't win PL unless you score more than 75 goals, yes I know Leicester and Jose did but there was No Peps City then!
 
I am not sure what's funny? Clearly, Jose wanted further additions to help us go from 2nd to 1st. He didn't get that.

With Spurs not strengthening and Arsenal in a transition, it isn't difficult to get Top 4 with this squad. You can't sack Jose if he doesn't win the title or challenge, but you can sack if he can't even get 4th.

You still have to ask the question does he know how to create an attacking team that can put teams to the sword and score 85 goals plus in the PL. The facts state that he can not so why persevere when Zidane is available now. Jose has now managed in over 120 games for United and I've been to about 80 of them, still his United team have never scored more than 4 goals. He just doesn't fit our style or our history. He's done an ok job giving the difficult circumstances but United Fans want to go to Old Trafford to be entertained and watch Attacking swashbuckling football.
 
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