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Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Pretty sure he's kidding.
I hate to admit it, but I do agree.
Players seem to start off well at MUFC, then decline rapidly. This happened during the LVG reign and seems to be happening under Jose, now, too.
Jesus fecking christ, how is it his mistake? Mourinho decided to go after him, he needed to replace Zlatan and it was the only viable option at the time. How could he vetoed that, We should have a better scouting team if anything
If only we had signed Toby and Fathead Maguire!!!!
Damn you Woodward!!!!
Damn you Woodward!!!!
If Mourinho didn't want to sign any attacking players, then Mourinhos to blame for our poor attacking options.
But regardless if Woodward doesn't want to back Mourinho, then what's the point of keeping him around? We're going to face a long and boring season fighting for top 4, when we should've been making a title challenge. Just all a bit tedious, from Mourinho, from Woodward, from the higher ups.
But regardless if Woodward doesn't want to back Mourinho, then what's the point of keeping him around? We're going to face a long and boring season fighting for top 4, when we should've been making a title challenge. Just all a bit tedious, from Mourinho, from Woodward, from the higher ups.
Well we're not exactly keeping a lot of clean sheets this season.
It's called priorities. Our centre-backs are not amazing in terms of quality but they are clearly good enough (Smalling/Lindelof/Bailly can do a job for us) if we could actually scare the fcuking opposition a bit and score some goals.
Unless you want us to be some kind of George Graham (Arsenal) side. 1-0 to the United.
Feck that.
That comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek...
Lukaku isn't Mourinho's worst signing.
Woodward is being used as a scapegoat by some to excuse Mourinho's failings.
I was about to ask if it was tongue-in-cheek regarding blaming Woodward for the summer and then thought 'well if he's not doing that and being totally serious I can't be bothered with an argument'.
What was funny is that you posted an answer without a reply … then you edited it. Then edited it again after that.
Yep, because my laptop froze midway. Could even be its' reaction to our terrible game today.
hard to tell what's meant as true and irony these days here, this place can go totally crazy at times, so haha
More pressure on chinless
Not a chance we'll make top 4.
Well done Edward you half-witted clown.
Do any of you actually have a rational reason for disliking Woodward, or for even thinking that he is the issue with us? We got outplayed by a newly promoted team who looked more fluid and cohesive then we do. The simple fact of the matter is that that is down to the manger, and whether or not we the purchase another CB doesn't change the fact the front 3 look like its the first time they've ever played with each other..
The real problem is plain to see, we still have no clear strategy of developing the team style and no idea where it will be in 1 year, 3 years or 10 years. We have failed to score over 75 premier league Goals since last wining the Premier league in 2012-13. The club and brand is built on attacking football and an average of 2 goals per premier league game played should not be a problem for a club that has the highest wage bill in the Premier League however we have recruited 3 DEFENSIVE managers after Sir Alex and none have get near wining a PL or playing the brand of football that the club deserves.
We now operate on a scattergun transfer policy where we will pay over the odds both in transfer fees and wages to get players who don't really fit the type of players that Sir Alex would have looked at. What breaks my heart is under Woodward and more recently LVG and Jose is that players like Nick Powell, Wilfred Zaha, Adnan Januaji, Memphis Depay, Michael Keane, all would have been given a chance by Sir Alex to develop from young boys into grounded intelligent young Men and by doing this they would have developed a love for the club that simply can not be matched anywhere else.
Eric Bailly would never have been signed because of his Commitment to play in the African Cup of Nations, Lindelof because he simply is not good enough, Marco Rojo would have become a good CB under Sir Alex and we would have bought Stones and Maguire probably 3 years ago! Our core squad would be made up of honest hard working young men that respected the manager and realised how privelledged they were to play for Sir Alex and United sprinkled with 4 or 5 truly world class players.
Ander Herrera would have become a first team fixture and Lukaku would have been 1 of 4 or 5 strikers competing for 2 or 3 places. We would never have conceeded possession to teams like Wolverhampton at Old Trafford and Sir Alex would Never of aired the club's problems or called out players in the media. Jose is not fully culpable, Woodward is more at fault being completley out of his death at running a football club, let alone the biggest one in the UK.
Maybe it's just time to not only change the Manager but the CEO as well!
We now operate on a scattergun transfer policy where we will pay over the odds both in transfer fees and wages to get players who don't really fit the type of players that Sir Alex would have looked at. What breaks my heart is under Woodward and more recently LVG and Jose is that players like Nick Powell, Wilfred Zaha, Adnan Januaji, Memphis Depay, Michael Keane, all would have been given a chance by Sir Alex to develop from young boys into grounded intelligent young Men and by doing this they would have developed a love for the club that simply can not be matched anywhere else.
Eric Bailly would never have been signed because of his Commitment to play in the African Cup of Nations, Lindelof because he simply is not good enough, Marco Rojo would have become a good CB under Sir Alex and we would have bought Stones and Maguire probably 3 years ago! Our core squad would be made up of honest hard working young men that respected the manager and realised how privelledged they were to play for Sir Alex and United sprinkled with 4 or 5 truly world class players.
Ander Herrera would have become a first team fixture and Lukaku would have been 1 of 4 or 5 strikers competing for 2 or 3 places. We would never have conceeded possession to teams like Wolverhampton at Old Trafford and Sir Alex would Never of aired the club's problems or called out players in the media. Jose is not fully culpable, Woodward is more at fault being completley out of his death at running a football club, let alone the biggest one in the UK.
Maybe it's just time to not only change the Manager but the CEO as well!
The last 5 years aren't enough ?
And the managers are all his appointment too. If he failed with 2 managerial appointment, why should we trust him with yet a third one ?
That explains itYep, because my laptop froze midway. Could even be its' reaction to our terrible game today.
Its absolutely on Woodward and the Glazers if Liverpool equal Utds title record of 20, they have to back the manager,simples!
He and The Glazers are one of the biggest issues. Doesn't excuse the managers mistakes or player inconsistency. It's a nice big complicated mess.
Agreed.
This is your daily reminder that Woodward is a useless, clueless idiot and that we'll never be successful club with him running football decisions.
I'm pretty confident we'll look back and be happy with him questioning these transfers. Mourinho will be gone soon (end of season anyway), it was always on the cards given the football on show and there's no point bringing in the likes of Harry Maguire or Willian for big money when the next manager might consider them cack.
Only problem I've ever had with him is hiring José and then giving him a premature extension. Other than that he's done nothing that warrants the abuse he gets.
I wanted a CB like everyone else, but his reasons for not buying José one were completely valid so I'm not going to criticise him for that like most.
My opinion on the matter, too.
It's almost guaranteed Willian would be Sanchez mk2 on the right and another of Jose's "undroppable warriors". And unlike Sanchez, he doesn't even come in with a reputation for being prolific. Ed was wise to veto this one, says it all that Chelsea fans were bouncing over the idea of flogging Willian to us for north of 50 million.
Still glad he didn't let Jose swap Martial for Willian. Jose was about to put all our eggs in the Sanchez basket. That's one disaster averted.
The idea that Woody the hero valiantly denied Jose Maguire/Toby and Willian doesn't completely make sense considering he signed Fred and Dalot.
If you believe everything out of United and Tottenham we were never in for Alderwiereld anyway, it seems likely that the fans didn't know who we were after but obviously in the end it didn't materialise, and the club are just too tight to spend despite earning big money.
If you believe everything out of United and Tottenham we were never in for Alderwiereld anyway, it seems likely that the fans didn't know who we were after but obviously in the end it didn't materialise, and the club are just too tight to spend despite earning big money.
Ah yeah, we've really been tightening the purse strings over the last 5 seasons. /s
It's a shit situation to be in.
The reason why he allowed Jose sign Fred and Dalot is simple. If the next guy doesn't want, their resale value would still be high.
We wouldn't have that luxury with Willian and Toby .
It's a shit situation because the manager CEO should be on the same page. Since that isn't the case,we need a DoF.
They have spent big to be fair to them, although a lot of it unfortunately was wasted.
What I mean is we get second place and big champions league money with the sponsors and what have you, then the purse strings tighten.
Maybe they have just given up on Mourinho, but if they have its a bit shitty to keep him on and waste a season from our perspective rather than getting someone in who they like.
Sure the last 5 years are terrible.... that doesnt mean it is his fault. If you think it is, then i'm asking why? Moyes was fergies decision, and if you saying he failed with the other 2 managers, then by default you are accepting that Mourinho is a failure? To clarify are you saying Ed should go, and mourinho?
It seems as though people are just making emotional arguments.... Glazers/Woodward are bad.... everything is there fault. So again, what is the rational decision for saying Woodward is useless and clueless? Hes hired a 'serial winner', and bought him a FB, 2xCB, 3xCM, Winger, + Striker, and we have the best keeper in the world. That's virtually a starting 11 of the managers and we have no cohesion, haven't challenged, don't look like challenging , and if anything are regressing.
Correlation does not equal causation
Woody suffers small man syndrome.
Needs to feck off with Maureen and the glazer gimps!
Needs to feck off with Maureen and the glazer gimps!
When we are not in the top 4, we spend, to get into the top 4.
When we are in the top 4, we don't spend.
Surely you can't argue that the £50M net spend in the Summer was acceptable?
We spent quite a bit when LVG came 4th didnt we?
We also spent quite a bit when Jose won Europa and got us into the UCL that way.
Its only this summer - where most teams struggled to spend due to the short window that we spent little. Even then add to that targets like Willian Peresic and Maguire you can see why, I think if Spurs we're willing to play ball we would have signed Toby.
The LVG second summer was a complete disaster one. We got rid of RVP, Chicha, Di Maria with Falcao loan ending and got Depay and Morgan, while paying 6m to get a washed out Bastian from Bayern. Martial came on as a panic transfer on the last day because we looked terribly boring in the first games despite results not being bad, we scored 2 in the first 3 games in the league, one was own goal.
So we directly moved from having Rooney, Di Maria, RVP, Falcao and Mata as our attacking options to having Rooney, Depay, Martial and Mata as ours, with Martial coming as a panic buy.
Actually how was anyone confident of a good season after such summer ? The writings were on the wall really.
I didn't say it was a good summer, my point was we were spending and not afraid to spend. That summer we spent most of it chasing down Bale and missed out on Pedro because of it. That was also the summer we were ready to sign Ramos but who used us for a new contract wasn't it?
So yes not a good summer, but not one where you can say United were reluctant to spend money because we came in the top 4, which was what the post I quoted was saying.
Except we didn't. We were ready to enter the season with Depay and Morgan as our biggest transfers + a washed out Bastian while selling everyone in the attack to free space for Rooney. Martial came out as a panic buy at last day.
That actually happened exactly in LVG first summer too. We signed Shaw and Herrera while he was with Netherlands. He then joined the team and had a great preseason so the board decided to not spend any longer and keep what we had. The shock of such disastrous results in the first games, getting two points out of first 9 while getting smashed 4-0 by Mk Dones forced us to panic buy 4 players in the last 2 weeks. More than half of our transfers in this window came in the last 2 weeks due to panic on the crap results and fear of not getting CL again !
Damn, the more I look at it, the more I discover how Ed reign gets more and more terrible in my eyes.
Yes it was panic and nothing to do with the manager wanting to assess players in pre season. The 2 players we signed before that were not players already lined up before the manager came. You just have an agenda and sre unable to be objective
Who is his counterpart at Liverpool? Throw all the money that Woody has brought from sponsorships at that man as he's doing a much better job than Woody at building a good squad of players.
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