Maguire | NOT McGuire or MacGuire

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I'd definitely take him. Sell Jones for around £15m to someone on his level like Everton, West Ham. I'd bet Maguire-Smalling would be the starting partnership with Bailly and Lindelöf pushing to get ahead of them, Rojo can be sold next summer and Tuanzebe can take his place in the first team squad.
 
Swap deal for Jones sounds good. I know this is not some football computer game but whilst we need better CB's we also need to offload the dead wood. Jones, Rojo
 
And simply because we are an English club, I think we’ve got a responsibility to have great English talent in our ranks.

If we are looking to sell players like Jones, Shaw, even Smalling and losing Carrick. That quota will need to be added to though, either with youth or new talent.
 
He’s the same level as most of our current centre backs. But he can stay fit and more importantly pass the ball.
That's not very high praise at all. We need an improvement if we are going to spend big money on a centre bad.
England did defend pretty well in the WC, but then they didn't face any great attacking teams.
 
He’s also got a club team who he had a Surprisingly most World Cup players also play for a club and Maguire had a good season for his, including a standout performance against us.
He had a good season, and he had good world cup,I agree.
Is he a top world class defender worth spending a fortune on? For me the jury is out.
 
He plays LCB naturally, good on the ball, English, fairly young, good header. "Hummels lite" is what i would descibe him as.

I agree with the guy who said give them Phil Jones and 20-30m.
Are Leicester going bankrupt? Or do you think they are run by people with no sense of a players worth. You will have seen with Mahrez that they will not roll over to a bigger club.
With Jones injury history he is worth next to nothing to a club like Leicester
 
I rate him. The first time I really watched him was when he scored the winner vs us with Hull. It wasn't even the goal, though, he just dominated us and was very calm in bringing the ball out of defense.

Me and a few others on Redcafe were advocating for him to be signed from Hull, if only Woody listened, eh? :lol:. It's a pity we didn't sign him from Hull and waited until he had a good world cup (££££££££). He's better than what we have and we need a CB so I'm cool with this transfer.

A Maguire-Bailly pairing has huge potential as their abilities would compliment each other.
 
I doubt we are interested. He looks the same player that stood out against us for Hull in 16/17 but Mourinho/the scouts decided Lindelof was a better buy at £30m+.
 
He is better than Jones, Smalling, Rojo and probably Lindelof so not sure how people can turn their nose up to him. For £50m I'd do that in a heartbeat.

With selling Blind for £20m that is nearly half of the transfer covered anyways.
 
He is better than Jones, Smalling, Rojo and probably Lindelof so not sure how people can turn their nose up to him. For £50m I'd do that in a heartbeat.

With selling Blind for £20m that is nearly half of the transfer covered anyways.

And "probably" Lindelof? Smalling and jones are far better than Lindelof.
 
Dalot, Fred, Maguire, Alex Sandro and Perisic in.
Rojo, Blind and Darmian out.

Would be a good summer for us as long as we switch to three at the back.
 
lol at people saying he's at the same level as jones and smalling. Difference is smalling and jones been at the club for at least 7 years and hit their peak. On the other hand, Macguire been at hull city and leiceister and has steadily improved each year, the guy has yet to hit his ceiling. Put him in a bigger club with better players and a great manager and let's see what he can do.
 
This would be a brilliant signing.

On paper, he's Bailly's perfect partner. What Bailly lacks in heading ability and distribution is made up through Maguire's biggest strengths. On the other hand, Bailly has that pace that Maguire lacks. I look at Maguire and see Jones + heading and passing. He's also extremely comfortable as the left sided central defender, something that lets Smalling down somewhat.

Bringing in Maguire and binning off halfwits like Rojo and Lindelof wouldn't be a bad move at all. Smalling and Jones would be excellent cover.
bit harsh there
 
Great player and one that would probably end up becoming a fan favourite and spending the majority of his career here. Would be happy for us to invest in him rather than overspend on Alderwhatever
 
Crazy posts in here...

Maguire is better than any CBs we've got.

And in a World where VVD goes for 75m, anything around 60m for Maguire is a good deal.
I agree. Sell Rojo and Jones and we will have good set of CBs
 
If we are looking to sell players like Jones, Shaw, even Smalling and losing Carrick. That quota will need to be added to though, either with youth or new talent.
Aren't we fine in that aspect with the third keeper, Jones, Smalling, Shaw, Young, Pogba, Lingard and Lukaku? Now, some of Jones, Smalling and Shaw might leave (Young likely will be for an another 2 seasons), but Rashford soon will be 21 and so will count. Add to that, we don't really need 25 senior players. Even if we lost all of Shaw, Smalling, Jones and Young in the next two years, still on Pogba, Lukaku, Lingard, Rashford and a homegrown third keeper, you can still have a 22 players team. And that is assuming that neither of Tuanzabe, TFM and other youngsters don't make it.

Saying that, would happily sacrifice one of Smalling, Rojo or Jones for Maguire, but his stock now is higher than it will ever be. Common wisdom says that signing players based in a World Cup is not a good thing to do. 1 month ago, and 40m would have looked expensive for him, while now we will probably need to spend 60-70m on him.
 
I agree. Sell Rojo and Jones and we will have good set of CBs
Agree with this.

Maguire looked great for Hull, and he's stepped up at Leicester also.

His lack of pace is a little doubt but that's easily covered by Smalling / Bailly.
 
Lindelöf was great for Sweden during the World Cup. Don't get the hate for him on here.

This thread funnily encapsulates the bullshit spewed here, generally speaking people are aware of 'Maguire's lackings' which, apparently, is no problem as it can be complemented by Bailly/Smalling's strengths, however, the same cannot be done for Lindelöf, he's trash and we should get rid of.
 
This thread funnily encapsulates the bullshit spewed here, generally speaking people are aware of 'Maguire's lackings' which, apparently, is no problem as it can be complemented by Bailly/Smalling's strengths, however, the same cannot be done for Lindelöf, he's trash and we should get rid of.

Lindelof looked pretty good in a team playing 1980s British style football, sat deep in a 4-4-2 with two banks of 4. Most fans loath this approach in the few games Mourinho employs it in every season.

Personally I don't mind pragmatism in a big game but Jones and Smalling offer even more than Lindelof in that situation because they are better in the air.
 
Lindelof had a solid first season in the prem. Shaky start but ended well imo. His performances for Sweden only reinforce the fact that he is a talented CB with a lot of potential. I wouldn't have any problem with him and Maguire being our starting CBs next season.
 
Lindelof looked pretty good in a team playing 1980s British style football, sat deep in a 4-4-2 with two banks of 4. Most fans loath this approach in the few games Mourinho employs it in every season.

Personally I don't mind pragmatism in a big game but Jones and Smalling offer even more than Lindelof in that situation because they are better in the air.

How is this relevant to what I've said as I must be missing the point? Maguire played in a team that scored what, 80% of the goals from set pieces, playing 3/5 at the back?
 
How is this relevant to what I've said as I must be missing the point? Maguire played in a team that scored what, 80% of the goals from set pieces, playing 3/5 at the back?

You're talking about compensating for his weaknesses. Do you want United to play in the system that Lindelof has looked capable in on a regular basis, the football Roy Hodgson took to Sweden?
 
You're talking about compensating for his weaknesses. Do you want United to play in the system that Lindelof has looked capable in on a regular basis, the football Roy Hodgson took to Sweden?

Yes, because transferring one player from team A to team B means that the team will play the same way as the old team of player A, that's why we look like Juventus/Arsenal combination nowadays.
 
Jones, Rojos, Blind and Darmian out and McGuire IN.

Playing him in a 3 with Bailly and Lindelof would be quite formidable.
 
Jones, Rojos, Blind and Darmian out and McGuire IN.

Playing him in a 3 with Bailly and Lindelof would be quite formidable.
The problem of that is that only Smalling would be a backup for CB. However, I wouldn't mind at all selling Jones and Rojo in order to get Maguire. Combined, they played 36 matches last season, so getting rid of both of them and signing just one reliable CB will actually be a good business.
 
The problem of that is that only Smalling would be a backup for CB. However, I wouldn't mind at all selling Jones and Rojo in order to get Maguire. Combined, they played 36 matches last season, so getting rid of both of them and signing just one reliable CB will actually be a good business.

We also have TFM and Axel if he doesn't go out on loan.
 
True enough. And we can go to back two if needed (like if two CBs are injured at the same time).

Yup in fact I can't see us playing 3 at the back but I guess it could depend on who we buy this summer which could dictate the formation of our team.
 
He has mistake or two in him nothing which can't be worked upon but he doesn't seem like absolute top talent to me and doesn't fit the profile we should look at if we are adding another Cb i.e either a experienced leader or absolute elite prospect , for the price which might be required to prise him away from leicester city we should set our sight higher.

There's no absolute top talents in defence anymore and that include the experienced heads like Bonucci or Toby. I can't think of anyone near to the likes of Rio and Terry. The closest of the bunch are either available or would cost a bomb.

I haven't watch Maguire enough to build a definite opinion. However from what I heard he's still young, he's great in air and comfortable with the ball. He's far from the finished product though. He's slow and he is prone to the occasional mistakes. So this is what I think

Most of our CBs are more comfortable in a 3 men CB, while most of our wingers are crap or more comfortable in a more central position. So lets get Maguire and move to a 3 men CB system. A 3-4-2-1 with Bailly-Maguire-Smalling at the back, Sandro, Dalot, Fred and Matic in midfield and with Sanchez & Pogba as attacking midfield behind Lukaku could do the trick.

If we still have issues in defence then Toby would be available for 25m next season.
 
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