Maguire is very, very good on the ball, as good as alderweireld certainly. I'm not against us signing bonucci as well but Maguire could be our best centre back for seven years or more.
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Also don't think his wages would be all that exorbitant. Prefer Alderweireld but I like Maguire and would be quite happy with adding him so long as we sell one of our existing CBs aside from Blind, unless the plan is to play 3 at the back more often, which could well be possible.
I'd rather spend big money on Maguire than Toby. Better in the air, four years younger, no doubts over injury record as far as I'm aware. I'd see Toby here but not for more than £40m or thereabouts. What spurs were asking for was a joke.
Wouldn't be against it but would rather Alderweireld. Don't see him forcing a move though
I don't think we need a new CB.
I like our 5 main CBs. I think they have shown themselves at times to be really good defenders.
But, what last season and the WC has shown is that it helps to have CBs that are comfortable on the ball. I think that all of our current defenders (except Smalling) are capable.
I'm not not seeing any major gaps in our play that either Alderweireld or Maguire is needed for.
But yet we are linked and linked with a new CB. I think we need a RW desperately followed by a LB then a RB. CB is fourth in my list! But there we are.
He plays LCB naturally, good on the ball, English, fairly young, good header. "Hummels lite" is what i would descibe him as.
I agree with the guy who said give them Phil Jones and 20-30m.
I agree with the guy who said give them Phil Jones and 20-30m.
He's very good in the air, which we need, but he messes about with the ball too much for my liking. I'm not sure about him one way or the other really.
If it happens then fair enough but I wouldn't be disappointed if we weren't interested.
If it happens then fair enough but I wouldn't be disappointed if we weren't interested.
If we can sell Jones and Blind for 20M each (seems like a lot for Jones but Prem money flying around) and Maguire costs 60M that's only 20M to give us a better CB unit than we had last year.
Maguire (Lindelof) - Bailly (Smalling)
and then Rojo and one of either Tuanzebe or Fosu-Mensah as depth.
Though there are also CBs i'd certainly rather us throw 60M at, Maguire being historically durable, 25 years old, comfortable in the Prem and likely to get a bit better under Mourinho as most CBs seem too makes it fairly low risk. Did wander away from Mandzukic the other day, but that seems like the sort of thing Mourinho CBs don't do much and he can't be any more erratic than Rojo was when he got here surely.
Maguire (Lindelof) - Bailly (Smalling)
and then Rojo and one of either Tuanzebe or Fosu-Mensah as depth.
Though there are also CBs i'd certainly rather us throw 60M at, Maguire being historically durable, 25 years old, comfortable in the Prem and likely to get a bit better under Mourinho as most CBs seem too makes it fairly low risk. Did wander away from Mandzukic the other day, but that seems like the sort of thing Mourinho CBs don't do much and he can't be any more erratic than Rojo was when he got here surely.
I'm convinced that the media generally knows nothing.
I'm gonna trust that Mourinho identifies and fill the necessary positions in the squad especially RW. If not, I think he will be endangering his job and the team's chances.
Then again, what do I know....he's the Special One!
Best passing range in the league for a CB by quite a margin. Better than Stones overall.
We already have two young prospect such as Bailey and Lindelof. What we are lacking is experience, and Alderweilder gives us that.
The type of signing SAF would make. Proven, seems like a good guy, at the right age, and still hungry for success.
He alone won't make the 40 goals gap closer, but seems like this season is another throw away season anyway. So might as well building for the next season.
He alone won't make the 40 goals gap closer, but seems like this season is another throw away season anyway. So might as well building for the next season.
Are there any sources linking us to him or is it more of a wishful thinking from the caf?
how good is he at defending - Leicester City weren't exactly tight at the back last year and you can't judge him on a few games, mainly against Championship level opposition
he's a Vidic style player - you'd expect him to be in that bracket for 60 million
for reference, Liverpool recently bought VVD who looks a classy defender who can defend as well as use the ball
he's a Vidic style player - you'd expect him to be in that bracket for 60 million
for reference, Liverpool recently bought VVD who looks a classy defender who can defend as well as use the ball
For the prices quoted, I’d go for Bonnuci. Like Jose said himself, he’s also relying in the “evolution” of the players...so the like of Lindelof and Bailly have to step up. I refuse to believe Lindelof will be as bad as he was last year. Bonucci would give our defence the Laurent Blanc treatment. Help guide some of our other youngsters
But if we can get rid of Jones and say have to pay an extra £20mnfor Maguire, maybe it’d be worth it.
But if we can get rid of Jones and say have to pay an extra £20mnfor Maguire, maybe it’d be worth it.
honestly I think it a fallacy to say Lindelof was poor last season. He'd a shaky start but I thought he looked dependable after that feck up.at Huddersfield
Maguire struck me as a Jones type player but in fairness Ive only seen him play about 8/9 times
If you read some reports Spurs are interested in Maguire. Toby is a fantastic player no doubt but I’d rather let Spurs keep Toby and take Maguire. This guy has the potential to be a monster defender. Good attitude too, you can see it.
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I do agree about Lindelof, he wasn’t as bad as he was made out to be. I just never understood Jose’s insistence on choosing Jones & Smalling when fit. I don’t mind Smalling but Jones was at fault for a few goals.
Spot on. Mourinho looks for attitude and Maguire has a great attitude, it stands out a mile in the pitch and in interviews.
£10m or £15m more and you probably get Skriniar or Koulibaly wich i think is much better at tackling, has more pace and is better on the ball.
If we want a tall defender wich has average technique and average passing the ball, but is a good header of the ball and can score the odd goal and is slow. We already have a player like that - Smalling.
If we want a tall defender wich has average technique and average passing the ball, but is a good header of the ball and can score the odd goal and is slow. We already have a player like that - Smalling.
Not sure why people are so underwhelmed by Maguire. And it has to be said people were saying the same about Stones.
Maguire would be brilliant here.
Maguire would be brilliant here.
Maguire's passing and technique are excellent for a CB....they are massive plus points for him. The comparison with Smalling has been done to death but what most people agree on is that he's miles better with the ball
He's also a leader.
I’d prefer to try get the best out of Bailly and Lindelof, who I rate higher than Maguire as footballers.
Seems an odd target given what we have within the squad at the moment.
Seems an odd target given what we have within the squad at the moment.
Isn't he a bit cack in defending though?
I haven't seen any reports that they're interested - I've heard they were interested in that young defender from Ajax.
Spurs won't be buying Maguire, he's too expensive for them.
is there anyone on here who has watched him regularly enough able to comment on his defensive ability
I haven't seen him more than 8 or 9 times and I wouldn't say he's any better from a defensive standpoint than Jones/Smalling
for 60 million plus should we be aiming higher?
I haven't seen him more than 8 or 9 times and I wouldn't say he's any better from a defensive standpoint than Jones/Smalling
for 60 million plus should we be aiming higher?
They spent 40 million on Davinson Sanchez, if they think he has potential then they will buy.
He's strong in the tackle, good in the air but flat footed and can gets turned too easily by players with pace. That and his passing and ability to step out and dribble makes him ideal for a 3 at the back system.
That said, he won Leicester's player's player of the year and fan's player of the year award playing in a two. So he can't be that bad given those that watch and play with him every week think he's their best player.
Maguire will cost more and he was a stage further on with his contract earnings than Sanchez was when Spurs signed him. You'd be looking at £50m and £100k a week+ with Maguire.
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He has mistake or two in him nothing which can't be worked upon but he doesn't seem like absolute top talent to me and doesn't fit the profile we should look at if we are adding another Cb i.e either a experienced leader or absolute elite prospect , for the price which might be required to prise him away from leicester city we should set our sight higher.
I'd love him in a United shirt. Hope there is some truth in the rumours.
Smalling is a better defender and faster, possibly better in the air as well. Reading of the game, leadership and skill on the ball are areas he’s much better than Smalling.
So depends on what you like in your defenders....
Here's an interesting article from Paul Scholes column in 2015, questioning the signing of Vidic and Evra.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-out-of-their-depth-now-they-are-9966602.html
Sometimes players just need time to make it - or coaches, just ask Ferguson!
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-out-of-their-depth-now-they-are-9966602.html
Sometimes players just need time to make it - or coaches, just ask Ferguson!
If we wanted ball playing CB so much then it's surprising that we didn't even try to sign de Vrij on free transfer.
This would be a brilliant signing.
On paper, he's Bailly's perfect partner. What Bailly lacks in heading ability and distribution is made up through Maguire's biggest strengths. On the other hand, Bailly has that pace that Maguire lacks. I look at Maguire and see Jones + heading and passing. He's also extremely comfortable as the left sided central defender, something that lets Smalling down somewhat.
Bringing in Maguire and binning off halfwits like Rojo and Lindelof wouldn't be a bad move at all. Smalling and Jones would be excellent cover.
On paper, he's Bailly's perfect partner. What Bailly lacks in heading ability and distribution is made up through Maguire's biggest strengths. On the other hand, Bailly has that pace that Maguire lacks. I look at Maguire and see Jones + heading and passing. He's also extremely comfortable as the left sided central defender, something that lets Smalling down somewhat.
Bringing in Maguire and binning off halfwits like Rojo and Lindelof wouldn't be a bad move at all. Smalling and Jones would be excellent cover.
If we really want yet another CB then I'd rather Maguire than someone like Bonucci or Alderweireld. He's at a better age, is comfortable playing on the left of a back two and three and we won't have to deal with Levy.
It needs to be said though that spending even more money on this position will be a damming indictment of the Bailly and Lindelof signings. £30m each and not only do they end up behind Jones and Smalling but Mourinho wants to spend even more money pushing them down the pecking order.
It needs to be said though that spending even more money on this position will be a damming indictment of the Bailly and Lindelof signings. £30m each and not only do they end up behind Jones and Smalling but Mourinho wants to spend even more money pushing them down the pecking order.
Why the hell is him being English a factor to buy him?
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