I'd love it if this were true, especially if it meant Jones or Rojo were leaving.
Maguire | NOT McGuire or MacGuire
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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I think the media has zero idea of what United are interested in. If we're even in anyone at all.
Maguire is slow though in an out and out race, on the turn and far from the most mobile. That will see him exposed. By contrast, name an attribute you’d want in. Think the price Liverpool paid is largely irrelevant. Transfer fees nowadays are almost impossible to justify. If a player does the business he is worth it regardless of price, if he doesn’t he’s not. Imo if we had the chance to sign either at the two prices, I’d take VVD all day personally.
If Maguire wants to move (I wouldn't if I were him) you won't ultimately have a choice either.
VVD is quick. Having watched loads of him when he was at his best at Southampton I’d not say concentration was an issue. When he wanted to leave, yes, because he didn’t care!!
I think he’s a similar level to Jones without needing to go to the glue factory. So really, he’s not an upgrade as-such and I think we should steer clear. I can’t see it happening anyway.
Hello everyone, I know we maybe need other positions covering or filling before signing another defender but this has all the makings of an investment. THis guy has developed massively over the last 3 years and if that continues it's much better we get him than a rival.
It would be awful to see him at city (Kompany isn't a full season defender) or at Spurs if they are considering letting Toby Alderweireld go. Maguire has just performed excellently on the biggest stage of all. Let's do it.
It would be awful to see him at city (Kompany isn't a full season defender) or at Spurs if they are considering letting Toby Alderweireld go. Maguire has just performed excellently on the biggest stage of all. Let's do it.
Every club that sells its best players is "bullied". Although it is a bs term to begin with. It's just all business and United is on top of the food chain whereas Leicester is somewhere way down with all due respect.
Let say I am not against this. But what role of the CB partnership he would play? He is a stopper as far as I see. Smalling, Bailly, Jones, Rojo are stopper. Most of our partnership between these players failed because when these guys were tried as sweeper, they ain't always great at reading the play, but rather chasing ball carrier. Football is not played on paper and player can change/improve but the point is if we're to spend big, shouldn't we try to get one natural fit the profile than buying and hoping?
Like him since his Hull days, this world cup showed he can be a leader in a decent team (better than Leicester) I think he could make a step up to a bigger club (top6) but we would need to ship out AT LEAST one of Jones/Rojo if we ever decide to sign him
He's not a stopper, too good on the ball on the ball to be played in that role. That's not to say he's not tough and good in the air, but he's the one carrying the ball out of defence, taking it off the keeper. He'd actually compliment all of the above.
Vvd is slow to get going and his concentration is an issue.
What's your take on Maguire now?
He has been playing that role forever... Being good on ball doesn't mean anything, it's how one's attribute, preferred style of (defensive) play that matters and Maguire has been a stopper.
But they made City jump through hoops to sign Mharez.
He also has three years left on his contract, there's no way Leicester asks for less than VVD.
That's how English football works these days. Southampton etc are all mini Levy's
He's as much, if not more, of a liability as Jones is, he'd be an asset for us for his aerial ability and his forward bursts but we need defensively reliable defenders and for the price we'd have to pay for him he's not worth it.
He good enough that I could understand us being interested, not so good that I have a clear opinion on how he'd work out as a signing.
Him and Bailly would be good combo imo. Even him and Smalling would probably be fine.
Jones or Rojo to be sold, Lindelof loaned out.
Matic as emergency CB if injuries happen.
Jones or Rojo to be sold, Lindelof loaned out.
Matic as emergency CB if injuries happen.
My impression was they bought Evans and the lad from Porto to play a 3-5-2 as well.
We already have too many CBs. We can sell Blind and another CB and still be good numbers wise. And Maguire would not be a significant improvement anyway.
He is a good player but he is being a tad overrated. He is not that different a player to what he was at Hull.
They may have, but Mahrez was sold for quite a bit less than VVD - the world's most expensive CB. And Mahrez is a miles better player than Maguire.
If Maguire would like to leave and a club wants to buy him it'd be madness to see much more than City paid for their defenders. You're looking at a Stones-Laporte fee rather than equalling the record for a CB.
Stones was a world record and Laporte doesn't come from a rich, English club.
He only joined a year ago, there's no chance Leicester will be reasonable about a move. They could keep him for a year and invite an auction without losing a penny.
He's exactly the kind of player Liverpool would have bought pre-Klopp.
I’d like to see United get him. Get rid of Jones.
I would love him here. He was the dominant one out of the English defence at the World Cup whoever he played with or against.
I wanted to bully Spurs into giving us Alderweireld but now I want to bully Leicester into giving us Maguire so I'm conflicted. What to do, what to do...
Bid £70million for Varane, The outstanding defender of the world cup, 4 time champions league winner, Pacy, Cool , Calm, very good in the air.
Talk about the best ball playing defender in this world cup, name one better than him, Maybe Godin but I digress.
We missed out on him because Fergie decided to go with the English prodigy Phil Jones, How did that work out for us, Until I see Maguire do it in the Champions league or help Leicester into a top 6 Position in the premier league, I will have my reservations about him. Good games against Tunisia, Panama, and Sweden will not convince me that he can do the same against the potent attacks of teams like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juventus etc. The whole English defence crumbled in the second half against both Colombia and Croatia once they started moving the ball around quicker so I feel that he will be exposed against the better teams in the Champions league.
Also good to know that Jose signed Varane for Madrid and has a great relationship with him and also spoke very highly of him in his punditry job and he could be available because Madrid have to replace Ronaldo and you have to imagine that for them Neymar and Mbappe are in play and they will cost over £200 million each so they will have to raise the money somehow and Florentino Perez has never really cared much about defenders
Talk about the best ball playing defender in this world cup, name one better than him, Maybe Godin but I digress.
We missed out on him because Fergie decided to go with the English prodigy Phil Jones, How did that work out for us, Until I see Maguire do it in the Champions league or help Leicester into a top 6 Position in the premier league, I will have my reservations about him. Good games against Tunisia, Panama, and Sweden will not convince me that he can do the same against the potent attacks of teams like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juventus etc. The whole English defence crumbled in the second half against both Colombia and Croatia once they started moving the ball around quicker so I feel that he will be exposed against the better teams in the Champions league.
Also good to know that Jose signed Varane for Madrid and has a great relationship with him and also spoke very highly of him in his punditry job and he could be available because Madrid have to replace Ronaldo and you have to imagine that for them Neymar and Mbappe are in play and they will cost over £200 million each so they will have to raise the money somehow and Florentino Perez has never really cared much about defenders
I see many comments about him being ‘another overrated Englishman’, or he’s ‘better than Jones and Smalling’. It seems English is automatically sub-par. If anyone is overrated in here, it’s Bailly, the one who nobody is saying Maguire is better than. Bailly is no more a top centre half than Maguire is, and has massive question marks over him too. Whereas Smalling is easily our strongest centre half, and has been for years.
Personally I'd be delighted with him, he is already as good as what we have with the potential to be better in time.
If you look back I've been a big advocate of buying Maguire for along time. Same with VVD.
Should be getting rid of Rojo and Jones if we're getting Maguire in.
The days of having old fashioned stoppers are all long gone. Same way full backs now are many teams sole attacking width, game has evolved. Central defenders need to be comfortable with the ball. Maguire is not and never has been a stopper. To call him that is to do a disservice to his game. He may look like an old fashioned stopper, but if you actually watch him play, it's clearly evident he isn't.
I question whether you watch him enough then.
For Hull and Leicester, he was the one who is to go to stop the ball carrier. Step out of of the CB partnership to win header while Curtis Davis and Morgan majority to sweep behind. Him winning the ball helps with his style to since likes to get on the ball and initialize attack.
England plays 3 at the back and the sweeper is Stones with both sides CBs were allowed to go out and try to stop opposition play.
Edit: what is an old fashioned stopper? As if there is modern one. Long gone? As in no competition football last couple days?
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Any links to him at all?
Only paper chit chat.
Like a few others in the England set up;he needs to move to a bigger club to push on.
Nope. Just the expected 2+2 bollox.
Reading between the lines, a story about United wanting him is closely followed by stories that Leicester are offering him a new contract. Sounds like his agent doing his job.
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