Can someone put together all the highlights from the matches that’s resulted in him being club player of the season (5 years out of 7 I think) rather than analysing a few moments from just one game?
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To much money for him.. are the foxes daft enough to think we pay 80 million for him...haha..go in for mina the Columbian, had just as good world cup, younger and wants out of Barca, also around the 35million marker..throw 45 million at alderwierld..2 cb for same price?
I've only seen £50M, £65M and £70M being quoted.
I wonder how many hours of footage of mistakes I could get of Jones, Smalling or Rojo, taken out of context. And that’s in our team that defends with 10 men behind the ball, rather than a Leicester team that often gets caught light after over committing.
As we’re just picking out random clips. (I actually had multiple jones own goals to choose from.)
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God how I wish we would use that money to finally get a good right winger
None of Smalling
Given the money we have, we should be going for both.
Its funny you say that when Maguire was the main culprit of that for England
I’ve seen you in about 5 threads talking about Maguire. You seem slightly obsessed.
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He's literally just walking around on Liverpool's first - he doesn't track Mane's first run either when he goes in behind or then comes short to receive the ball, nor Salah's run in behind afterwards. He is out of position when the ball gets played in to Salah. Plus, even once Salah has got the ball in the penalty box, he is still just walking around not even attempting to get back and make a tackle. His positioning is out of line for the ball in to Mane as well.
I wasn't just "picking out random clips" though - whenever I watch Maguire, for Leicester or England, he gets caught out defensively at least once, usually more, in a way which would be slammed if he was playing for United. All I did before my previous post was think to myself "I wonder how Maguire did when playing against Liverpool", and it was no shock to me when I subsequently saw that he had a bad time of it. He messed up for one of the goals in their first league meeting with them last season as well, see below. The difference is, with Maguire rather than even Jones, is I'd say it would be more challenging to find a match where Leicester conceded and he didn't make a big screw-up somewhere, than a match when either Leicester kept a clean sheet or he was solid.
See also Liverpool's 3rd goal in their first match of the season vs Liverpool (at 4:50 in the Extended Highlights at the bottom):
http://www.goalsarena.org/en/video/...ague/23-09-2017-leicester-city-liverpool.html
Announce him already
No I just watch some football, how old are you?
Should I get Maguire on the new away shirt or Slabhead?
Salah and Mane are Liverpool's wingers. The primary person responsible for marking them will be the Leicester full backs, not Maguire. For Liverpool's first goal it's their left back who lets Salah get in ahead of him and then dives in and fails to win the ball who is at fault. On Mane's disallowed goal the right back almost messes up the offside trap that the rest of the Leicester defenders are playing but he gets it right in the end and Mane is caught offside. Maguire's defending in both cases was perfectly fine.
Lure Varane and Umititi from Madrid and Barca ? You can't be serious.
These 2 are considered the defense future for both la Liga Giants. They won't be sold for whatever price.
Christ, so if Alderweireld is almost Jose's bottom choice, Maguire must be down there too at this point 
Too many supporters think Football Manager is realistic.
This
65m is worth it just so I don’t have to be subjected to Smalling and co pass the ball sideways to each other at the back before we try to lump it long to Lukaku and lose the ball.
Just watch the Brighton game where the opposition press all our defenders except Smalling and see how poor our build up was, we lost that game because they targeted our weaknesses so easily. Maguire used to be a midfielder, it’s invaluable to have a guy who doesn’t immediately panic when pressed and can actually bring the ball forward and start attacks
Edit: also see quotes from this article - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/...news/harry-maguire-more-just-defender-1185128
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RedCafe has taken bad turn after we opened the floodgates for membership. Too much fans and too little supporters.
RedCafe has taken bad turn after we opened the floodgates for membership. Too much fans and too little supporters.
I'm not English but I will not and can't understand some of the posters that don't see the value in Manchester United being the destination/home of the best English talent. It's in the club's DNA and should always be.
What's the point otherwise? Become one of those soulless giants like Real and Barcelona to a lesser degree (they have vastly improved in recent years) or other lesser teams that are mostly identified because of their spending and hype rather than history and ethos? We've already lost a lot of that shine with Froggie leaving.
The only teams in the pantheon have stuck with that local spine have done pretty well for themselves: Bayern and Juventus.
What's the point otherwise? Become one of those soulless giants like Real and Barcelona to a lesser degree (they have vastly improved in recent years) or other lesser teams that are mostly identified because of their spending and hype rather than history and ethos? We've already lost a lot of that shine with Froggie leaving.
The only teams in the pantheon have stuck with that local spine have done pretty well for themselves: Bayern and Juventus.
@Yellow Black & Red should get an instant promotion. Funny to see people still trying blow against the facts and evidence. Maguire is not fit for our level of aspirations (his abysmal defending and lack of pace) and some seem can't accept it for some reason.
You must be trolling. A handful of examples from one or two games isn’t exactly solid evidence
I said earlier I watched a lot of Leicester games last season, and those examples are not exclusive...A lot of the times he gets away with mistakes as opposition simply fails to capitalise but he commits a lot of defensive errors. He looks flashy with the ball though you can't take it away.
I bet you didn't watch more than 4-5 games of Leicester from last season?
Drop your pants and let’s measure them then. I watched 12 Leicester games last season, and extended highlights of all other games.
I have also watched Smalling, Jones and Rojo consistency over the past few years. The amount of times the opposition didn’t capitalise on mistakes from those players is ridiculous.
As things stand, Maguire is an upgrade on Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Lindelof and Tuanzebe. I’d say he’s a similar level to Bailly, but Bailly isn’t reliable as he struggles to stay fit for a long stretch of games.
I don't think that people have problems with us having the best English talent. The argument is that sometimes best English talent isn't enough for a club of our aspirations.
Nah in this place someone watches a player 2/3 times and tells you how much better they are than what we have. See Michael Keane, Lindelof, Aurier and Darmian. Over the past two seasons or so people with limited knowledge of them convinced us they were the real deal.
Maguire walks in and it's not even close.
Well if you watched them as you say and still concluded that he's a worthy investment at £70M simply because he's tad better than Jones or Rojo than there's nothing much to say from my side.
Remember the opening game against Arsenal? Directly at fault for two goals (including the winner for Arsenal) as well as other episodes where was constantly caught flat-footed and if not for Arsenal's terrible finishing his highlight reel would have been even more damning.
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Exactly Pickford might be the best English keeper but is not good enough for a club like Manchester United. Would be happy to have the Kanes and the Walkers though
No one's saying we have mediocre players just because they're English, but the ones who are actually good enough we should be signing, it's what we should be all about.
Let’s forget Maguire and sign Ramos, Pique, Silva or Godin.
Agree on this one, we always used to have the crop of the british talent mixed perfectly with youth, experience and players capable of unexpected magic.
Bayern pick up the best young german talent, we used to do similar with british but lately we have seen players move to other teams that you can't help but wonder Fergie would have signed. I mean his last signing for us was a young english talent in Zaha who never got a chance under Moyes.
Would not mind us signing Maguire and I hope next summer we will be in for Sessegnon and Tierny
Pretty much. Grass is greener syndrome based on 10 mins of clips from youtube or 1 match alone.
Also see Perisic, Matic, Mane, Firmino etc as players who people didn’t rate at all but ended up being very good players.
The lesson is people just have no idea, if people are saying Maguire is terrible it’s easily as likely that those guys are wrong
Not everyone. For example everyone from that list I thought looked good at their previous clubs and posted about them, other than not being a fan of us paying huge amounts for Perisic last season at his age and Matic didn't look that great at Benfica to me.
That's where you lost credibility. If Maguire is a similar level to Bailly then he is a similar level to our other cb's. Bailly usually gets a pass from criticism because of age but he is of a similar level to Smalling and Jones.
That being said I want Maguire because he brings what our other cb's dont. Get rid of Rojo, Jones add Maguire, not because I think he is better but because of his on the ball abilities. He is also perfect cause he dominates in the air so in a situation where is paired with either one of Bailly or Lindelof he would compensate for their weakness in the air.
Maguire seems like the calm composed defender that we need to compliment Bailly.
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