Maguire | NOT McGuire or MacGuire

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That's where you lost credibility. If Maguire is a similar level to Bailly then he is a similar level to our other cb's. Bailly usually gets a pass from criticism because of age but he is of a similar level to Smalling and Jones.

That being said I want Maguire because he brings what our other cb's dont. Get rid of Rojo, Jones add Maguire, not because I think he is better but because of his on the ball abilities. He is also perfect cause he dominates in the air so in a situation where is paired with either one of Bailly or Lindelof he would compensate for their weakness in the air.

Fair points. We dont need someone dominant in the air all the time, but if Smalling is unavailable for some reason he'd certainly make up for Bailly and Lindelof
 
That's where you lost credibility. If Maguire is a similar level to Bailly then he is a similar level to our other cb's. Bailly usually gets a pass from criticism because of age but he is of a similar level to Smalling and Jones.

That being said I want Maguire because he brings what our other cb's dont. Get rid of Rojo, Jones add Maguire, not because I think he is better but because of his on the ball abilities. He is also perfect cause he dominates in the air so in a situation where is paired with either one of Bailly or Lindelof he would compensate for their weakness in the air.

Bailly is a better player than Smalling and Jones.

I think if most fans could chose one out of those three to start for United, they’d pick Bailly.

They wouldn’t put Bailly on the bench, would they?
 
England's defense was not calm and composed when teams really attacked them. That went out of the window

Well tbh he was partnered with Walker who is not even a CB and Stones is bit iffy tbh. Not to mention they didn't get much protection from their midfield either.
 
Bailly is a better player than Smalling and Jones.

I think if most fans could chose one out of those three to start for United, they’d pick Bailly.

They wouldn’t put Bailly on the bench, would they?

And like I said they would because he is younger and can potentially be great whilst Smalling and Jones don't look like they will ever kick on.
 
Well tbh he was partnered with Walker who is not even a CB and Stones is bit iffy tbh. Not to mention they didn't get much protection from their midfield either.

While thats true, I think those are the exact situations where you'd want a calm and composed player. And there wont be much more protection at United.
 
And like I said they would because he is younger and can potentially be great whilst Smalling and Jones don't look like they will ever kick on.

Agreed.

We’ll never win the league again with Smalling, Jones or Rojo being our first choice CBs. It just won’t happen.

If I had to keep one just to be a reliable member of the squad, it would probably be Smalling over the other two.
 
Here’s a YouTube clip of both Smalling AND Maguire #evidence :lol:


Thought people argue Maguire's defending skills here?

If you actually bothered watching that game you would know that Maguire was at fault for their first goal and multiple other goalscoring opportunities.



2:00 - If not for famous Lukaku first touch that is a goal.

5:10 - Overcommits and leaves the defense exposed and Martial should be scoring there.
 
Here’s a YouTube clip of both Smalling AND Maguire #evidence :lol:



Smalling was badly injured at this moment and was staying on the pitch to help out them team as there were no subs.
 
Smalling was badly injured at this moment and was staying on the pitch to help out them team as there were no subs.
He obviously doesn't watch our games let alone any of the Leicester ones. Another empty talker.
 
Every mistake?

Can you provide 3 from last season?

5 from his career?

Go ahead.

You don’t think Chris Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career? :lol: He makes about 5 every game when he gives the ball away, misses a tackle or fails to make the correct pass. 5 in his whole career? Seriously? :lol:

This should count as 5...

 
You don’t think Chris Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career? :lol: He makes about 5 every game when he gives the ball away, misses a tackle or fails to make the correct pass. 5 in his whole career? Seriously? :lol:

This should count as 5...



So the answer is you cannot list 3 mistakes from last season, or 5 from his career? You provided 1 that didnt even give away a chance. Good job
 
So the answer is you cannot list 3 mistakes from last season, or 5 from his career? You provided 1 that didnt even give away a chance. Good job

Wait, I’m half considering spending the next 20 minutes on YouTube pulling up a ton of Chris Smalling mistakes. I have 2 questions though:

1 - do you genuinely not think that clip shows a mistake?
2 - do you genuinely not think Chris Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career?

This is great fun, by the way.
 
You don’t think Chris Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career? :lol: He makes about 5 every game when he gives the ball away, misses a tackle or fails to make the correct pass. 5 in his whole career? Seriously? :lol:

This should count as 5...



You can find videos like that for every defender. Whilst I don't think Smalling is perfect, but you're over exaggerating stuff about him.
 
Wait, I’m half considering spending the next 20 minutes on YouTube pulling up a ton of Chris Smalling mistakes. I have 2 questions though:

1 - do you genuinely not think that clip shows a mistake?
2 - do you genuinely not think Chris Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career?

This is great fun, by the way.

How about you do some research? I made lots of posts about it at the time, this isnt recent. Maybe you just saw it recently on youtube? But yes Ashley Young has Maguire and doesn't track him. Smalling shouldnt be on the pitch because of his injury but is trying anyway, but its not his man.

Smalling has made a lot less mistakes than any of our other CBs. I dont know the number. But I knew you had done no research whatsoever and werent going to put any time into researching what you were saying is true. You are too lazy and if you spent several hours trying to find 5 clips of Smalling making defensive mistakes, I believe you'd end up with about 4 that were someone or multiple other people's mistakes and you wouldnt understand why so you'd post them too.

I hope you do find the time to go and find 5 mistakes, according to your accounts it'll be very easy because you could find it in just 1 match. Then you'll expose how little you know about defending. So go ahead
 
Maguire is very cool & collected on the ball & has the green light at Leicester to move forward when he sees an opportunity.
Do you think that Jose would play him that way ?
No point paying 75m and not utilizing him properly.
 
You can find videos like that for every defender. Whilst I don't think Smalling is perfect, but you're over exaggerating stuff about him.

I’m not over exaggerating. Read the thread (I know there’s a lot of posts).

I think Maguire is better than Smalling, but I prefer Smalling to Jones and Rojo. He’s ok.

But there are people on this forum who are using a handful of YouTube videos to prove their wider point, and who don’t believe Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career.

It’s either utterly delusional or it’s top trolling. 5 mistakes in his whole career?!

It’s a classic case of someone making a ridiculous claim, someone calling them out on it, and the response being “prove me wrong”.

Don’t you just love forums?
 
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Shaw
got stick for looking out of shape...
 
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How about you do some research? I made lots of posts about it at the time, this isnt recent. Maybe you just saw it recently on youtube? But yes Ashley Young has Maguire and doesn't track him. Smalling shouldnt be on the pitch because of his injury but is trying anyway, but its not his man.

Smalling has made a lot less mistakes than any of our other CBs. I dont know the number. But I knew you had done no research whatsoever and werent going to put any time into researching what you were saying is true. You are too lazy and if you spent several hours trying to find 5 clips of Smalling making defensive mistakes, I believe you'd end up with about 4 that were someone or multiple other people's mistakes and you wouldnt understand why so you'd post them too.

I hope you do find the time to go and find 5 mistakes, according to your accounts it'll be very easy because you could find it in just 1 match. Then you'll expose how little you know about defending. So go ahead

Great way to dodge answering two very simple questions.

1 - do you genuinely not think that clip shows a mistake?
2 - do you genuinely not think Chris Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career?
 
How about you do some research? I made lots of posts about it at the time, this isnt recent. Maybe you just saw it recently on youtube? But yes Ashley Young has Maguire and doesn't track him. Smalling shouldnt be on the pitch because of his injury but is trying anyway, but its not his man.

Smalling has made a lot less mistakes than any of our other CBs. I dont know the number. But I knew you had done no research whatsoever and werent going to put any time into researching what you were saying is true. You are too lazy and if you spent several hours trying to find 5 clips of Smalling making defensive mistakes, I believe you'd end up with about 4 that were someone or multiple other people's mistakes and you wouldnt understand why so you'd post them too.

I hope you do find the time to go and find 5 mistakes, according to your accounts it'll be very easy because you could find it in just 1 match. Then you'll expose how little you know about defending. So go ahead

I think you are right about Smalling not making as many errors as our other CB's but to say he has less than 5 mistakes in his whole career is a bit of a stretch no? in those terms he should be the best CB in the world, for as far as i know Maldini must have made at least 6 mistakes in his entire career ( 20 years).

Also, i dont think youtubers would spend time making videos of 'top 5 mistakes by smalling' just saying!

I dont think the hate in here for smalling is for his mistakes, its because of his intelligence. He doesnt seem to understand what to do with the ball at his feel its like hot potatoes!
 
If we sign Maguire. It will be Maguire and Smalling starting. Bailey will be the one starting on bench.
 
If we sign Maguire. It will be Maguire and Smalling starting. Bailey will be the one starting on bench.

Its unlikely any of them will be guaranteed starters. Jose will simply go with whoever is fit and in the best form at the moment imo.
 
Its unlikely any of them will be guaranteed starters. Jose will simply go with whoever is fit and in the best form at the moment imo.
If all fit for match day, Maguire and Smalling will start I think.
 
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Shaw
got stick for looking out of shape...

Had to quote and google search because his girls looks good. But he looks fine shirtless, he’s lean and trim. He’s not great aesthetic looking but he no where near bad as Shaw.
 
Great way to dodge answering two very simple questions.

1 - do you genuinely not think that clip shows a mistake?
2 - do you genuinely not think Chris Smalling has made 5 mistakes in his whole career?

So you cant even name 3 mistakes from a player you claim makes 5 per match. Useless
 
I think you are right about Smalling not making as many errors as our other CB's but to say he has less than 5 mistakes in his whole career is a bit of a stretch no? in those terms he should be the best CB in the world, for as far as i know Maldini must have made at least 6 mistakes in his entire career ( 20 years).

Also, i dont think youtubers would spend time making videos of 'top 5 mistakes by smalling' just saying!

I dont think the hate in here for smalling is for his mistakes, its because of his intelligence. He doesnt seem to understand what to do with the ball at his feel its like hot potatoes!

I havent said that. And I agree with what you have said. Thats where the hatred comes from, but it then extends to blaming him for everything under the sun. Other people's mistakes, our style of football, etc.
 
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