Maguire | NOT McGuire or MacGuire

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Offside said:
People saying he’s not good enough just founded on complete rubbish. Honestly think people on here have some kind of aesthetic judgement that rules them. He’s a big lad therefore must be a useless lump. He’s an English centre-back therefore he’s another Phil Jones.
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I think it’s more that they think it’s just based on his WC performances there’s 2 seasons in the PL to back up his top play too.
 
JJ12 said:
I think it’s more that they think it’s just based on his WC performances there’s 2 seasons in the PL to back up his top play too.
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Two seasons where he was voted player of the year at his club both times. If people actually watched Football as well they’d know he was a standout in that Leicester team. Is the WC performance meant to be a fluke as well? He might turn out shite if we sign him but being so pessimistic before he’s even signed is ridiculous.
 
Offside said:
Two seasons where he was voted player of the year at his club both times. If people actually watched Football as well they’d know he was a standout in that Leicester team. Is the WC performance meant to be a fluke as well? He might turn out shite if we sign him but being so pessimistic before he’s even signed is ridiculous.
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People just never learn, I seem to recall many were strongly opposed the idea of signing Perisic last year, and look how that turned out after the WC.

Just keep the faith in Jose, majority of his signings have been a success.
 
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Kostov said:
It’s ok, you are right and I won’t write off Lindelöf. But that’s not the whole point.

Third summer in a row we are after a CB instead of trying to strengthen other positions. And the most painful things is, none out of Bailly and Lindelöf is established in the starting 11. We laughed at City about spending on CBs and we are even worse.
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What I’m trying to say is though perhaps our scouts saw something in Lindelöf. We think he’s a bit shit at the moment but can definitely see him stepping up in the next couple of years.
 
Massive Spanner said:
No but aren't they supposed to identify potential purchases? I struggle to comprehend the idea that after all this, our best options are Maguire and Willian at £120m+
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Maybe the alternatives aren't interested, their clubs don't want to sell or they don't fit the same way?
 
JPRouve said:
Maybe the alternatives aren't interested, their clubs don't want to sell or they don't fit the same way?
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Yup, maybe. Guess all we can do is speculate. Can't say I won't be disappointed if we do spend £65m on Maguire having already spent £70m on two CBs in the last two summers and not addressing our problem positions instead, though.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Yup, maybe. Guess all we can do is speculate. Can't say I won't be disappointed if we do spend £65m on Maguire having already spent £70m on two CBs in the last two summers and not addressing our problem positions instead, though.
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Can this post be pinned to the top of the thread.? 100%
 
Massive Spanner said:
No but aren't they supposed to identify potential purchases? I struggle to comprehend the idea that after all this, our best options are Maguire and Willian at £120m+
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Scouts aren’t going to be the source of every signing. Dalot will probably be a result of scouting and possibly even Fred.

Scouts will probably have given good reports on other players but there are many factors involved in completing a purchase.
 
edgar allan said:
Nobody wants the players that we are looking out. They are either too old, overrated or overpaid, or all three.
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So we should get rid at whatever the market rate is.
Looking at players we should offload wouldn’t say any are too old. Jones, Rojo, darmian.
Other options were fellaini pre contract signing, maybe Herrera.
Wages obviously the biggest stumbling block for the buying club but if that means £5m off the fee then so be it
 
He's a guy that will always be up for a fight, won't buckle under pressure. Sometimes these qualities are more important than pure technical ability.
 
So funny how people dream up numbers in their head and think we can just buy or sell at these imagined figures.

What if noone wants to buy Jones? Or noone who he would ever move to? A player will only be sold if a club pays us close to the internal valuation of the player and the player is ok with going to that club.
 
I feel really funny about this potential transfer. On one hand the patriot in me wants it to happen. His fitness record alone would be a major improvement having that consistency at the back. I do not feel he is a world beater though, for the price quoted it's nuts. I guess we have to absorb it giving he could likely give us 7+ years.

I do however think the fullbacks are a more pressing concern, and the money should be spent on Sandro
 
The Purley King said:
Wages obviously the biggest stumbling block for the buying club but if that means £5m off the fee then so be it
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It doesn't work like that. If a biggish club does not come in, the buying club simply wouldn't pay a wage that is close enough to be acceptable to a player who can earn more here. You can't just transfer a wage issue onto a lower fee.
 
sincher said:
It doesn't work like that. If a biggish club does not come in, the buying club simply wouldn't pay a wage that is close enough to be acceptable to a player who can earn more here. You can't just transfer a wage issue onto a lower fee.
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Yes you can do precisely that.
Buying club pays £x m less in transfer fee and pays that to the player instead.
 
sincher said:
So funny how people dream up numbers in their head and think we can just buy or sell at these imagined figures.

What if noone wants to buy Jones? Or noone who he would ever move to? A player will only be sold if a club pays us close to the internal valuation of the player and the player is ok with going to that club.
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I'm surprised no one talked about the status of our players contracts as a lot of our first team players contracts will expire next year, including Jones, Smalling, Mata, Herrera etc

https://www.transfermarkt.com/manchester-united/vertragsende/verein/985

This topic deserves to create a new thread as I reckon next summer will be a huge rebuild job if the club has no plans to renew their contracts
 
Not seen much of Maguire at the EPL but I'd be worried if we are going after him predominantly off his England performances.

I felt he was a good player but alongside Walker & Stones - got the defensive benefit of playing within a back 3.

I want us to play in a back 3 too but then I don't neccesarly thing he is the best option for that formation either.
 
-Supreme- said:
People just never learn, I seem to recall many were strongly opposed the idea of signing Perisic last year, and look how that turned out after the WC.

Just keep the faith in Jose, majority of his signings have been a success.
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We wouldn't need a new CB if this was the case
 
FrantikChicken said:
His CB signings are yet to be faliures. Did you expect Jones and Smalling to jump right in as starters when they first signed too?
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They aren't failures but that's why I wonder why we need to spend all that on a new CB so soon. And BTW Jones and Smalling were 20 and 19. Bailly and Lindelof are both one yea younger than Maguire so the age thing doesn't really work here
 
The Purley King said:
Yes you can do precisely that.
Buying club pays £x m less in transfer fee and pays that to the player instead.
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No, it doesn't work like that. Clubs are understandably never keen to break a wage structure, especially for a player like Jones who may not even be fit.

The naivete of our fans amazes me.
 
Greck said:
They aren't failures but that's why I wonder why we need to spend all that on a new CB so soon. And BTW Jones and Smalling were 20 and 19. Bailly and Lindelof are both one yea younger than Maguire so the age thing doesn't really work here
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Well, the fact is that we don't know if we're actually looking for a CB to begin with. And if we do sign someone, they might be coming in to replace Jones and/or Smalling rather than Jose's signings. Very few CBs are ready to lead a backline at a club with our stature at the age of 23-24
 
LennonNL said:
What I’m trying to say is though perhaps our scouts saw something in Lindelöf. We think he’s a bit shit at the moment but can definitely see him stepping up in the next couple of years.
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That’s fine, they might saw something. But we needed instant quality, and not a prospect really. We have our own youngsters, and could have used those money for strengthening the full backs positions, which is part of the point really. Awful planning and strategy.
 
As a Leicester City supporter I just can't see this happening whatever money is thrown at us.
Harry's on a four year contract and he's a level headed lad so can't see him throwing his toys out of the pram unlike a certain Mr Mahrez. The issue is that if we sell Harry now we've literally got no time to buy a replacement.
Relying on a 35 year old Wes Morgan and Johnny Evans until next January at least, is asking for trouble.
Can still seeing him going next season though unless we have another miracle season.
 
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The Purley King said:
So we should get rid at whatever the market rate is.
Looking at players we should offload wouldn’t say any are too old. Jones, Rojo, darmian.
Other options were fellaini pre contract signing, maybe Herrera.
Wages obviously the biggest stumbling block for the buying club but if that means £5m off the fee then so be it
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Clubs aren't going to smash their wage structures for average players even if we knock 5 million of the fee.
 
Stephen Wood said:
As a Leicester City supporter I just can't see this happening whatever money is thrown at us.
Harry's on a four year contract and he's a level headed lad so can't see him throwing his toys out of the pram unlike a certain Mr Mahrez. The issue is that if we sell Harry now we've literally got no time to buy a replacement.
Relying on a 35 year old Wes Morgan and Johnny Evans until next January at least, is asking for trouble.
Can still seeing him going next season though unless we have another miracle season.
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I read somewhere that you guys were lining up a €35m bid for another cb in France. Also sniffing around Ben Gibson

Did Huth leave?
 
Stephen Wood said:
As a Leicester City supporter I just can't see this happening whatever money is thrown at us.
Harry's on a four year contract and he's a level headed lad so can't see him throwing his toys out of the pram unlike a certain Mr Mahrez. The issue is that if we sell Harry now we've literally got no time to buy a replacement.
Relying on a 35 year old Wes Morgan and Johnny Evans until next January at least, is asking for trouble.
Can still seeing him going next season though unless we have another miracle season.
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How's about you can take Rojo with some money? If it meant getting rid of him, I'd be on board with this deal.
 
One of my favourites in the premier league.

Better in a back 3/5 though, are Man. United planning to play that this season? In a flat 4 he can get turned easily.

TBH when I first saw this link I just assumed you'd offer Phil Jones or even Lindelof to Leicester to get the fee more realistic e.g. value either of them at 15m. Is there any news on that as Man. United already have 5 CBs for 2 positions so adding another one unbalances things quite a bit.
 
Stephen Wood said:
As a Leicester City supporter I just can't see this happening whatever money is thrown at us.
Harry's on a four year contract and he's a level headed lad so can't see him throwing his toys out of the pram unlike a certain Mr Mahrez. The issue is that if we sell Harry now we've literally got no time to buy a replacement.
Relying on a 35 year old Wes Morgan and Johnny Evans until next January at least, is asking for trouble.
Can still seeing him going next season though unless we have another miracle season.
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Wasn't Dragovic signed full time? I remember him years ago as a good CB at Basle but not sure how well or not he did at Leicester last season.
 
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