Hopefully he hasn’t set his overall recovery back by trying to get fit too quick for England. I do think he should have gone on tour though, he’s missed so much time out injured even getting 15-20mins under his belt at the end of games would be worthwhile.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) get the depressing job of reviewing United's 3-0 loss at Old Trafford to Liverpool. They discuss what went wrong, Casemiro's day to forget, and the pressure now on Erik Ten Hag. They also take some time to give McTominay a proper farewell, and give their overall thoughts on the Summer Transfer Window.
I'm sure your first sentence is true. But it's not just about the short term as I said in an earlier post, mentally as much as physically, he needs to be given the best possible chance to last through the season (not just start it). And as for the suggestion that players with elite winning mentalities shouldn't/don't take holidays... okay.
I never said footballers with elite mentalities don't ever take holidays though, did I? If you've only played 150 minutes of football since February, maybe you could go one summer without a 3 week holiday.
No, but I don't know why you're quite so certain Shaw doesn't fall into that category? I think it's easy to underestimate how gruelling recovery can be, particularly from serious muscle injuries, when the work done/hours put in per day can at times far exceed the minutes of actual football played and standard training done.
Anyway. Hopefully he's back in training next week and is ready to go, if not for the Community Shield, then Fulham.
100% only a matter of time until he's out again
I'm preparing for the fact he'll miss 18+ league matches this season.
I'm preparing for the fact he'll miss 18+ league matches this season.
Just the thought of having to put in a 90 minute shift could inflict another injury.
If the established pattern is anything to go by- seasons18-19, 20-21, 22-23- we're due a good Luke Shaw season.... and then a bad or injury hit one the next year.
It seems we're not getting another left back which could be seen as risky but we're putting a lot of faith in Amass and Malacia being fit. Suppose Dalot can also be an emergency left back. I very much doubt EtH will play Shaw in the EL, it's just too much of a risk at this point, so only one game per week hopefully will help him in the long run.
It seems we're not getting another left back which could be seen as risky but we're putting a lot of faith in Amass and Malacia being fit. Suppose Dalot can also be an emergency left back. I very much doubt EtH will play Shaw in the EL, it's just too much of a risk at this point, so only one game per week hopefully will help him in the long run.
If he gets injured in the early part pf the season I think a lot of fans would be at the end of their patience with him. Me included.
You don't play for United since Feb. You go to an international tournament for a couple of 45 min appearances to then skip pre season with your club.
If that's followed by an injury in the first 15 games it's beyond frustrating.
You don't play for United since Feb. You go to an international tournament for a couple of 45 min appearances to then skip pre season with your club.
If that's followed by an injury in the first 15 games it's beyond frustrating.
Noise on twitter he's not ready/struggling to be fit to start on Saturday
That's not a surprise is it given that he came back to training a couple of days back? I always expected Amass to start the game on Saturday.
Here we go again.
Damn, i was nervous when I saw this bumped now because I thought he was injured again 
Yeah, didn't really see him, or anyone else returning from euros/copa break starting the weekend.
Yeah, didn't really see him, or anyone else returning from euros/copa break starting the weekend.
This made me chuckle. Images of you making a voodoo doll, a banner, or stocking up on things to chuck at the wall.
No reflection on you, just passing time on holiday!
As Claude from AFTV used to say: "Time To Go!"
People forgetting that he also had to have a 3 week holiday after the Euro final, and only came back to training a few days ago?
I know he missed most of last season and only played a couple of times in the euros, but it would still mean he's not match fit. Would be mental to send him out if he wasn't ready, given how prone he is to injuries already.
I know he missed most of last season and only played a couple of times in the euros, but it would still mean he's not match fit. Would be mental to send him out if he wasn't ready, given how prone he is to injuries already.
Picked another injury, Oh my god I am sick of this.
How many years left on his contract? 2 or 3 years?
It's a real fear
i mean just because you are on "vacation" doesnt mean you shouldnt come back in great shape. If injured then not surprised
It's gotten to the point where no matter how good he is, his fitness is too unreliable and it's costing us points.
Add to that Malacia has barely played a game since joining and when he has doesn't look like a game changer.
Just sell the pair now - Malacia didnt cost much and Shaw was only £27m many years ago. Buy a good left back, promote Amass and dont think about that position for a few years.
Imagine we had someone like Robertson playing every week, the amount of assists and build up play we are missing out on is ridiculous.
Add to that Malacia has barely played a game since joining and when he has doesn't look like a game changer.
Just sell the pair now - Malacia didnt cost much and Shaw was only £27m many years ago. Buy a good left back, promote Amass and dont think about that position for a few years.
Imagine we had someone like Robertson playing every week, the amount of assists and build up play we are missing out on is ridiculous.
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Sorry is he actually injured again or unfit? That’s insane.
You are clearly not allowed to post such sense in this thread
What about Mainoo, and Martinez and Garnacho (who played their final a day later).
He has 3 years left, his book value is zero, it would be wise to sell him now.
Not clear, but doesn't sound serious. From ETH at today's press conference.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ster-united-press-conference-29697097#3576829
What injury?
He’s back since Monday like Mainoo etc chill out. There is nothing wrong with him
Have I missed something ? Where did ETH say he was injured? All he said was he need to assess his fitness which makes sense considering he only returned from holidays this week. Feels like everyone is making a mountain out of a molehill. He said similar of Maguire, Lindelof and AWB yet everyone have taken it as them being injured.
Not surprising given what happened last season - see how we rushed Shaw back against Luton and injured him for 4 months. Pretty obvious he won’t be played on Saturday. Dalot and Wan-Bisakka would be my guess, or Amass if he’s seen as ready and Wan-Bisakka isn’t fit.
Unbelievable. Have to endure this for another 3 years?
I’ve been plenty relaxed with Shaw. I don’t need to chill out. I just thought if he was injured again that would be wild. Even not being ready for this doesn’t make much sense considering Martinez also came back the same day and is ready.
Everybody came back at the same time, everyone is ready, except him. It is too late to find a replacement for him this season, but we should consider him gone (either sold or in the treatment room) next year and plan to bring in someone who permanently occupies this spot. This shit has been ongoing for far too long.
anyone still counting Shaw as a squad member like he’s capable of giving a decent contribution over a season is a lost cause. Same those who kept expecting Martial to one day return to fitness. Or Jones.
Again pushing a narrative , ETH has also said Zirkzee is not as fit as the rest . He is just been cautious with Shaw .
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He hasn't.
ten Hag just said that he's questionable for Saturday and will be assessed tomorrow. Obviously he's not fit enough to play after only getting back into training earlier this week coming off a season where he was injured for most of it and played at the Euros when he wasn't 100%. It's only the Community Shield. He won't be rushed back.
Different case to everyone in that they were fit before the season ended were fit for most of the summer whereas Shaw was still pushing himself to get fit for Euros semi-final and final.
And therefore should be fit right? Unless you unfit yourself again.
Would be really strange and poor if Zirkzee isn't fit, but the likes of Mainoo/Martinez/Garnacho are. UNless injured, there is no reason to be less fit than others that joined later. You'd want to start flying at your new club, I'd hope. Let's see what happens on Saturday.
Zirkzee and Shaw were both injured in the end of last season, meaning its been a much longer time since they played regular football (actual games).. I can imagine that has impact in how quickly you are fully within rythm again.. Though I can image that holds less for Zirkzee who is younger and has less injury history than Shaw..
Is he just unfit or injured? I mean he’s spent all summer getting fit then plays 1 game which is the final and now he’s unavailable again for us? Getting the impression he just doesn’t like playing for us. A liability. Can not afford to play half this season without a specialist Lb again.