i think we should cut our losses. i'm sure with the inflation in the market, we can at least fetch 15 to 20M£ for him. we need a new left back as soon as january imo.
23
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 19
- Clean sheets
- 13
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 2
- Status
So not good then?
Don't think he has a hope in hell of making it at the club.
Yes, I watched the game specifically because I wanted to see how he is progressing. I have been one of those people who have defended him and are desperate for him to do well here but it is becoming impossible to defend him.
The West Ham players were just going right past him, he wasn't putting in any sort of challenges and he was running in slow motion. Maybe the worst of it was that when you have a player on the pitch who has over 90 Premier League appearances under his belt, you expect him to show some leadership especially when our defence was clearly inexperienced and struggling. He just looked disengaged.
Finished and makes the decision not to invest there quite bad.
If his attitude is bad then that's disappointing. He's young and has time on his side but a bad attitude isn't going to get him anywhere.
I'm not sure we'll get that much for him as he has not really played for 2-3 years now. But yes, a replacement in January would be great. The Napoli left back could be a good option for a January deal since his contract is running out in the summer. Other options like Tierney and Bertrand would be difficult to complete.
wtf...the last 30 posts or so slating Shaw are based on, no offence @BigBebe, an opinion from one person from one match most likely hardly anyone saw. Whilst I didn't see his performance the fact people are just chucking in the towel after one comment is a joke
No offence taken. It is all about opinions isn't it?
https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/manches...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Pretty disappointing if true. Here you are, a young English, given the golden opportunity to train, and play with one of the biggest team in Europe, with some of the best facilities, and yet you show this poor attitude. Such a shame...
Yeah, Ghoulam, his contract is up next year so would be quite a steal. if we could get him for 15/20M£ in January it would be perfect. i'm sure Napoli would bite our hand instead of losing him for free next year. he's only 26. he had 10 assists last year in 38 matches played which is not bad for a left back.
Could be curtains. Seems to lack the temperament to play for united. Cant deal with the pressure.
understand what you did there mate with the link (kudos to you as it was a good link) but it's still based on twitter feeds (not sure what you call them...tweets or twits???) / know it all opinion's rather than something coming from Jose or the club etc. Before that injury he was back on track so until the club sell him or pay him to leave, he's here for a reason - that's all I'm saying
Perhaps at the ripe old age of 40 in a few month's I'm for trusting the club on selling / writing off youth / current players..
I wouldn't take it that far tbh. I still remember Falcao looked like amateur in these reserve games and now he is back scoring goals for fun in French league. Jones toward the end of LVG looked done in similar circumstances. Last year he did well and now is our starter CB.
I know it wouldn't work for everyone, and expecting Shaw to soon getting to the level his early promise is unrealistically. He would need to do well to get back to first team acceptable level, that's for sure. However, writing him off now based on U23 games are pre mature.
I watched the full game. He actually looked good on the ball and he’s still lightening fast. But yeah, he didn’t really look arsed. He had more reason to bust a gut than any other player out there but spent most of the game literally walking around. He also looks heavier than I’ve ever seen him. Terribly disappointing indeed.
He’s shite and he’s always been shite. A terrible signing considering he’s always fat and injured.
If he keeps on packing on the pounds at this rate he’ll need to go even higher than 100kg to bench press his bodyweight!
A bit harsh mate, he was decent for southampton. He does have a big arse on him though
So gutted to be seeing the place turning sour on him. The second season with LvG looked like he was turning a corner then got cut short.
Very unfortunate that it's heading this way but now three managers have made comments about attitude / fitness / weight and that has to be the biggest indictment of the guy.
You would think he would be destroying gym equipment to keep in shape and taking these matches as spotlights to show what he can do. Surely as a pro he would look at Darmian being picked at LB against Liverpool and think, "Right, I'm sorting this!"
Unfortunately we don't know what's going on in his head but surely the time is coming where, as a club, they need to say it hasn't worked and move on.
Possibly look at a deal with him and Danyy Rose, or to somewhere else with a buy-back option.
Very unfortunate that it's heading this way but now three managers have made comments about attitude / fitness / weight and that has to be the biggest indictment of the guy.
You would think he would be destroying gym equipment to keep in shape and taking these matches as spotlights to show what he can do. Surely as a pro he would look at Darmian being picked at LB against Liverpool and think, "Right, I'm sorting this!"
Unfortunately we don't know what's going on in his head but surely the time is coming where, as a club, they need to say it hasn't worked and move on.
Possibly look at a deal with him and Danyy Rose, or to somewhere else with a buy-back option.
If his attitude is wrong then he should be sold.
If I'm a left back, I'd be looking at Darmian being not only ahead of me, but one of many ahead of me in he pecking order and be embarrassed.
What's the bets we hear in 10 years time Shaw come out with a interview saying he should of tried harder and worked harder to stay at a top club, rather than end up in the Championship (where he will at this rate).
If I'm a left back, I'd be looking at Darmian being not only ahead of me, but one of many ahead of me in he pecking order and be embarrassed.
What's the bets we hear in 10 years time Shaw come out with a interview saying he should of tried harder and worked harder to stay at a top club, rather than end up in the Championship (where he will at this rate).
Watched the game, he was fine and didn't see any attitude issues. Let's not forget it's a ridiculously poor U23 team that's bottom of the league so it's always limited what he can influence from LB. Still think there's a very good player in their and like Phil Jones, a proper run of games will make a big difference.
Reminding me of Michael Johnson’s situation at City; injury then subsequent mental health issues.
Like Shaw, Johnson was ‘fit’ to play but never seemed interested in grafting his way back into the team, and also looked annoyingly heavy too.
If he follows Johnson out of the game prematurely, and never manages to have any kind of career relative to his potential, it’ll be tragic for English football as both looked like Rolls Royce’s at a very early age.
Like Shaw, Johnson was ‘fit’ to play but never seemed interested in grafting his way back into the team, and also looked annoyingly heavy too.
If he follows Johnson out of the game prematurely, and never manages to have any kind of career relative to his potential, it’ll be tragic for English football as both looked like Rolls Royce’s at a very early age.
We got him for 30m. If we succeed in selling him for 15-20m I'll consider it a bargain.
Whatever that's true or not, a big team can't afford him a run of games where he's shite at till he remembers he's a footballer, with Blind and Young doing the job pretty fine for us.
The transfer just don't work out. It happens. He needs to find a club that can give him his chances and we need to move on to other more fit and better consistent LB.
He's currently just a waste of space.
Last edited:
Try get Spurs to take him & cash in exchange for Rose.
We've paid him 70k a week for 3 years though.
We've paid him 70k a week for 3 years though.
No thanks. Have people realized Shaw had played more first team football than Rose since Rose got that injury? I am not saying Shaw would definitely be the man to solve our problem, but the way Rose is we'd likely lose money and stuck at square one.
That's a good point actually. Rose has seemed to get injured quite a bit recently. He's been out for a while.
I mean by his record of injuries and form, this boy's price tag shouldn't even exceed 7-10m, so 15m for him will be a bargain.
This guy haven't played a proper good football match for 2 years and this is the 3rd one. This leg break injury has destroyed him once and for all, sadly enough.
I also recall many here saying Falcao was finished for a few poor games in the reserves.
He's up for Balon D'or this year.
Luke might not make it at United, but calling his career right now is silly.
He's up for Balon D'or this year.
Luke might not make it at United, but calling his career right now is silly.
Was expecting big things from Shaw, thought he would make the left back position his for at least a decade, like an English version of Evra, but it looks like it wasn't to be.
How many starts did Rooney got under Moyes and LVG again?
Edit: to make the point clear. I am disagreeing about players should be given stats not on merit, just because they are part of the first team. Falcao earned his starts for Monaco. If he had played like when he was with us and Chelsea for all those games when he's first back at Monaco, he would be on the bench. Monaco had a chance to run at the league title. They wanted to make sure they could capitalize it. They were no charity house and Falcao suddenly found his goal scoring instinct after tens of starts being unfit and being absolutely wank.
Last edited:
Why Jose did not buy a LB this summer, I do not know.
His apparent trust for Shaw seems to have backfired.
His apparent trust for Shaw seems to have backfired.
Time to cut our losses I think. Struggling with form is one thing but to still be unfit after all this time is inexcusable. Either he's got a genuine issue he may never get over or his attitude isn't right for a big club.
Isn't Guardiola looking to him as cover for Mendy? Wouldn't be surprised if he does end up at City in Jan.
Back on topic, very disappointing to hear the comments regarding Shaw. He's only 22 as well, he should have the footballing world at his feet. Instead seems to be pie and chips.
Who in their right mind would pay more than £5-10m for Shaw? With the upper figure being generous. Very generous.
No idea what's wrong with the guys attitude. He has talent. He's not even showing the basics.
Run, close down, track runner, put ball out of play. As a minimum he should be doing that. He's not. In any game at any level.
He's quick. Strong. Very talented. But If he can't manage the absolute basics then he's never going to command a double digit transfer fee again.
Those saying he has ever shown good form here need a reality check. He's had 3-5 good games in a United shirt and perhaps 1 at the level of Ashley Cole, Evra, Neville and their contemporaries. Even his absolute best set of games have fallen short of the best games from Walker, Rose, Valencia.
He is so damn talented. But he has shown close to nothing in a United shirt. Every time I see his name in a starting line up I fcuking WILL HIM to show up. He doesn't. It's ok if injuries have robbed him of his career. Tragic. But ok, understandable. But for people to even suggest he's shown enough is just fantasy.
Falcao had already proven he was world class before that injury. Shaw has done feck all till now.
And i'd also say that Falcao didn't have an attitude problem. he was always professional, trying his best, wanting to go back to the top. Shaw looks like he doesn't care anymore.
You cannot base anything on u23 games, its not competitive and very meaningless.
Shaw simply cannot be impressing Jose on the training ground, whether that's attitude, fitness or whatever...
The fact we play Young there, Darmian there, Blind there just highlights where we are at LB. Now all 3 can do a job there and will do they're best for the team, but Shaw is the ONLY natural LB and he is 4th choice.
I've been really vocal about not writing Shaw off and some of the comments here are extremely harsh. He's a talent, we paid 30mil for him when the market wasn't crazy by todays standard and he has the potential to be awesome BUT he isn't getting chances.
Think Jose just needs to give him a little run of games, then go from there. Only way he can be judged is by 1st team game time. Can't see Jose doing that however
Shaw simply cannot be impressing Jose on the training ground, whether that's attitude, fitness or whatever...
The fact we play Young there, Darmian there, Blind there just highlights where we are at LB. Now all 3 can do a job there and will do they're best for the team, but Shaw is the ONLY natural LB and he is 4th choice.
I've been really vocal about not writing Shaw off and some of the comments here are extremely harsh. He's a talent, we paid 30mil for him when the market wasn't crazy by todays standard and he has the potential to be awesome BUT he isn't getting chances.
Think Jose just needs to give him a little run of games, then go from there. Only way he can be judged is by 1st team game time. Can't see Jose doing that however
Same here, but I've given up on him now. Something is not right here, he is the only LB at the club and he is 4th choice. We need to bring a LB as soon as January.
- Status