There is a pool of strikers out there that I think will suit our team and that we would be interested in and thus be willing to spend on they are: Higuain, Benzema, Pato, Balotelli, Jevotic & finally Suraez.. If we were to get any of these I would be absolutely over the moon.. All of them can play wide in a 433 and in a 442 as well.. However of all those names the most likely to leave his club is Luis Suarez..
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I also think the style of play might determine how successful they are. Ruud was a fox-in-the-box kind of striker, and at a team like ours (United), we are always going to create chances.
Kezman relied quite a bit on his pace/skill but when he found the EPL defenders were much physically superior and better prepared defensively then the defenders in the Dutch league, he didn't have another weapon to hurt them with. I am thinking the same applied to Afonso Alves, but I speak under correction.
Suarez seems to be following a similar path as Kezman, but whether or not he will be able to adapt to the EPL's pace/superior defending remains to be seen. Will be quite a huge gamble for the amount of money being spoken about, but lets not forget that the "original" Ronaldo (El Phenomenon) came from PSV.
Huntelaar, I haven't followed that much but my initial reaction was that he wasn't really given mcuh of a opportunity at Madrid??
Kezman relied quite a bit on his pace/skill but when he found the EPL defenders were much physically superior and better prepared defensively then the defenders in the Dutch league, he didn't have another weapon to hurt them with. I am thinking the same applied to Afonso Alves, but I speak under correction.
Suarez seems to be following a similar path as Kezman, but whether or not he will be able to adapt to the EPL's pace/superior defending remains to be seen. Will be quite a huge gamble for the amount of money being spoken about, but lets not forget that the "original" Ronaldo (El Phenomenon) came from PSV.
Huntelaar, I haven't followed that much but my initial reaction was that he wasn't really given mcuh of a opportunity at Madrid??
Its great when a striker is versatile enough to play on the wing as well. But is Suarez going to keep Nani or Valencia out of the team when we play only 1 striker? No. He may be a very good striker for us, who knows before he tests his goalscoring against half decent opposition? But thats his lot because our wingers are better than him, plainly and simply.
Jovetic is just as likely to leave as Suarez, as Fiorentina cant offer him champions league football. The sticking point would be offering enough cash so Fiorentina cant refuse. We'd probably have to pay over the odds, exactly the same as with Suarez.
Most teams playing 4-3-3 do not use two out and out wingers like we do, so I think adding a player in that system that could offer a real goal threat would take the pressure off Rooney when it came to big games where we mostly use it.
Well if you're the one paying!
Haha fecker!
I'd rather Jovetic since he's more proven in Europe. And he's awesome.
Didn't he sign a new contract with Fiorentina?
If you consider that, you've got to consider the teams too, Huntelaar moved to a circus and played like one. Nuff said,
Afonso Alves moved to Boro FFS, scored against us and the other matches the whole Boro team were poor.
Kezman was never going to be a No.1 Striker with the Russian in Chelski, Sheva didn't make it, Anelka almost didn't make it, Carlton Cole didn't make it... Crespo didn't make it... So I can't blame Kezman....
Ruud moved to the right team, to the right environment and he certainly made it, kick Cole and Yorke out of the team and his debut season was magnificent.
If you consider skill wise + Read the mini report by the Ajax fans, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be considering other examples of elite players from the dutch league that didn't make it.
Robben did well, the Brazilian Ronaldo was from that league, Wesley just won a CL.... there are also good examples too so credit to Suarez, please judge him by his consistent form last season.
You look at a striker, the key attributes lets say Rooney, are off the ball/ Sense / pace / Finishing / Heading / Longshots / Flair if you consider Suarez I think he has them all.
I can't say for sure he'll suit us, going back to Berbs I was cumming my pants for him, but I'd say Suarez for 25m is a good deal and the prospect of him and Rooney linking up is like Rooney and Tevez but Suarez certainly looks capable of finishing much better than Tevez and he doesn't come with Kia Jooachim to tell him what to say to the press.
Suarez is a hell of a lot better than Kezman. But I dont think Fergie will splash out on him if we get Joe Cole as Cole can cover the flanks while Hernandez will cover the forwards!
apparently we cannot afford him
more like we dont want to pay over the odds anymore
he hasnt done much to command a 30m fee
he hasnt done much to command a 30m fee
No apparent about it.
Price haggling most likely.
This story originates from the daily star. Make of that what you will.
Its true. We cant afford another overpriced striker coming in and flopping.
Some dodgy reports in Germany yesterday were saying that Berbatov is McClarens number 1 priority at Wolfsburg if they sell Dzeko to city!!! - FOOTBALLpress.net news: GERMANY/ WOLFSBURG, Required Berbatov
If Fergie did decide to get rid of Berbs to Wolfsburg and there was a shred of truth in this then I would like to see Jovetic come in. Suarez would not be a bad option at all though!
But it is more than likely another made up story from a paper that you wouldnt wipe your arse with!
If Fergie did decide to get rid of Berbs to Wolfsburg and there was a shred of truth in this then I would like to see Jovetic come in. Suarez would not be a bad option at all though!
But it is more than likely another made up story from a paper that you wouldnt wipe your arse with!
berba out, chico in. transfer profit= good value
I doubt that Chico is seen by SAF as Berba's replacement.
Please God, let this be true!
Am i missing something here? what story? why has this thread just been randomly bumped?
I thought that earlier, so I checked on Google news and it was originally reported in the Daily Star and then, you guessed it, carried by Goal.com.
And as you well know, that double act in combination unfortunately constitutes a mathematical proof on the Truth-O-Meter. Damn.
Brilliant, Cheers Joga.
217 million pounds @ 16.25% is about 35 million each year! and that's only a third of what we owe!
Try and keep up- we're broke.
No you wolly, i was talking about Suarez and why this thread was bumped yet no article actually mentioning him was shown....comprende?
Ex-United player talking about Suarez hmmm..
I echo Muhren's words, Suarez is too much of a gamble and for 30 mil I would rather we stayed away
Considering that proven strikers are either unavailable or would cost a bomb in terms of fee and salary then we shouldnt be so cocky. Suarez is a fantastic finisher with pace and movement. He can also play on the flanks which is surely an asset. If SAF rates him then we should sign him up
Rooney, Berbatov, Owen, Hernandez, Macheda, Diouf, Welbeck + a couple more kids
Giggsy, Nani, Valencia, Park, Obertan, Cleverly, Hargreaves.
Giggsy, Nani, Valencia, Park, Obertan, Cleverly, Hargreaves.
World class players in bold.
Apart from Rooney none of these strikers is experienced enough to cover the lone striker role. Berba is not cut for the role, Owen is injury prone and the rest are too young/inexperienced or not cut for that role. The truth is that if you take Rooney and own goal out of the picture we hasnt scored enough goals so I wont be surprised if we see a change of staff in the forward line expecially if Wolfsburg's rumoured bid for Berba is true
Suarez seems like a talented player, and from what little I've seen he appears similar to Sergio Aguero, in terms of playing style and talent.
The problems for me are a) that he is unproven outside Holland and b) he plays in the supporting striker role, which is where Rooney generally plays best IMO
The problems for me are a) that he is unproven outside Holland and b) he plays in the supporting striker role, which is where Rooney generally plays best IMO
a) can we afford (or is it right) to spend a fortune on a striker who had scored a consistently high amount of goals in a 'proven European league? Are they even available (Torres, Higuan, Drogba etc)
b Rooney is now the lead the line striker and Suarez is no wimp in putting the ball into the net
We dont need him, We have Javier Hernandez
The reports are in the region of £35 million. That is already a fortune. Especially for someone playing in a league where Alfonso Alves looked brilliant, then flopped horribly at Middlesborough.
Rooney can lead the line, but is a more effective player playing off a center forward IMO. Suarez and Rooney are both similar players, both know how to score, but are predominantly creative players.
Bent plays in the same league as Rooney does but no one would dare saying that Bent is as good as Rooney. Players flop everytime. Rush flopped in Italy, Veron flopped in England that doesnt mean that every player coming from those leagues would fail
I dont know what you think but if I had to choose between having two Rooneys (Im not suggesting that Suarez is as good as Rooney but Im only re utilising your comment) upfront and having a Rooney and a slow striker who fails from scoring from a yard distance then Ill choose the former. If SAF wants the guy then I hope that he gets him. Its ridiculous to underrate such league expecially when every player we signed there had proved ahead from expectations (if I remember well)
The same sort of players we had the last 5 seasons or so that brought so much success. Went close as well last season in all the big ones. Top 3 teams in Europe. I can live with that.
I'm not saying that everyone in who plays in the Dutch league will flop over here. Obviously Ruud was great for us. My point is that the Dutch league is of a lower standard of football than the English Premiership.Therefore it is much easier for players to shine over there than it is over here. Kezman and Alves are two recent examples of this. I'm not saying Suarez would definitely flop, but it is a different standard of football in Holland, and no-one can be truly certain of how well he would do in England, at the highest level.
Yes in the scenario you describe I would rather have Suarez. However, I don't think that having two "support strikers" is as ideal as having a Rooney and a powerful center forward who can find the net. Obviously whether there are any of these center forward types out there it is hard to tell, but it would be silly for us to buy Suarez just because the market lacks options.
Is he actually quick then?
Everytime I've seen him he's been lethargic and underwhelming.
Everytime I've seen him he's been lethargic and underwhelming.
The few times I've watched him he hasn't seemed all that quick. Not slow, but on the average side.
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