Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

You have to wonder what Real Madrid found to get Hernandez instead.

Feels like we've all had a go on the good looking slapper and Man Utd was the 'lucky' bloke who ended up wedding her.
 
My mouth burns a bit when I say this, but Liverpool play the most stylish and intelligent football in the league.
 
I'm just saying, I asked you a question and then instead of answering the question you tried to insult me.

Maybe implying your posts are of a higher quality than other posters isn't the way to go?
My apologies Empire. I thought you were just diving in in support of Gas ;)

Maybe Gas calling other people's posts 'utter bullshit' just because he doesn't happen to agree with them since they are contrary to his beliefs, also isn't the way to go ? Not surprising it got a rise is it :)
 
:lol:

you can small the bitterness of the scousers on here.

hurts right?

Honestly - Not at all. He'll improve you sure, but it's genuinely hard to imagine any other player of such quality making as small a difference as he is likely to do at your club. What problem is he there to solve? Maybe he's the magic glue that somehow means the rest of your players look like an actual attacking unit, but that'd be a surprise.

By the time you start gathering steam, I wager you'll be too far behind to matter. And even then, I'd expect you to merely keep the pace moreso than clawing back points.

I'd have preferred Falcao to Balotelli, but the timing of it wasn't to be. Doesn't mean I am suddenly unhappy with Balotelli. I am glad we weren't pinning our hopes on deadline day. Been burned on that strategy in the past. But Falcao at yours? Meh. I don't see what he's going to do Van Persie wouldn't. Superstar sideways transfer.
 
Honestly - Not at all. He'll improve you sure, but it's genuinely hard to imagine any other player of such quality making as small a difference as he is likely to do at your club. What problem is he there to solve? Maybe he's the magic glue that somehow means the rest of your players look like an actual attacking unit, but that'd be a surprise.

By the time you start gathering steam, I wager you'll be too far behind to matter. And even then, I'd expect you to merely keep the pace moreso than clawing back points.

I'd have preferred Falcao to Balotelli, but the timing of it wasn't to be. Doesn't mean I am suddenly unhappy with Balotelli. I am glad we weren't pinning our hopes on deadline day. Been burned on that strategy in the past. But Falcao at yours? Meh. I don't see what he's going to do Van Persie wouldn't. Superstar sideways transfer.

of course you lot are bitter.

We will not win the title this season. Chelsea or City will. And there is not a whole lot wrong with the team. Lots of injuries in midfield which will get sorted soon. We will be in top 4 easy.
Dont think we needed Falcao...but he is certainly good to have...heck we have the money so why not.
 
My apologies Empire. I thought you were just diving in in support of Gas ;)

Maybe Gas calling other people's posts 'utter bullshit' just because he doesn't happen to agree with them since they are contrary to his beliefs, also isn't the way to go ? Not surprising it got a rise is it :)

Gas is an idiot.
 
QPR in for Borini for £10m, that will be good business providing he goes this time.
 
of course you lot are bitter.

We will not win the title this season. Chelsea or City will. And there is not a whole lot wrong with the team. Lots of injuries in midfield which will get sorted soon. We will be in top 4 easy.
Dont think we needed Falcao...but he is certainly good to have...heck we have the money so why not.

See what I mean, @Cina , @sizzling sausages et al ?
 
Every club has their over-excitables. Naturally a few will get giddy when you find out you're signing one of the best #9's in the world.

In reality, I think he's going to help get the goals we're missing, especially as his moment and finishing is a level above both RvP and Rooney, so he could make the difference between CL and no CL.

Title? No chance.
 
The post I quoted you on, it's shit, don't shoot the messenger, just saying ;)

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Yeah, it may be early season and a lot will change, but even then this Liverpool side just looks streaks ahead of us as a team. They play good football, but also know how to play together and don't particularly seem lost as a team. While things can change, I'm struggling to see us finishing ahead of them this year.
You've made one or two astute buys. LVG is a great tactician. Include a few promising youngsters and get a bit of form going and you never know what can happen. As some have posted the team that beat Arsenal 8-2 two years ago was nearly the same as the one that lost to MK Dons so there really isn't much in this. Get confidence flowing and everyone back on form and that's half the battle.
 
You've made one or two astute buys. LVG is a great tactician. Include a few promising youngsters and get a bit of form going and you never know what can happen. As some have posted the team that beat Arsenal 8-2 two years ago was nearly the same as the one that lost to MK Dons so there really isn't much in this. Get confidence flowing and everyone back on form and that's half the battle.

I'm hoping that'll be the case. I certainly think we'll perform better post-January than in the next few months to come.
 
Honestly - Not at all. He'll improve you sure, but it's genuinely hard to imagine any other player of such quality making as small a difference as he is likely to do at your club. What problem is he there to solve? Maybe he's the magic glue that somehow means the rest of your players look like an actual attacking unit, but that'd be a surprise.

By the time you start gathering steam, I wager you'll be too far behind to matter. And even then, I'd expect you to merely keep the pace moreso than clawing back points.

I'd have preferred Falcao to Balotelli, but the timing of it wasn't to be. Doesn't mean I am suddenly unhappy with Balotelli. I am glad we weren't pinning our hopes on deadline day. Been burned on that strategy in the past. But Falcao at yours? Meh. I don't see what he's going to do Van Persie wouldn't. Superstar sideways transfer.

Right now, nobody can really blame the likes of yourselves, City and Chelsea to be worrying about us in terms of what's going on on the pitch. However, going back a few years ago when City were building a team, signing Aguero, Toure and Silva in one summer, there were many of us that felt the same. As football fans we hardly ever look at the bigger picture. With that in mind, can you honestly see us continuing this way with players like Di Maria, Falcao, Rooney, Mata, Herrera, Shaw and RVP at our disposal, among others? under a manager with a track record like LVG has?

This isn't about overtaking the mighty Liverpool or anything either, just in general.
 
Honestly - Not at all. He'll improve you sure, but it's genuinely hard to imagine any other player of such quality making as small a difference as he is likely to do at your club. What problem is he there to solve? Maybe he's the magic glue that somehow means the rest of your players look like an actual attacking unit, but that'd be a surprise.

I think he is here to solve the problem of Van Persie being fecked myself, he hasn't looked good, and the reports of injuries and operations persist. I would suggest Falcao being here means if VP needs this operation and to be out for 6 months, he can now have it. With Hernandez gone we will persist with 4 strikers, Rooney/Falcao/Welbeck and Wilson.
 
You will end being called Mildred asking for a name change round here, brewlio's not shy at arranging it either :lol:

So a quick question @Liverpool posters, who do you guys reckon have the greater strike force ?

Ballotelli - Sturridge - Lambert Vs Rooney - RVP - Falcao

Love to hear your take on this @Rafateria :wenger:
I'm asking for a name change because I was threatened with being hunted down by a certain gasmanc. I've already got my family out of the country.
 
You will end being called Mildred asking for a name change round here, brewlio's not shy at arranging it either :lol:

So a quick question @Liverpool posters, who do you guys reckon have the greater strike force ?

Ballotelli - Sturridge - Lambert Vs Rooney - RVP - Falcao

Love to hear your take on this @Rafateria :wenger:
I will tell you who will score the most goals at the end of the season. And it isn't the expensively assembled one.
 
I'm asking for a name change because I was threatened with being hunted down by a certain gasmanc. I've already got my family out of the country.
Ah you will be fine he's all mouth that knobhead.
You don't wanna be massaging no egos in here though it's hard enough keeping them grounded even when they're finishing 7th regular, a season with a title challenge has recharged the delusion cells and if we're not careful we could have a mass scouse suicide if they revert to type again. That's not blood I want on my hands brah, SOS Save Our Scousers.
 
I'm just glad that United have emerged from the Ferguson years without clear direction or vision - you don't enter the last day of the window splashing bundles if you have those elements in place. Huge money signings, swollen squad, overrated players and a lack of desire on the pitch would suggest to me that the spell has been well and truly broken. United have become just another money-bags club. The Ferguson model of squad modifications, shrewd signings and avoiding a galactico obsession has been binned. United find themselevs on the last day of the transfer window with a squad that lacks any balance and an average rearguard.

The cohesion and improvements Liverpool have been showing over the past 18 months represent an antithesis of what has taken place at United in the same period. For well over a year I have been reading how Liverpool are full of average players and average signings - all of a sudden the true value of a good team is what it looks like on a piece of paper. Who cares if the likes of Mata never turns up, he's better than all those Liverpool plodders who play really well but didn't cost almost £40m.

Fact is, the very things that United were critical of about City, Chelsea and even Liverpool have all of sudden become the modus operandi at a club that is being run very strangely right now.

So no, not that bovved...

Lot of nonsense talked here.

No direction? Can't even be arsed going in to how that's not true.

We're only spending a lot now to make up for the 20 odd years of underspending. Before this year (a year ago today), Liverpool had spent more than us, so the spending has been quite obviously needed for some time, anybody can see that. How on earth signing top quality players is a negative now, well you'll have to enlighten me.

What's this shit about Liverpool now being the model club? How you're doing things the right way?

Let's compare the teams:

GK: No contest. DDG win.

Now onto defence. So apparently this is our weakest area, we've not strengthened etc., whereas Liverpool have managed to assemble a really strong defence, right?

Manquillo - Lovren - Skrtel - Moreno

VS

Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
In that second one I see two title winners, a WC finalist and a promising, young LB. A back-line we've not been able to play this season, I might add.

Midfield:

Gerrard
Henderson - Allen

VS

Blind
Herrera - Di Maria
Again, we've not been able to play with these three yet. But come on, apart from Henderson, your midfield is very, very average. In our first three games we've played with Fletcher and Cleverley, and Fletcher and Di Maria in a two-man midfield. Getting an idea as to why we're not playing so well?

Attack:

Sterling
Balotelli - Sturridge

VS

Mata - Rooney
Falcao
Sterling is a brilliant player, no doubt there. I rate Sturridge very highly, too. But what they are benefiting from is fully function midfield behind them. I'd love to see how they played with Fletcher and Cleverley behind them.

Basically, my point is that you're talking shit about United not having a 'team'.

This is the team we've played, pretty much, for our first three games:

DDG

Jones - Evans - Blackett
Valencia - Fletcher - Cleverley - Young
Mata
Rooney - RVP
An alien formation, two useless CMs, two shoehorned wingbacks, one completely unfit striker. Do you really expect that team to have come flying out of the blocks? Let's wait until we have a fully-fit squad, shall we? Before casting wild assertions that United are just throwing money around and hoping some shit sticks. We've obviously not done that. Di Maria - unbelievable player. Falcao - same. Mata- same. Herrera - very, very promising CM. Shaw - same. Blind - a very, very solid CDM. Rojo - an athletic, powerful CB.

Oh, and this isn't one of those 'better on paper' arguments. I fully believe that when we have a fully fit squad, and can play our strongest team, we will be better than Liverpool.

I also find it funny that Liverpool fans think they've superseded United, and we'll never be a force again, yet despite this ascension they still aren't title contenders. Lofty ambitions, for sure.
 
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I will tell you who will score the most goals at the end of the season. And it isn't the expensively assembled one.

That's a rare crystal ball moment from you.....quoted :D

If we get our system set the need to simply outgun opponents will be left down to Liverpool.
 
Lot of nonsense talked here.

No direction? Can't even be arsed going in to how that's not true.

We're only spending a lot now to make up for the 20 odd years of underspending. Before this year (a year ago today), Liverpool had spent more than us, so the spending has been quite obviously needed for some time, anybody can see that. How on earth signing top quality players is a negative now, well you'll have to enlighten me.

What's this shit about Liverpool now being the model club? How you're doing things the right way?

Let's compare the teams:

GK: No contest. DDG win.

Now onto defence. So apparently this is our weakest area, we've not strengthened etc., whereas Liverpool have managed to assemble a really strong defence, right?

Manquillo - Lovren - Skrtel - Moreno

VS

Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
In that second one I see two title winners, a WC finalist and a promising, young LB. A back-line we've not been able to play this season, I might add.

Midfield:

Gerrard
Henderson - Allen

VS

Blind
Herrera - Di Maria
Again, we've not been able to play with these three yet. But come on, apart from Henderson, your midfield is very, very average. In our first three games we've played with Fletcher and Cleverley, and Fletcher and Di Maria in a two-man midfield. Getting an idea as to why we're not playing so well?

Attack:

Sterling
Balotelli - Sturridge

VS

Mata - Rooney
Falcao
Sterling is a brilliant player, no doubt there. I rate Sturridge very highly, too. But what they are benefiting from is fully function midfield behind them. I'd love to see how they played with Fletcher and Cleverley behind them.

Basically, my point is that you're talking shit about United not having a 'team'.

This is the team we've played, pretty much, for our first three games:

DDG

Jones - Evans - Blackett
Valencia - Fletcher - Cleverley - Young
Mata
Rooney - RVP
An alien formation, two useless CMs, two shoehorned wingbacks, one completely unfit striker. Do you really expect that team to have come flying out of the blocks? Let's wait until we have a fully-fit squad, shall we? Before casting wild assertions that United are just throwing money around and hoping some shit sticks. We've obviously not done that. Di Maria - unbelievable player. Falcao - same. Mata- same. Herrera - very, very promising CM. Shaw - same. Blind - a very, very solid CDM. Rojo - an athletic, powerful CB.

Oh, and this isn't one of those 'better on paper' arguments. I fully believe that when we have a fully fit squad, and can play our strongest team, we will be better than Liverpool.

I also find it funny that Liverpool fans think they've superseded United, and we'll never be a force again, yet despite this ascension they still aren't title contenders. Lofty ambitions, for sure.

You're spending big money now because you need to. A lot of the players you rated so highly have now been exposed as nowhere near as good as you once thought. Their successes at Manchester United had more to do with Ferguson's genius rather than their own individual capabilities. & it really is one of those 'better on paper' arguments. These player v player comparisons are boring & pointless. At this particular point in time we are a better team, & will remain so until, or unless, LVG & his expensive assemble of players prove otherwise. That's not me being smug, arrogant, cocky etc. It's how it is.
 
You're spending big money now because you need to. A lot of the players you rated so highly have now been exposed as nowhere near as good as you once thought. Their successes at Manchester United had more to do with Ferguson's genius rather than their own individual capabilities. & it really is one of those 'better on paper' arguments. These player v player comparisons are boring & pointless. At this particular point in time we are a better team, & will remain so until, or unless, LVG & his expensive assemble of players prove otherwise. That's not me being smug, arrogant, cocky etc. It's how it is.

My point is that we've not been able to put out our best team. Even Prophet Rodgers would be stuck in a mire if he had to put out the XI we've had to in these opening games. Let's see what happens when we get Shaw, Rafael Herrera, Di Maria, Blind, Mata, Rooney and Falcao on the pitch together.

The only players in our team who are overrated are Evans, Rafael and Jones. But they're all still very solid players. Jones, in particular, has a very high ceiling and Rafael, if he could fortheloveofgod maintain some fitness, is also a very good player. Evans is good, but lacks mental fortitude. I don't think Rojo is lacking in the confidence department and Smalling is actually a very good CB. No other players are rated in our team. I'm not going to go near saying Mata is overrated, especially when he's had to play with Young, Valencia, Fletcher and Cleverley. Nobody would look good playing amongst that dross.
 
My point is that we've not been able to put out our best team. Even Prophet Rodgers would be stuck in a mire if he had to put out the XI we've had to in these opening games. Let's see what happens when we get Shaw, Rafael Herrera, Di Maria, Blind, Mata, Rooney and Falcao on the pitch together.

The only players in our team who are overrated are Evans, Rafael and Jones. But they're all still very solid players. Jones, in particular, has a very high ceiling and Rafael, if he could fortheloveofgod maintain some fitness, is also a very good player. Evans is good, but lacks mental fortitude. I don't think Rojo is lacking in the confidence department and Smalling is actually a very good CB. No other players are rated in our team. I'm not going to go near saying Mata is overrated, especially when he's had to play with Young, Valencia, Fletcher and Cleverley. Nobody would look good playing amongst that dross.

IMHO, it's not the players who'll ultimately determine your destiny, it's your manager. Even with all the great players you've had over the past 20 years or so, do you think a lesser manager than Fergie would have achieved just as much as he did ?
 
IMHO, it's not the players who'll ultimately determine your destiny, it's your manager. Even with all the great players you've had over the past 20 years or so, do you think a lesser manager than Fergie would have achieved just as much as he did ?

No, and I don't expect Fergie levels of success. But give LVG his due, he's more than proved himself, he's a top, top manager. When you've got Mourinho and Guardiola amongst your proteges, you know you're doing something right. He's from the Ajax School of football, once it clicks, it's going to be very good, especially with some of the players available to him now.
 
IMHO, it's not the players who'll ultimately determine your destiny, it's your manager. Even with all the great players you've had over the past 20 years or so, do you think a lesser manager than Fergie would have achieved just as much as he did ?

So it is Fergusons genius after all and not him buying the premier league in all it's infant years and having the likes of Howard Webb cobbling results together for us, not to mention all those penalties we shouldn't have been given and the extra time minutes the FA granted to United in order for them to overcome opponents.