Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Cinas right, it has been a minority but a very loud and now quickly disappearing one. Take a boo Richard Cranium, pogue, Thisistheone, gasmanc, etc.

Ha! 3 games in and you're acting very cocky.

You were good today, especially Sterling. But it's 3 games in. Imagine how bad you lot would be if you'd won 1 Premier League title, nevermind the 13 we stringed together. Praise Steven Gerrard for that slip.
 
Yep back on track, really I would probably take Sterling and Sturridge - but even then, an on form RvP is better than Sturridge for me and an on form Mata is better than Sterling.

I wouldn't take Henderson as first choice - Herrera and Di Maria are better options there. Maybe Lovren for Jones? About it really. Not much is it.
Nope it's certainly not but 3 games in and they're acting like they've been on top for 20 years. Embarrassing set of twats.
 
great, Coutinho is already a bench warmer

can we just fast forward like 8 years so I don't have to witness this gash generation of brazilian players anymore?
 
If we don't finish in the top 4 this season, beating these increasingly more smug set of fans at Anfield will be a fine consolation.
 
Yep back on track, really I would probably take Sterling and Sturridge - but even then, an on form RvP is better than Sturridge for me and an on form Mata is better than Sterling.

I wouldn't take Henderson as first choice - Herrera and Di Maria are better options there. Maybe Lovren for Jones? About it really. Not much is it.
This is becoming increasingly questionable.
 
This is becoming increasingly questionable.

I know Sterling is on the rise and is a fine player as of now but when Mata and Sterling are on top of their games, it is hard to claim Sterling is on the same class as Mata. He has the potential to reach there but he still has some way to go tbh.
 
I know Sterling is on the rise and is a fine player as of now but when Mata and Sterling are on top of their games, it is hard to claim Sterling is on the same class as Mata. He has the potential to reach there but he still has some way to go tbh.

They're entirely different players, there's no point comparing them.
 
Liverpool looking good. We can only hope that Chelsea keep winning.

Think Liverpool's defence will cost them a title challenge this season. Compared to City and Chelsea I think they are just a bit below.
 
From the fans who touted Jermaine Pennant a better prospect than Ronaldo, it's hardly surprising this kind of talk is rearing it's head.
From the fan who has repeatedly underestimated Liverpool's current players it's hardly surprising that this kind of talk is rearing its head.
 
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I would be looking for 16 or 18 points from this next run. We have a chance to build a bit of momentum after the international break.

You will have a few European games in between some of these. Liverpool played very well yesterday, but I think you might find a couple of unexpected results follow your midweek European matches. I know this from experience with United when we were a quality side. We'd travel to the likes of West Ham after a game away to someone like Lille and end up drawing 2-2.

Look at Arsenal yesterday for the kind of thing I'm on about.
 
The talk that Liverpool were carried by Suarez.

Plus, the Pennant thing is nonsense. Hardly a prevailing view amongst LFC fans.

We're 3 games into a new season, the jury is still out on everyone. The final third of the season is where it's at, if it slips there what went before becomes irrelevant. Talk that Suarez wasn't pivotal to Liverpool is quite frankly ridiculous especially factoring in last season. You were decent enough against City but they snuffed out attacks that had they contained Suarez the result would likely have changed dramatically. Even yesterday when Sterling went on his foray, do you doubt had Suarez been involved the end result would have been a goal ?
Results will become fractured and unexpected once you start travelling around Europe but let's face it you've done alright there, better draw than Arsenal from pot 3.
 
I know Sterling is on the rise and is a fine player as of now but when Mata and Sterling are on top of their games, it is hard to claim Sterling is on the same class as Mata. He has the potential to reach there but he still has some way to go tbh.
I put up the stat's comparing them last season, Mata clearly ahead. However so far this season Sterling has been simply superb, both in defence (where Mata is greatly remiss) and attack whilst Mata have been well below his average.
 
Yep back on track, really I would probably take Sterling and Sturridge - but even then, an on form RvP is better than Sturridge for me and an on form Mata is better than Sterling.

I wouldn't take Henderson as first choice - Herrera and Di Maria are better options there. Maybe Lovren for Jones? About it really. Not much is it.

And conversely, I'd take De Gea, Rafael and Di Maria. Maybe Herrera, but he'll need to show he can do the business in this league.

Rooney on the basis that Rodgers might get more out of him. But if we're going on what these players have delivered the past 12 months or even just howsuitable they are for our football, then it's slim pickings for our first XI from your team.
 
Ming - 6.5 - gets an extra ½ point for 'that' save, even though straight at him.
Moreno - 9.5 - simply what more could you possibly have asked for ? MoM.
Sakho - 5 (1st half) and 7.5 (2nd half) - first time together and Lovren just doesn't trust anyone yet, tries to cover everything himself but got in the way a couple of times. The 2nd half was a substantial improvement as they no doubt started to get more in-tune with each other. Fantastic cover tackle even though finally given as offside. This may well be the CB partnership going forward and I believe it will end up being totally Boss !
Lovren - 7 - see above. Man he covers some ground for a CB. Seemingly everywhere. The fact that Spurs had just ONE shot on target is telling.
Manquillo - 7 - thought he did an excellent job, I don't remember a single cross coming in from that side. He's very pacey and strong, technically gifted and can bomb up and down that wing all day long. 1st teamer all the way.
Gerrard - 6.5 - a very dubious 1st half with a much more accomplished 2nd. Still seems a little off the pace overall but did block 3 shots, made 3/3 successful tackles, 8 clearances, 2 chances created and 1 goal, a positive sign.
Henderson - 8.5 - He pulverised their midfield/defence and never gave them a second to rest, a monster, nothing more to be said. His 2nd assist of the season.
Allen - 7.5 - as per last week when many under-valued his performance. His running and pressurising, along with constantly good passing and interplay, meant he and Henderson dominated midfield.
Balotteli - 6.5 - disappointed he didn't put one, of his 3 very good chances, away. However his strength on the ball, holdup play and power in the air, are all very positive traits we have been missing in our attack. Some great touches & vision too. Will get better and sharper.
Sterling - 9 - he terrified and dominated the Spurs defence from start to finish. Almost as impressive was his defensive work - he tracks back and never gives the midfield a minute's peace. He is some player !
Sturridge - 8 - despite not scoring he was instrumental as part of that tri-prong attack, in constantly harassing and running at the Spurs' defence. Some great (tricky) work in the build up to Sterling's goal, to go past 2 Spur's defenders. Excellent all afternoon.

Markovic - 6 - a little quiet when he came on to replace Balotelli. However I think BR had decided to shut-up shop by that time and just wait for breaks so his work was more defensive in nature than offensive.
Can - 7 - continued the domination of their midfield with strength and power as epitomised by his run and pass to Sterling to set him on his way for 'that' miss.

Rodgers - 9 - set the team up with the right personnel and formation, made the right decisions on subs and on this occasion tactically out-thought Pochettino.
 
Even yesterday when Sterling went on his foray, do you doubt had Suarez been involved the end result would have been a goal ?

FFS.

And had sturridge been there to take it off his foot, he'd surely score as well.

What a ridiculous argument.
 
And conversely, I'd take De Gea, Rafael and Di Maria. Maybe Herrera, but he'll need to show he can do the business in this league.

Rooney on the basis that Rodgers might get more out of him. But if we're going on what these players have delivered the past 12 months or even just howsuitable they are for our football, then it's slim pickings for our first XI from your team.

Get real, Rooney and Van Persie are both significantly better than Balotelli - Rodgers would snap our hands off to get either of them in your team. Hilarious how you refer to the last 12 months in making your assessment after Balotelli's recent seasons by the way.

De Gea, Rafael, Di Maria, Herrera, Van Persie and Rooney would get in your first XI.

Lovren and Sturridge might get in ours.
 
And conversely, I'd take De Gea, Rafael and Di Maria. Maybe Herrera, but he'll need to show he can do the business in this league.

Rooney on the basis that Rodgers might get more out of him. But if we're going on what these players have delivered the past 12 months or even just howsuitable they are for our football, then it's slim pickings for our first XI from your team.
I'd go as far and say that on yesterday's performance (and on the fact that people are selecting Rojo, Blind and Shaw without a match under their belts in the PL for United + Herrera with two performances against average teams) I would maybe only take De Gea, Di Maria and possibly (and this only because Balotelli has only played one game) Rooney. Not surprising then that each set of supporters sees it at virtually 180 degrees about.
 
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Get real, Rooney and Van Persie are both significantly better than Balotelli - Rodgers would snap our hands off to get either of them in your team. Hilarious how you refer to the last 12 months in making your assessment after Balotelli's recent seasons by the way.

De Gea, Rafael, Di Maria, Herrera, Van Persie and Rooney would get in your side.

One of Van Persie or Rooney would get in. I'd pick Rooney as the better fit.

It's still too early to say whether Herrera would get in. But he ought to, if he shows he can settle in this league.
 
The final third of the season is where it's at, if it slips there what went before becomes irrelevant.
Well that surely all depends on the standings when we get to that point. If that gap is wider than you expected or if we do not suddenly implode as you are all assuming will be the result of European matches ...........
 
FFS.

And had sturridge been there to take it off his foot, he'd surely score as well.

What a ridiculous argument.
The simple reality is that Suarez would have been there if he wasn't banned that is. And he would have given City's back line a excessively more difficult job.
It's not as ridiculous as claiming an up and coming Sterling a better player than Mata though, but that's selective viewing for you.
 
The simple reality is that Suarez would have been there if he wasn't banned that is. And he would have given City's back line a excessively more difficult job.
It's not as ridiculous as claiming an up and coming Sterling a better player than Mata though, but that's selective viewing for you.
United fans are naturally going to claim Mata, Liverpool's Sterling because he's been fantastic for the past 12 months, it would be interesting to see a neutral's perspective though ... not so clear cut I'd imagine.
 
What would Jordan Henderson score on the beep test? The guy runs around like a maniac and presses constantly. It'll be interesting to see how midweek games affect him.
 
United fans are naturally going to claim Mata, Liverpool's Sterling because he's been fantastic for the past 12 months, it would be interesting to see a neutral's perspective though ... not so clear cut I'd imagine.
Actually it was pickle red I was correcting, both players are not even remotely similar and hence cannot be compared but as levels go then it's quite clear Mata is the more equipped. Sterlings pace and trickery are more suited to a comparison with Di Maria so we can draw a line under that.
 
Actually it was pickle red I was correcting, both players are not even remotely similar and hence cannot be compared but as levels go then it's quite clear Mata is the more equipped. Sterlings pace and trickery are more suited to a comparison with Di Maria so we can draw a line under that.
Sterling is 19 yo and already rated one of the best youngsters in Europe with obviously so much more to come, Di Maria is 26 yo so it's whether you want to go for maturity or youth at their current levels. I know probably 99% of Liverpool fans wouldn't swap him for virtually anyone (bar the obvious) and that includes DiM. As far as positionally is concerned, Sterling has played in the apex of the diamond and was fantastic so I think we can compare to Mata.
 
Well that surely all depends on the standings when we get to that point. If that gap is wider than you expected or if we do not suddenly implode as you are all assuming will be the result of European matches ...........

You might find your own fans and probably yourself have expressed concerns regarding European matches, especially for your defence against the bigger teams. City saw it crumble and your to face Madrid twice. My suspicion and hope is that Rogers is excellent in producing attacking football but has problems organising defences.

It's been an amazing transformation for Liverpool fans going from United corruption being the sole link between top honours and 7th but since Fergusons retirement the admission that actually it was the fact that he was just an elite force and one of the managerial greats of all time. Now you finally have a good manager yourselves your finally realising the influence they have on the league standings and Moyes stint underling that point perfectly.
Van Gaal is apparently quite good too, or so I'm told ;)
 
You might find your own fans and probably yourself have expressed concerns regarding European matches, especially for your defence against the bigger teams. City saw it crumble and your to face Madrid twice. My suspicion and hope is that Rogers is excellent in producing attacking football but has problems organising defences.

It's been an amazing transformation for Liverpool fans going from United corruption being the sole link between top honours and 7th but since Fergusons retirement the admission that actually it was the fact that he was just an elite force and one of the managerial greats of all time. Now you finally have a good manager yourselves your finally realising the influence they have on the league standings and Moyes stint underling that point perfectly.
Van Gaal is apparently quite good too, or so I'm told ;)
Well whilst that's all true (and I think everybody, even Liverpool fans, rates LvG) it still doesn't answer the question I posed ....
Well that surely all depends on the standings when we get to that point. If that gap is wider than you expected or if we do not suddenly implode as you are all assuming will be the result of European matches ...........

The January transfer window could be just as interesting (for us as well as United) as this one !
 
Sterling vs Spurs.

Note also Can's contribution holding off Dembele to set up Sterling's subsequent mazy run and sad miss, at around 4.50.

 
Sterling is 19 yo and already rated one of the best youngsters in Europe with obviously so much more to come, Di Maria is 26 yo so it's whether you want to go for maturity or youth at their current levels. I know probably 99% of Liverpool fans wouldn't swap him for virtually anyone (bar the obvious) and that includes DiM. As far as positionally is concerned, Sterling has played in the apex of the diamond and was fantastic so I think we can compare to Mata.
Mata and Sterlings style of play is not even remotely comparable, the end. That you would take Sterling over Di Maria simply underlines how biased and impossible it is to have a reasoned discussion with you.
 
Well whilst that's all true (and I think everybody, even Liverpool fans, rates LvG) it still doesn't answer the question I posed ....

The January transfer window could be just as interesting (for us as well as United) as this one !

Europe will bring wear and tear and that's not just to players bodies, confidence and tired minds are also key players during a long season. Results in Europe will impact the squad and a lesson from Madrid or elsewhere won't help especially when you factor in a forward line with "English mentality".