Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Rafateria said:
Alex Song is still out there and with 9 days to go I'm hopeful :D

Weren't we tying up Romero ? Or did that fizzle out ?
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I'm 100% anti-Song. I'd start a petition and everything.

Melvyn said:
Interesting that the rumours are that Rodgers doesn't want Balotelli.
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More reliable journalists have quashed the reports from goal and the mirror (lol).
 
RooneyLegend said:
Allen is Pool's best holding mid, its a pity they don't seem to know.
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He's not really a holding midfielder. I'm not a fan of him either, though a lot of Liverpool fans rate him highly, as does Rodgers.

He's too easily pushed off the ball for my liking, and as good as he is at finding space in the box to move into he wastes it by losing all his usual composure once he gets there.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
He's not really a holding midfielder. I'm not a fan of him either, though a lot of Liverpool fans rate him highly, as does Rodgers.

He's too easily pushed off the ball for my liking, and as good as he is at finding space in the box to move into he wastes it by losing all his usual composure once he gets there.
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Don't agree at all with regards to this. Allen is very good at shielding the ball.
 
Surely the 'Rodgers doesn't want Balotelli' report would have to be false? Although it happened with Sturridge apparently. I just don't see why a club would sign someone the manager doesn't want. It seems pointless and a waste of money.
 
BarneyLFC said:
No, he isn't. He can do a job there (he was excellent for two or three months when he arrived) but playing him there is a waste of his abilities.
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That's where the problem came in, this belief that he had abilities that he just doesn't have. Hes basically a Cleverley that actually can defend in midfield thus is perfect for the holding role. Reads the game very well and gets stuck in when needed. His Career went tits up when he was expected to somehow transform into some xavi like player despite never having the ability to do so. He can be something of Pool's Busquets.
Bob Loblaw said:
He's not really a holding midfielder. I'm not a fan of him either, though a lot of Liverpool fans rate him highly, as does Rodgers.

He's too easily pushed off the ball for my liking, and as good as he is at finding space in the box to move into he wastes it by losing all his usual composure once he gets there.
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Cant agree with that, he keeps the ball really well protecting it with his body and such. Coutinho even recently said that hes taking lessons on how to protect the ball with his body from Allen. Gerrard is a defensive liability and a hazard when it comes to keeping the ball, stuff like that will not cut it in the CL.
 
Mignolet, Jones
Manquillo, Flanagan, Johnson
Moreno, Enrique
Lovren, Skrtel, Sakho, Kolo
Gerrard, Lucas, Can, Henderson, Allen, Coutinho, Lallana
Sterling, Markovic
Sturridge, Lambert, Mario, Borini?

Would that be a strong enough squad to go into the season with?

I think we're another attacking player short if Borini goes, a loan or Eto'o signing to come in until next season when Origi and hopefully Ibe get opportunities to return would be perfect.
 
BarneyLFC said:
I'm 100% anti-Song. I'd start a petition and everything.
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Strange that the 'Pool supporters on here are vehemently anti-Song whilst the majority of those on the other forums I'm on are generally pro-Song !

I'm definitely in the pro-Song camp, he can do that DM job better than anyone we have and a loan would be perfect for us.
 
RooneyLegend said:
That's where the problem came in, this belief that he had abilities that he just doesn't have. Hes basically a Cleverley that actually can defend in midfield thus is perfect for the holding role. Reads the game very well and gets stuck in when needed. His Career went tits up when he was expected to somehow transform into some xavi like player despite never having the ability to do so. He can be something of Pool's Busquets.

Cant agree with that, he keeps the ball really well protecting it with his body and such. Coutinho even recently said that hes taking lessons on how to protect the ball with his body from Allen. Gerrard is a defensive liability and a hazard when it comes to keeping the ball, stuff like that will not cut it in the CL.
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That last line is clearly anti-Gerrard bias because the number of times he loses a ball, when he's in possession, in a season .... can be counted on less than the fingers on your two hands. Interesting stuff re. Allen/Coutinho, hadn't heard that before but as you say, Allen is great at shielding.
Though I'd also have to add that since Rodgers had worked with him at Swansea, where Allen was a key component in the team, then I'm pretty sure he'd have known his strengths and weaknesses too, so there were no surprises regarding his abilities.
 
BarneyLFC said:
Mignolet, Jones
Manquillo, Flanagan, Johnson
Moreno, Enrique
Lovren, Skrtel, Sakho, Kolo
Gerrard, Lucas, Can, Henderson, Allen, Coutinho, Lallana
Sterling, Markovic
Sturridge, Lambert, Mario, Borini.

Would that be a strong enough squad to go into the season with?

I think we're another attacking player short if Borini goes, a loan or Eto'o signing to come in until next season when Origi and hopefully Ibe get opportunities to return would be perfect.
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We are looking strong all over now.
I hope that Romero completes his move (if it hasn't stalled already, gone very quiet) as that will be serious competition for Ming.
Johnson can play LB better than RB so that's 3 deep there (prefer he was sold though).
CBs are looking great (though Sakho should start - Skrtel is rather too limited a CB overall IMHO).
We differ on the next bit .. I'd like Song to replace Lucas as the two injuries have ruined him (though I believe Can can give SG a rest in less competitive games).
I'd prefer we keep Ibe rather then letting him go on loan to Bolton/Derby, though there are pros/cons to this but we only have Sterling/Markovic as his ilk and he is the fastest player we have too, he can't improve his decision making from the bench though, and he won't get many opportunities for us this season, so I see the benefit of a loan (tough decision that).
Probably agree on Eto'o too (as I think Borini will go to Sunderland) and 3 maybe just a tad light. It's not if we continue to play 1 up front but if we go to the midfield diamond then we need one more striker. Don't think it will happen though and there's always Peterson who is a confident young man and would probably be OK in a 2 man attack.
 
If I was a pool fan I'd still be concerned with the singing of Balotelli. There's no doubting he is a quality player but I just don't see where he will fit in. There's no way he will be shunted out wide so surely that means Sturbridge will be pissing him off in the process. More importantly how does he fit in with the whole ethos of pressing Liverpool have? To me it seems this will cause more headaches than it will solve.
 
Rafateria said:
Strange that the 'Pool supporters on here are vehemently anti-Song whilst the majority of those on the other forums I'm on are generally pro-Song !

I'm definitely in the pro-Song camp, he can do that DM job better than anyone we have and a loan would be perfect for us.
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He wanders about too much to play defensive midfield though. The problems we have with Gerrard failing to track runners apply to Song too.

Plus he's at a stage now where he doesn't give a feck and is just happy to pick up a pay cheque.
 
I really don't know how they're going to use Balotelli. He and Sturridge will no doubt he starting.

RB CB CB LB
Henderson Gerrard
Coutinho----------- Sterling
Sturridge Balotelli​
 
Still get the feeling that despite spending 120m the team hasn't really improved. The bench is significantly improved, granted, but Lovren and Moreno are the only obvious improvements and they've lost arguably the best player they've ever had.

Definitely the most likely side to drop out of the top 4.
 
I think signing Balotelli will really help Liverpool this season. I actually fancy them to finish in the top 4 again now.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
Still get the feeling that despite spending 120m the team hasn't really improved. The bench is significantly improved, granted, but Lovren and Moreno are the only obvious improvements and they've lost arguably the best player they've ever had.

Definitely the most likely side to drop out of the top 4.
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Depends on what roles Lallana and Markovic will have, to early to say really.
 
Me? Maybe I've just forgotten how he played at Arsenal but I don't rate him now (can't remember if I ever did). Think we're fine for numbers in midfield now too, Can can (ha) play instead of Gerrard if we want someone more defensively solid.
 
Rafateria said:
That last line is clearly anti-Gerrard bias because the number of times he loses a ball, when he's in possession, in a season .... can be counted on less than the fingers on your two hands.
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Only if you were born in the close vicinity of Chernobyl and you had an incredibly unnatural amount of fingers.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
I really don't know how they're going to use Balotelli. He and Sturridge will no doubt he starting.
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In theory you can play Sturridge wide-ish, having him and Sterling flank Balotelli. Sturridge clearly lacks plenty as a wide option (tucked-in winger, wide forward, no matter what you call it, he's better in the middle for my money), though. And Balotelli is a striker, say what ye will. Both of them are better centrally, in other words.
 
If you're realistic you would get to know that also at Liverpool no United player bar de Gea would get in their starting line up. Atm Manquillo, GJ are better than Rafael, and normally Rooney and RVP are above Studge but for the past year 1,5 year he has been better.
 
Sammyjunn said:
If you're realistic you would get to know that also at Liverpool no United player bar de Gea would get in their starting line up. Atm Manquillo, GJ are better than Rafael, and normally Rooney and RVP are above Studge but for the past year 1,5 year he has been better.
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Bold the only bits that make sense, what a post of nonsense.
 
Sammyjunn said:
De Gea wouldnt get in their starting line up? If you put off your United glasses you come to the conclusion that Studge has done more than them in the past 1.5 years, you cant doubt that imo.
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Well for a start Glen Johnson is crap, Manquillo is suspect defensively and a bit of an unknown quantity so Rafael over them straight away. Mata over Coutinho, Herrera over all their midfielders bar Henderson because he suits the system so well. Evans over Skrtel and Agger.
 
Spiersey said:
Well for a start Glen Johnson is crap, Manquillo is suspect defensively and a bit of an unknown quantity so Rafael over them straight away. Mata over Coutinho, Herrera over all their midfielders bar Henderson because he suits the system so well. Evans over Skrtel and Agger.
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This is exactly what I mean, the United glasses. And I dont judge based on name, but based on how they have performed in the last let say 6 months. Rafael has been absolute shite and has done literally nothing, 1 good cross and thats it, Glen Johnson isnt a good player but has been far more decent in the last 6 months. Also Rafa has been injured a lot. Mata apart from some FK's, long balls, tap ins has done almost nothing, maybe Coutinho has less goals/assists but his play has been far far better. Dont think Herrera also is better than Gerrard. Gerrard is quite underrated atm, he has been terrific for Liverpool (I know he slipped) Evans has been Injured since? Hasnt had a good run since, I wouldnt choose him above Sakho atm, Sakho - Lovren is the duo.
 
gasmanc said:
It will be very similar to the Suarez/Sturridge relationship in that Sturridge can play centrally whenever the other dickheads banned.
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Except the other dickhead is both a worse footballer and a worse allround team player than the cannibal. In terms of a continuation of the model which worked so well for 'em last season, it's sheer deterioration.

If Brenton intends to simply replace the cannibal with the fireworks expert, then I wouldn't worry at all. Sadly, though, I suspect Brenton is actually slightly more clever than that.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Except the other dickhead is both a worse footballer and a worse allround team player than the cannibal. In terms of a continuation of the model which worked so well for 'em last season, it's sheer deterioration.

If Brenton intends to simply replace the cannibal with the fireworks expert, then I wouldn't worry at all. Sadly, though, I suspect Brenton is actually slightly more clever than that.
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A phrase like that makes it sound like it's all doom and gloom. Bit OTT.

What is clear to me is that certain members of this forum are enjoying the disapproval all over again.
 
Sammyjunn said:
This is exactly what I mean, the United glasses. And I dont judge based on name, but based on how they have performed in the last let say 6 months. Rafael has been absolute shite and has done literally nothing, 1 good cross and thats it, Glen Johnson isnt a good player but has been far more decent in the last 6 months. Also Rafa has been injured a lot. Mata apart from some FK's, long balls, tap ins has done almost nothing, maybe Coutinho has less goals/assists but his play has been far far better. Dont think Herrera also is better than Gerrard. Gerrard is quite underrated atm, he has been terrific for Liverpool (I know he slipped) Evans has been Injured since? Hasnt had a good run since, I wouldnt choose him above Sakho atm, Sakho - Lovren is the duo.
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Check my tag line, I'm pretty sure I don't wear United glasses and I'm a harsh critic of the squad. You can't use the fact someone has been injured against them otherwise you'd take Torres over Falcao based upon the last 6 months. You're taking such a small sample of data, Mata is twice the player Coutinho currently is (lot of potential though still inconsistant). Sahko is a liability. If you'd choose him over United's best CB based on his Liverpool form (You know that 6 months you banged on about) then this isn't even worth debating.
 
PickledRed said:
A phrase like that makes it sound like it's all doom and gloom. Bit OTT.

What is clear to me is that certain members of this forum are enjoying the disapproval all over again.
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Yeah, but I don't believe Brenton is stupid enough to go for a continuation of the model. So, the deterioration may be less prominent.

My basic stance is that anyone who thinks Liverpool pose no threat to us - is naive. Like as not we'll be fighting it out for 4th. And right now, they ain't looking worse than we are.
 
Spiersey said:
Check my tag line, I'm pretty sure I don't wear United glasses and I'm a harsh critic of the squad. You can't use the fact someone has been injured against them otherwise you'd take Torres over Falcao based upon the last 6 months. You're taking such a small sample of data, Mata is twice the player Coutinho currently is (lot of potential though still inconsistant). Sahko is a liability. If you'd choose him over United's best CB based on his Liverpool form (You know that 6 months you banged on about) then this isn't even worth debating.
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Hahah my bad, that Rafa has been injured a lot was more like an extra than the base of the arguement, in the past season Glenn Johnson has been better than Rafa imo. Mata his hights are, true but he hasnt reached that since the start of the league has he? Evans isnt the best United CB imo, and he also hasnt really performed since his pairing with Rio.
 
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