Agree with this. Liverpool were very lucky with injuries to important players this year but you can't count on that, especially with more games to play. You're now better prepared to deal with injuries, but I think it's very unrealistic to expect you to have such a perfect season again in terms of so many players playing above their expected level. And then of course you've lost Suarez who was hugely important to the way you played, both in his goal return and in making space for other players. With that in mind I think the lack of top-quality signings will see the club fail to build upon this season's success, especially as other teams (especially Chelsea) strengthen.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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Agree with this. Liverpool were very lucky with injuries to important players this year but you can't count on that, especially with more games to play. You're now better prepared to deal with injuries, but I think it's very unrealistic to expect you to have such a perfect season again in terms of so many players playing above their expected level. And then of course you've lost Suarez who was hugely important to the way you played, both in his goal return and in making space for other players. With that in mind I think the lack of top-quality signings will see the club fail to build upon this season's success, especially as other teams (especially Chelsea) strengthen.
Rooney in that season that we won the title was not one to remember for him. In a system with RvP and a better player maker behind him we could have won the title again. Rooney was garbage in that title-winning season. Please, continue throwing insults about my intelligence out and about because of my opinion that differs from yours.
He was your top-scorer last season and would probably have ended up playing for Chelsea yet you think losing him wouldn't have been a problem.
Like I said, a bit dim.
Not SAF but any new manager we would have. The argument is simple: The whole squad wasn't even available. So many key players were injured throughout the season. Do you think the Ferdinand of the season we won was the same as the Ferdinand of last season? Same can apply to Vidic, Tony V, Evra, Cleverly, Young, Nani etc. These players weren't the same players and you can't blame it all on tactics or they just didn't wanna play for Moyes.
One big reason we won was that RVP was on fire that season.
I do go along with this opinion, the lack of work rate shown compared to his Everton sides was shocking and it was clear the players didn't buy into his way doing things.
Afraid you've missed it by a mile, the foundations of a football club stem from it's roots.
A few shit performances from poorly coached players won't rock what's already in place. Your just laying roots as a club but Uniteds roots are huge. Moyes was a monumental cock up but he's not broken the institution.
One season of shit under Moyes is just as telling as a good season under Rodge.
It's not all set yet.
Exactly, same place as your world class signing. You've nearly got the point. Almost there.
Who described shaw as world class?
Hes a player who could go on to be world class at least, cant say that about any of the other 3.
Why am i even replying to you?
Your posts are beyond idiotic
Are you still talking about last season when you, once again, failed to win the league?
Well done for not signing anyone in January, and failing to win the league. A lesson to us all in how not to win.
Indeed, not winning the league must be a great consolation on missing out on signing very talented players.
Yes, Manchester United was not at the level of David Moyes.
No one called Shaw world class.
Its remarkable how a couple months completely can change a player's ability then. Whats the difference between Ferdinand at 34 1/2 and Ferdinand at 35? Did he lose a leg?
Yeah, I'm dim because I think Rooney was the shiniest turd in a whole squad of turds last season.
Then Utd have bought no one to suggest they will break top 4 while Liverpool with their crap Southampton players are fcked. This has been the general theme in this thread which has pissed me off enough to fire these flurry of posts.
Some United fans say stupid things, and some Liverpool fans say stupid things. Is it fair to say that Liverpool and United are both being underrated coming into this next season? Or are we still 'mid table' and cannon fodder for the other superior teams in the league...
I'm glad you agree with me. It's odd that 17 league goals is considered a turd-like performance though.
He scored 17 yes, but by his standards thats not setting the world alight.
A good season would be getting to the Champions League knockouts and accumulating around 75 points. Whether or not that will be enough to finish in the top 4 is up for debate, but Liverpool are kind of resetting, the medium term future looks more promising than the short term.
Interesting seeing as it's his third highest total in his career.
This is a player who scored 31 before. Last season was certainly not one of his best. I watched every game last season. We were a poor side and Rooney was the least poor of the group.
I didn't mean the immediate season before. I meant before in his career.
Imagine if Suarez played this season with Liverpool and scored 17 or thereabouts. Would that not be disappointing given that we've seen him score significantly more than that?
I dont agree with rykkers basic point but he spent a lot of his earlier career playing on the wing, his goal scoring record has been dissapointing at times despite that i guess.
He started last season well but his form went downhill after christmas, he didn't have a good season (no one did).
No because getting 17 goals in the EPL is pretty fecking good. Ryan Giggs never did it, Cantona got 18 once, Andy Cole got 19 and 17 once, Hernandez and Webeck have never got close.
So Suarez losing 14 goals from his stats in a season isn't disappointing? 17 is a decent goal scoring total but Rooney was not that fantastic last season.
You tell me. You saw the performances. It doesn't take long for players to go out of form or just go past it.
That's no bad thing considering how well the 'already here' players did last season. It was the depth that was alarming.
Also, it is possibly difficult to displace established players with new signings from the star of the season. However, by November it might look different. Remy may be scoring frequently, Lovren might look a born leader at the back and Can could be the solidity in midfield we've been waiting for. Not to mention the impact Reus and Vidal will have in the reserves...
All a bit early to be dismissing these guys.
You're right, it's no loss that Brendan's first big money signing is injured before playing a game. Whether you rate him or not, Brendan clearly does and him being injured is a loss especially considering we have three hellish games to start the season.
Agger's marking has been awful for the past two seasons. I love the Dane, but Sakho is the better player. Constantly losing your man in the penalty area isn't something that Brendan can fix systemically. That's something Agger has to improve on himself.
If you were expecting star players, then I could have told you before the window started that you'd be disappointed.
I have no idea what you're going on about now.
I don't understand the negativity around Lallana. I thought he was excellent last season, scored nine goals so you would figure he would score & create more for us?
Remy once signed scored 14 goals for Newcastle at a ratio of a goal every other game, again especially for the money it's a good signing.
Markovic what I have seen looks a real talent, can play a few positions and adds some flair to our attack.
Lambert, quality proven player in our league, point to prove, for the price I don't see a problem.
Can, confess I hadn't seen much of him but we lack a physical presence in the middle, and he is German!
Lovren if he signs I thought was one of the best centre halves in the league last season.
We wanted Sanchez, who exactly is available as a Suarez like replacement? We don't know that the club haven't looked at what would be deemed as a 'marquee' signing.
Costa was always going to Chelsea, not sure who else we could have gone for?
Remember it wasn't the starting XI that was our problem, it was the bench, options to make changes. With the new players and the likes of Ibe & Suso back we will as a squad be a lot stronger.
Some of the other teams has better squads than us last season and we still finished above them. Trust in the manager I say.
With some good fortune and another one or two good players from Southampton they might make the Europa League next season.
Optimistic way of looking at it so fair play but the two main issues/concerns for your team imo will be the loss of Suraez and Gerrards form/fitness/age. The signings so far have added much needed depth but the star quality is now lacking. Suarez's unpredictability and brilliance scared and occupied opposition teams plus giving confidence and belief to his team mates that's gone now will be interesting to see who (Sturridge Sterling) if any can carry that on.
Bob Loblaw is the first Liverpool fan in this thread whose posts don't look like they've been filtered through some bullshit club PR system (e.g. see above).
The debate in here is becoming increasingly circular.
United fan: Liverpool have bought average players and are lost without Suarez
Liverpool fan: Liverpool were more than just one player last season plus our signings are actually pretty good as they contend with the weak squad problem.
United fan: Yeah but replacing a Ferrari with five Minis won't win you the league.
Liverpool fan: Let's see until the season starts before we write off these players.
United fan: I don't need to see the start of the season to know Liverpool are now going to 'slip'
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And it continues...
United fan: Liverpool have bought average players and are lost without Suarez
Liverpool fan: Liverpool were more than just one player last season plus our signings are actually pretty good as they contend with the weak squad problem.
United fan: Yeah but replacing a Ferrari with five Minis won't win you the league.
Liverpool fan: Let's see until the season starts before we write off these players.
United fan: I don't need to see the start of the season to know Liverpool are now going to 'slip'
.And it continues...
The debate in here is becoming increasingly circular.
United fan: Liverpool have bought average players and are lost without Suarez
Liverpool fan: Liverpool were more than just one player last season plus our signings are actually pretty good as they contend with the weak squad problem.
United fan: Yeah but replacing a Ferrari with five Minis won't win you the league.
Liverpool fan: Let's see until the season starts before we write off these players.
United fan: I don't need to see the start of the season to know Liverpool are now going to 'slip'
And it continues...
Obviously nobody really knows what will happen. If I had to make 3 suggestions that I'd be sure upon, they'd be that Liverpool won't be top of the league with only one game left for them to play this season; you won't go on a ten game winning streak again and you won't be so fortunate with your leaky defence being papered over with the free scoring Suarez and soft penalties.
The debate in here is becoming increasingly circular.
United fan: Liverpool have bought average players and are lost without Suarez
Liverpool fan: Liverpool were more than just one player last season plus our signings are actually pretty good as they contend with the weak squad problem.
United fan: Yeah but replacing a Ferrari with five Minis won't win you the league.
Liverpool fan: Let's see until the season starts before we write off these players.
United fan: I don't need to see the start of the season to know Liverpool are now going to 'slip'
And it continues...
True. And once a fill circle is completed, we go again.
That also assumes that Liverpool will have a leaky defence with nothing having changed.
As for the penalty thing, pretty much everyone was a clear penalty. A couple were soft but they often came when result was already secure. Liverpool's aggressive attacking led to an unusual amount. I expect a lot next season as well.
Fixed it for you Krafty.
A more accurate assessment of last season wouldn't you say ?