I think Lambert was OK for the money, as a squad player, but Balotelli just made, and continues to make, no sense
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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Lambert is fine as a 4th choice squad player if they had two or three great strikers to carry the load. Currently they have one pretty good striker who has been injured thus far, and then a lot of nonsense. It seems clear that they sort of expected Lambert to be a surprise gem who would arrive at his beloved Liverpool and prove them all right in their notions of Rodgers being a genius and their club invoking unconditional love and devotion in everyone who comes near, turning coals into diamonds.
7 games in and Balotelli has been around 5/10. Not a disaster but not creating enough danger either. By Christmas it'll be clear whether it was shrewd business or not.
Balotelli was fairly average - good at City (a City side much stronger than Liverpool), average at Milan; why does anybody expect him to be a standout at Liverpool?
Looks like Markovic is out for the next 3-4 weeks with an injury. How has he looked so far this season? Haven't really heard much about him.
Shite. Even RAWK's under no illusion. But he's young though.
Been extremely average. Apart from Manquillo and maybe Moreno, none of their signings have looked good.
Lallana been's excellent considering he's had no preseason. Looks to have slotted right in.
Markovic seems a bit overawed by the Premier League so far, passes the ball too often in situations where he could be a little more aggressive. He's young and new to the league though and has come into an attack with a number of other new players, so I have no worries so far.
Alberto Moreno has looked better than Manquillo I reckon. He's the more spectacular of the two, but both have started well.
If Lallana's performances have been "excellent" then you might have a different definition of excellent than most people.
Is it confirmed that Manquillo has a buy in clause?
Would make absolutely no sense for Atletico to sell one of their better prospects to Liverpool.
There's a few different clauses so could go either way. We have a clause to buy him but they also have a clause to pay us to end the loan next summer.
Lallana has looked good whenever I've seen him for Liverpool. The two fullbacks also. Their other signings look average or poor. Although hard to judge Can as he has probably only made one appearance.
Do you also have different sets of sliding performance scales ? One for Liverpool players, one for other teams and yet another for United players ?
Lallana has looked very very good, even without a pre-season, on your scale that would probably convert to 'Below Average' as he's a Liverpool player, and had he been a United player 'looks brilliant with loads of potential'.
Which his agent has now come out and said The Mirror are talking bollocks as there has never been any request to play a trial.
Nope. I call what I see which you seem incapable to do. I've watched the last four matches and apart from the match against WBA, Lallana hasn't looked impressive.
Furthermore your standards have dripped if you think Lallana had been very very good but what else could be expected of a fanbase who spent whole summer deluding themselves that Suarez won't massively effect them and are now refusing to wake up to reality.
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That'd be alright if he wasn't 26 years old though. If you're spending £25m on a 26 year old, you should expect more of a finished product than Lallana. As it is he's a pretty good player who produces decent goals/assists levels, but not really good enough for a team with the aspirations Liverpool supposedly have.
I don't know any Liverpool fans who think Lallana was a good purchase. It rings of another overpriced English player like Downing or Young, although maybe he'll be a bigger success than either of them (not difficult).
Yep. You definitely have different scales.
I know of only ONE who doesn't really like him !! He missed the start of the season and is only just getting up to peak fitness now. His last 4 matches (Everton as sub, WBA, San Marino and Estonia) have highlighted his superb technical ability (regardless of the quality of the opposition) and I think it's more than fair to add that to last season's form which gained him the England call up. Pleat was absolutely creaming himself re. Lallana throughout both the England games (yeah, I know it's Pleat, but he's not a complete dolt where players are concerned)
£25m on a 26 year old, when you add in the 'English Tax' isn't too far OTT (Di Maria cost you how much ? £55-60m ? Is Lallana not worth less than 50% ?) and I expect that now he is surrounded by better players that he can take the next step. I really do like what I've seen so far and would add him to Moreno + Manquillo as the Summer's best buys.
What? You're kidding right?
Surely you can see the difference in buying one of the best players in the world from the biggest club in the world, and buying an English player who had a pretty good season at a mid table team? That's just a terrible example to use really.
'Superb' is also OTT when describing his technical ability. That's a word that should be reserved for players like Silva, Di Maria, Fabregas. Not Lallana.
He's probably going to be a pretty good player for you, because he's surrounded by players of a similar or lower standard to himself, but he's no world beater, he's not even top class, he's not the sort of player who'll keep you in the top four, and that's the problem. If we spent £25m on a player like Lallana I'd be fairly livid, he's just not good enough to spend money like that if you're a team aiming to get back to the top.
Mate. I think you quite simply have not seen enough of him, he is far above a player 'who had a pretty good season at a mid table team', sorry but that's just a lazy assessment. He has amazing technical skills - yes on a level with those you listed (there is a lot more to a player than just tech skills of course, but his are definitely there - and even beyond in some cases because he is that very very rare beast someone is who genuinely at home shooting, crossing, passing, dribbling, on either foot and is equally as good with both). It wasn't a comparison between the two players (Di Maria) but of their value and as for not keeping us in the Top 4 ... if it was as simple as coming down to just him then, because he will slot seamlessly into our team and add creativity goals and assists, then he's good enough.
I've seen plenty of Lallana. I was a massive fan of Southampton under Poch last season and watched as many of their games as possible. Lallana was a good player for them but nothing special. He had, what, 7 goals and 8 assists in over 40 games? That's bang average. Young and Downing had better stats than that when they were bought, and look how they turned out.
I know it wasn't a comparison between the players, but it was a comparison between their respective prices, was it not?
The bolded part is truly, deeply, and utterly bonkers and you must have an unwavering bias of the highest order if you genuinely believe he is technically on par with the great David Silva.
Yeah, read that earlier.
He really, really doesn't. I genuinely despair that anyone can put Lallana's techincal ability on a par with the likes of David Silva, Fabregas and Di Maria. He is a good player but seriously, he isn't fit to clean their boots.
I think that this is a bid modest. Personally I think that his technical skills are way higher, around Cruyff/Garrincha level.
Accusing me of having different scales of rating players then putting Lallana with the likes of Silva, Di Maria on technical skill. Jesus Christ.
he's probably up there with him too in fairness.
This is a tagline-worthy level of mental.
Silva, di Maria, Fabregas, Lallana. Of course he belongs.
Lallana is on the same technical level as Silva, Di Maria, Fabregas. Now I heard it all..
The funny thing is that I was trying to go to absurd extremes by mentioning those three, as in, there's no fathomable way you can claim this as true. I guess you should never underestimate the naivety of Liverpool fans when it comes to their players.
Will they still believe all that bs they talk when they eventually drop put of the top 4 with their current crop of average?
We really should have gone for Lallana. Why we went for Di Maria I'll never know.
He is genuinely at home shooting, crossing, passing, dribbling, on either foot and is equally as good with both. Is there sthing he isnt good at?
He is genuinely at home shooting, crossing, passing, dribbling, on either foot and is equally as good with both. Is there sthing he isnt good at?
A player of Lallana's quality obviously wants to play CL football and we couldn't offer that. So we had to settle for Di Maria.
I'd put Lallana on the level that Eriksen is right now. He's a tier below the very good playmakers like Isco, Pjanic, Cabaye, ... but he's miles away from the level Di Maria, Fabregas and David Silva are consistently reaching the last few years (Fabregas less so at Barcelona of course). Those last three players can have a big, immediate impact on a team and really take it to another level, whereas I think Lallana is a very good player in a team that's in full flow (like Liverpool was last year and even Southampton to a lesser extent) but won't take his team to the next level all by himself.
Although I agree that Silva has very good technical ability, to me it's not that what sets him apart. His vision and understanding of the game is what really makes him a top notch midfielders and one of the best in the world. Hazard has far more technical skills than Silva or Fabregas, imo.
Although I agree that Silva has very good technical ability, to me it's not that what sets him apart. His vision and understanding of the game is what really makes him a top notch midfielders and one of the best in the world. Hazard has far more technical skills than Silva or Fabregas, imo.
That is so funny on so many levels. I hope next season you get Ronaldo AND Messi on the same principle.
If he was called Ricardo dos Santos Lallinho then we would be talking for him as a potential Ballon d'Or winner. It's ridiculous how we belittle our middle-class English players.
That is so funny on so many levels. I hope next season you get Ronaldo AND Messi on the same principle.
OMG! ROFL!
That's what I hope as well. No doubt 50m Graziano Pelle will become technically better than Messi by that time.