Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Nice of Baines to put all his effort into that penalty like Jagielka did in that world class strike against us. Shaw looks poor, which is not a surprise to me. Always had Utd down to beating Everton who should be fighting relegation this season rightfully so.

But that Utd defence against the 'good' teams they will face now. :drool:
 
The difference between us and the bin dippers is we rode the storm at the end of our game and created far more chances than they did against Everton. Don't forget for the last 15 minutes of their game Everton were attacking well, Everton did the same mid week. Seems to be a thing they do.
 
Hed Zitin said:
The difference between us and the bin dippers is we rode the storm at the end of our game and created far more chances than they did against Everton. Don't forget for the last 15 minutes of their game Everton were attacking well, Everton did the same mid week. Seems to be a thing they do.
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Stats show we had more shots on target against them than you lot did & they had more shots on target against you than us.
Also by ride the storm, basically De Gea saved you.
 
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johnny boy said:
Stats show we had more shots on target against them than you lot did & they had more shots on target against you than us.
Also by ride the storm, basically De Gea saved you.
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De Gea is part of the team. Rather a world class goalkeeper does what he did today, or a top striker scores a winning goal(which Falcao did right after they scored), it's still an amazing trait as a team that aims to win titles. Mignolet could only dream of doing that in your game against Everton.

The chances we had were also a lot more clear cut than yours. We performed very well aside from the last 10 or so minutes.
 
Shark said:
De Gea is part of the team. Rather a world class goalkeeper does what he did today, or a top striker scores a winning goal(which Falcao did right after they scored), it's still an amazing trait as a team that aims to win titles. Mignolet could only dream of doing that in your game against Everton.

The chances we had were also a lot more clear cut than yours. We performed very well aside from the last 10 or so minutes.
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You just changed the goalkeeper comment when you initially said "your goalkeeper would never have done that" - Mignolet did several times last season, including a late penalty save against Stoke.

Not that he isn't flawed in his performances.
 
Apparently a win against Everton can be derailed and be worse than a draw against Everton at home by stats because of more shots on targets and our keeper doing his job as a keeper instead of being a bit shit like Mignolet, ah well. Fact is, we scored more and actually stopped them from equalizing in the last minute which puts us in 4th place and another win, against our "first real test", lovely.
 
I had you winning 5-3 after shit defending from both sides. I got the result and performance right. Score line was well off though.
 
Martinez got his tactics completely wrong in the first half .. I even wondered if Naismith was on the pitch. 2nd half he moved Naismith back to where he should have been all game, where he was against Liverpool, sitting on the DM. An awful Baines penalty (far too close to the keeper - but that's taking nothing away from De Gea who was quite magnificent today including getting down to save the pen.), a terrible Di Maria shot .... which Falcao did well to score from, and those two unbelievable De Gea saves, really gave United a totally undeserved win, however top teams win dirty so there can be no complaints at the end of the day. Nevertheless it was a very entertaining match ! As I think most United matches are going to be this season with Di Maria at one end and that defence at the other.
 
So a lot of Liverpool fans think Origi is the real deal. He's scored 4 in 11 this season for Lille but two of them were penalties. He's young and learning, yes, but I can't shake the feeling he's just a shitter Welbeck.
 
Señor said:
So a lot of Liverpool fans think Origi is the real deal. He's scored 4 in 11 this season for Lille but two of them were penalties. He's young and learning, yes, but I can't shake the feeling he's just a shitter Welbeck.
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Is that an insult?
 
Stick said:
Is that an insult?
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Not really, Welbeck is a good player. So is Origi but he's hardly going to make a big difference to your team. He isn't scoring nearly enough despite leading the line for Lille. He is young though so Pool fans should give him time before calling him the real deal.
 
Rafateria said:
Martinez got his tactics completely wrong in the first half .. I even wondered if Naismith was on the pitch. 2nd half he moved Naismith back to where he should have been all game, where he was against Liverpool, sitting on the DM. An awful Baines penalty (far too close to the keeper - but that's taking nothing away from De Gea who was quite magnificent today including getting down to save the pen.), a terrible Di Maria shot .... which Falcao did well to score from, and those two unbelievable De Gea saves, really gave United a totally undeserved win, however top teams win dirty so there can be no complaints at the end of the day. Nevertheless it was a very entertaining match ! As I think most United matches are going to be this season with Di Maria at one end and that defence at the other.
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Undeserved? We battered them for 80 minutes until we took off Valencia and a few others and then they started to come back at us harder. We held the line and grinded out the win, unlike your team. Completely deserved I say.
 
The Mitcher said:
Undeserved? We battered them for 80 minutes until we took off Valencia and a few others and then they started to come back at us harder. We held the line and grinded out the win, unlike your team. Completely deserved I say.
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You've not met a dipper before, have you? Dipper-logic and dipper-nomics are amazing things to try and comprehend for the non Scouse.
 
Señor said:
Not really, Welbeck is a good player. So is Origi but he's hardly going to make a big difference to your team. He isn't scoring nearly enough despite leading the line for Lille. He is young though so Pool fans should give him time before calling him the real deal.
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In the same way you should give him time before calling him a shitter Wellbeck?
 
Stick said:
In the same way you should give him time before calling him a shitter Wellbeck?
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Well not really because at the moment, that's exactly what he is. He may surpass Welbeck in the future (don't think he will) but at this moment in time, that description fits him perfectly.
 
Señor said:
Well not really because at the moment, that's exactly what he is. He may surpass Welbeck in the future (don't think he will) but at this moment in time, that description fits him perfectly.
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Don't think he will? Based upon what? He isn't even over here yet & he is only 19.
 
johnny boy said:
Don't think he will? Based upon what? He isn't even over here yet.
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Admittedly from the very little I've seen of him at Lille and the WC before that. Plus Liverpool took a punt on him, which more often than not, doesn't work out.
 
johnny boy said:
You just changed the goalkeeper comment when you initially said "your goalkeeper would never have done that" - Mignolet did several times last season, including a late penalty save against Stoke.

Not that he isn't flawed in his performances.
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Let's not compare De Gea to Mignolet.

Rafateria said:
Martinez got his tactics completely wrong in the first half .. I even wondered if Naismith was on the pitch. 2nd half he moved Naismith back to where he should have been all game, where he was against Liverpool, sitting on the DM. An awful Baines penalty (far too close to the keeper - but that's taking nothing away from De Gea who was quite magnificent today including getting down to save the pen.), a terrible Di Maria shot .... which Falcao did well to score from, and those two unbelievable De Gea saves, really gave United a totally undeserved win, however top teams win dirty so there can be no complaints at the end of the day. Nevertheless it was a very entertaining match ! As I think most United matches are going to be this season with Di Maria at one end and that defence at the other.
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Take it you didn't watch the first half where United should have had the game won.
 
Señor said:
Admittedly from the very little I've seen of him at Lille and the WC before that. Plus Liverpool took a punt on him, which more often than not, doesn't work out.
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Sorry but that's just crazy logic, it's far too early to say.
 
Empire said:
Take it you didn't watch the first half where United should have had the game won.
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Isn't that what Rafa is saying? First half Everton were worse than anything QPR 'threw' at you and it was down to the tactically inept Martinez and the Naismith conundrum. You should have killed the game off in the first 25 minutes. The fact you didn't, in the easiest first half you'll get all season (with a self proclaimed world class attack) and then the subsequent butt clenching near the end doesn't quite mark your 'arrival' just yet.

But at the end of the day getting the 3 points was king all round, for you and for us against West Brom. And that's what we both got.
 
Dumbstar said:
Isn't that what Rafa is saying? First half Everton were worse than anything QPR 'threw' at you and it was down to the tactically inept Martinez and the Naismith conundrum. You should have killed the game off in the first 25 minutes. The fact you didn't, in the easiest first half you'll get all season (with a self proclaimed world class attack) and then the subsequent butt clenching near the end doesn't quite mark your 'arrival' just yet.

But at the end of the day getting the 3 points was king all round, for you and for us against West Brom. And that's what we both got.
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He said United got an undeserved win. I replied that in the first half we were much much better and I would not say it was an undeserved win, it was just a win that could have honestly gone either way, certainly not undeserved.

Did I say we have 'arrived', or are you making things up?

Looks like you are jealous that your team couldn't create the chances we did. And then had to rely on your captain to score a free kick, who then used that as an excuse that his legs haven't gone yet (disillusioned Captain, what does the free kick have to do with his running?), and don't forget the manager who celebrated as if he is the second coming of christ, the one that hasn't won a trophy yet.

No wonder Liverpools fans are insane, what with a captain living in cloud cuckoo land and a manager who thinks he's a magician.

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Not been able to watch any football in about 3 weeks. feck knows what's going on.
 
Way too early to write off Origi. IMO he was the best purchase that Liverpool made this summer, problem is that Liverpool had to loan him back as part of the deal.

Lille is like the Aston Villa of Ligue 1 in terms of offensive creativity. He's being somewhat stifled by crap teammates
 
AllezLesDiables said:
Way too early to write off Origi. IMO he was the best purchase that Liverpool made this summer, problem is that Liverpool had to loan him back as part of the deal.

Lille is like the Aston Villa of Ligue 1 in terms of offensive creativity. He's being somewhat stifled by crap teammates
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I haven't seen much of him at Lille but I thought he was very impressive at the World Cup. Reminded me more of a young Thierry Henry. Lukaku, Benteke and Origi should see Belgium set up front for years.
 
My two LFC-supporting mates at work still try to justify all of their signings every time we talk football. To them, pretty much every one was a bargain, they got more than their money's worth, it's just too early to judge anything. They also seem to think they got exactly the right targets, all top of Rodgers' wish list, except maybe Balotelli now that the manager himself has admitted he wasn't first choice.
 
Saxo said:
My two LFC-supporting mates at work still try to justify all of their signings every time we talk football. To them, pretty much every one was a bargain, they got more than their money's worth, it's just too early to judge anything. They also seem to think they got exactly the right targets, all top of Rodgers' wish list, except maybe Balotelli now that the manager himself has admitted he wasn't first choice.
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I've heard that one too. Rodgers has bought all of the 'right' players for his system, while we have panic bought a bunch of overpaid mercenaries that will make no difference, ever. We'll stay shit, while they run off into the sun set yet again when it all clicks.

I can't wait until it inevitably hits them that we're pulling away from them again after only one season in the limelight in years. It'll be comedy gold.
 
Dumbstar said:
Isn't that what Rafa is saying? First half Everton were worse than anything QPR 'threw' at you and it was down to the tactically inept Martinez and the Naismith conundrum. You should have killed the game off in the first 25 minutes. The fact you didn't, in the easiest first half you'll get all season (with a self proclaimed world class attack) and then the subsequent butt clenching near the end doesn't quite mark your 'arrival' just yet.

But at the end of the day getting the 3 points was king all round, for you and for us against West Brom. And that's what we both got.
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:lol:

You'll say the exact same thing the next time we completely dominate a half of football. Everton were just as bad at Anfield, only difference is you lot were dog shite too.
 
Dumbstar said:
Isn't that what Rafa is saying? First half Everton were worse than anything QPR 'threw' at you and it was down to the tactically inept Martinez and the Naismith conundrum. You should have killed the game off in the first 25 minutes. The fact you didn't, in the easiest first half you'll get all season (with a self proclaimed world class attack) and then the subsequent butt clenching near the end doesn't quite mark your 'arrival' just yet.

But at the end of the day getting the 3 points was king all round, for you and for us against West Brom. And that's what we both got.
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We could have killed the game in the first 25. We didn't, and still beat them. All that says is that when Falcao and RVP do click, we'll smash teams who do switch off for 10-25 minutes.
 
iBoss said:
We could have killed the game in the first 25. We didn't, and still beat them. All that says is that when Falcao and RVP do click, we'll smash teams who do switch off for 10-25 minutes.
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All that says is you were very lucky that De Gea pulled off two miraculous saves in stoppage time. It's all in the details, really. I haven't seen a game in which Falcao and RVP did click to be honest, all they seem to do is run in each other's way still. I don't take anything away from your first half performance though, you were very good. Why can't a win be just a win for you guys? It always has to be the start of something or attributed to the connexion between RvP and Falcao for you guys and I can name a few other reasons I've read past week. It was just a regular win at Old Trafford, in which you hung on to the skin of your teeth.
 
RobinLFC said:
All that says is you were very lucky that De Gea pulled off two miraculous saves in stoppage time. It's all in the details, really. I haven't seen a game in which Falcao and RVP did click to be honest, all they seem to do is run in each other's way still. I don't take anything away from your first half performance though, you were very good. Why can't a win be just a win for you guys? It always has to be the start of something or attributed to the connexion between RvP and Falcao for you guys and I can name a few other reasons I've read past week. It was just a regular win at Old Trafford, in which you hung on to the skin of your teeth.
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Maybe it's because we were losing these games at Old Trafford last season and hardly ever dominated a game either. So if you were to go by the start of last season up until now, it's hardly a 'regular' win, is it? also, winning games by the skin of your teeth doesn't automatically erase everything else that happened in a game. I have a major hunch that a lot of Liverpool fans turned off the TV at 1-0 and switched back on near the end when they realised it was 2-1 and judged our whole performance on that.
 
Shark said:
Maybe it's because we were losing these games at Old Trafford last season and hardly ever dominated a game either. So if you were to go by the start of last season up until now, it's hardly a 'regular' win, is it? also, winning games by the skin of your teeth doesn't automatically erase everything else that happened in a game. I have a major hunch that a lot of Liverpool fans turned off the TV at 1-0 and switched back on near the end when they realised it was 2-1 and judged our whole performance on that.
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I watched the whole game. Overal, it was a good performance from United, especially the first half, no doubt about it. And like you say, it should be considered as a good win if you take last season into account, yes. But to conclude from that specific game that you'll smash teams when RvP/Falcao connect and the oppositions switches off during a period of time in the game, I don't really know where you'd get that from. It could very well be the case, let me be clear, but you can't possibly say that based on your game against Everton, that was all I wanted to say.
 
RobinLFC said:
But to conclude from that specific game that you'll smash teams when RvP/Falcao connect and the oppositions switches off during a period of time in the game, I don't really know where you'd get that from.
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Because they score goals? Goals win games? We have the ability to score 3 or 4 goals a game with them two up front in top form?
 
What brings people to staunchly deny the possibility that an attacking force of Rooney, RvP, Falcao, Di Maria and Mata can ravage teams? I mean, nobody is guaranteeing that it will happen, but to sit there and claim that it isn't a realistic idea...
 
Apparently Valdes has turned them down after they asked him to do a four day trial to prove his fitness.
 
RobinLFC said:
All that says is you were very lucky that De Gea pulled off two miraculous saves in stoppage time. It's all in the details, really. I haven't seen a game in which Falcao and RVP did click to be honest, all they seem to do is run in each other's way still. I don't take anything away from your first half performance though, you were very good. Why can't a win be just a win for you guys? It always has to be the start of something or attributed to the connexion between RvP and Falcao for you guys and I can name a few other reasons I've read past week. It was just a regular win at Old Trafford, in which you hung on to the skin of your teeth.
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I've always despised this argument. You were lucky that Dea Gea pulled off 2 saves? That is his bloody job, to make saves. Most keepers in the PL are at the very least outstanding shot stoppers, De Gea, even in his initial iffy phase, has always been one of the best in the league at stopping shots. Part of the reason they spent 18 million on him. A keeper making great saves is no more lucky than a striker scoring a goal, a defender making a header or a midfielder dominating a game in the centre.

Also, while some of their fans are (understandably) trying to look for each win as the beginning of something new, a new era, most of them seem relatively grounded on it tbh. The mentality of 'this is the start of something new' is one I have to say I've noticed more from Liverpool fans.

I will still laugh at those fans though if/ when it doesn't end up being the start of the new era they're imagining.
 
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