Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Rafateria said:
All squads need to have some experienced players though, to help them keep confidence up when something goes awry, it's life experience as much as football experience that is important. Of course in a run-in for the title or cup final then players that have been there, done that, are going to be invaluable. But for the other 95% of the season someone like Lambert in the changing room can only help the youngsters.
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But then why didn't Rodgers sign a winner if he wanted experience?

Lamberts quite possibly panicking as much as anybody else in the squad right now, he's never been in this situation before.
 
Basle and their captain, Strellar have come out and said they targetted Gerrard and Lovren in the mid-week win.
 
Thisistheone said:
Basle and their captain, Strellar have come out and said they targetted Gerrard and Lovren in the mid-week win.
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Hardly a surprise is it? You can bet every single team in the league is going to do the same thing.

Liverpool have an interesting problem with Gerrard. Now people are putting a man on him, or attacking his space, they need to vary their tactics.

But frankly he looks too knackered to be playing a second striker role, or some other attacking position. The deep role suits him. So the only alternative is to consider benching him. But there's no way that Rodgers would have the guts to do that. And Stevie Me ain't gonna be too chuffed either.
 
I still wouldn't write them off. If they exit the CL group stage and then only have the domestics to focus on, they could easily go on a great run like last year.
 
Empire said:
But then why didn't Rodgers sign a winner if he wanted experience?

Lamberts quite possibly panicking as much as anybody else in the squad right now, he's never been in this situation before.
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Right price, decent back-up, low wages .. you're making a huge assumption on him panicking when there is absolutely nothing to even suggest that ;)
 
If Rodgers wanted an experienced head why would he choose Lambert? I can't imagine our younger players looking up to a player who has less top level experience than them. Can you?

I think Lambert would have been an alright back-up if we had got the type of striker we actually needed (mobile, versatile) instead of Balotelli. Buying both of them makes Lambert redundant though, he can't offer anything different and the two of them aren't suited to playing alongside each other.

Pretty poor transfer planning.
 
gasmanc said:
That's unarguable and it's a perfect career summary, he will give you the best and worst of himself no matter where he is.
Gerrard though, the longer you play him the better for me as a United fan, he's literally playing every game in a congested season and he's learning a role where mistakes kill you. Physical tiredness has a direct affect on your decision making and thought speed, Gerrards living proof at the minute.
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The thing is he does look physically tired but I wonder is it more. Almost a mental tiredness. I hope he can turn it around as he's been fantastic for Liverpool but at the moment I don't think he's doing a great job. Mind you who is for Liverpool at the moment.
 
Decotron said:
Exactly, he's familiar with the club and a life long supporter :angel:
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haha isnt he a life long support of Wolves, Coventry, Inter, Leeds, Spurs, Liverpool, Villa, LA Galaxy and ***insert name of next club here****
Robbie is gone way past it unfortunately and I don't think signing an experience Premiere League winner up front is necessary but someone who is a busy forward capable of scoring a few would be nice. Balotelli is a force of nature and works well when he is the main star but Rodgers built his side on all players grafting and being potential threats or worker bees. It's just not happening at the moment. Suarez perfectly fit the mould and we're really struggling without him.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/02/liverpool-five-areas-urgent-attention

Interesting point here. Maybe the Liverpool supporters can expand on this. I'm curious if they too think there's problems between the players.

Friction within the squad
It was interesting to hear Rodgers’ appeal to the collective after the defeat at St Jakob Park. “It is vitally important we get back to playing as a team,” he said. “That was the huge advantage we had over the last 18 months and it is important we work together as a team.” That line came in a lament over Liverpool’s technical work this season, specifically the lack of it, but followed a night when Balotelli ignored the manager’s request to go to the travelling supporters after the final whistle, Coutinho angrily exchanged words with Rodgers during the game and blanked his manager when substituted, and Gerrard was involved in another dispute with Mignolet after a mistake on the edge of the area. They are all signs of understandable frustration but following Mamadou Sakho’s walk-out when told he was not in the matchday squad against Everton on Saturday, and Lambert’s admission that his fitness regime needs looking at as he struggles to adapt to a lesser role with his boyhood club, the harmony that went hand-in-hand with a winning team last season was not in evidence in Switzerland.
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KiD MoYeS said:
Good... Good... *rubs hands menacingly*
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Melvyn said:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/oct/02/liverpool-five-areas-urgent-attention

Interesting point here. Maybe the Liverpool supporters can expand on this:
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I don't have any ITK stuff but I wouldn't say some of those points are bad. Obviously Balotelli not going to the supporters is a bit silly on his part but I like when players get annoyed when substituted much more than if a lad slinks off like a shrinking violet. Also the verbals between the club Captain and a player on the pitch are standard. You expect to hear from the experienced lads if you make a bad decision and Mignolet choosing to pass to Gerard when he was surrounded by Basle players was something that needed to be pointed out. The Sakho walk out was stupid of him and he himself has said that but yes all these things coming to a head in a couple of weeks does worry me. Listening to Rodgers post match was a bit odd too. Talking about the defending on corners is poor and we'll address it this week when we've been poor defending set pieces since day one of this season. I think Mignolet may be at fault in some ways as he doesnt have the big personality of commanding goalies and looks like he can be got at. I would love to see us add a Tim Krul or another big presence to the squad to put pressure on Mignolet to perform a bit more or man up a bit.
 
Stick said:
The thing is he does look physically tired but I wonder is it more. Almost a mental tiredness. I hope he can turn it around as he's been fantastic for Liverpool but at the moment I don't think he's doing a great job. Mind you who is for Liverpool at the moment.
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I think despite his bad game in Europe Sterling has been very good on the whole but just shades recently his power is diminishing, he needs Sturridge back sharpish.

That's what I as saying about Gerrards tiredness, physical tiredness affects the mind and body, if you've ever played the game, there are some things, some mistakes you make towards the end of games that you just wouldn't make at the start. That's enhanced when you go into the game tired in the first place. Couple that with a player who must have had the ego sucked out of him late last season and you end up with the player we're seeing now. He needs urgent resting to recover his mind and body.
 
What's Delli Alli like? Has he played against anyone decent this season?

I mean properly decent? :p
 
gasmanc said:
I think despite his bad game in Europe Sterling has been very good on the whole but just shades recently his power is diminishing, he needs Sturridge back sharpish.

That's what I as saying about Gerrards tiredness, physical tiredness affects the mind and body, if you've ever played the game, there are some things, some mistakes you make towards the end of games that you just wouldn't make at the start. That's enhanced when you go into the game tired in the first place. Couple that with a player who must have had the ego sucked out of him late last season and you end up with the player we're seeing now. He needs urgent resting to recover his mind and body.
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I couldn't agree more with you......................i feel dirty
 
Stick said:
I don't have any ITK stuff but I wouldn't say some of those points are bad. Obviously Balotelli not going to the supporters is a bit silly on his part but I like when players get annoyed when substituted much more than if a lad slinks off like a shrinking violet. Also the verbals between the club Captain and a player on the pitch are standard. You expect to hear from the experienced lads if you make a bad decision and Mignolet choosing to pass to Gerard when he was surrounded by Basle players was something that needed to be pointed out. The Sakho walk out was stupid of him and he himself has said that but yes all these things coming to a head in a couple of weeks does worry me. Listening to Rodgers post match was a bit odd too. Talking about the defending on corners is poor and we'll address it this week when we've been poor defending set pieces since day one of this season. I think Mignolet may be at fault in some ways as he doesnt have the big personality of commanding goalies and looks like he can be got at. I would love to see us add a Tim Krul or another big presence to the squad to put pressure on Mignolet to perform a bit more or man up a bit.
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One of key things Rodgers brought Liverpool was unity and team spirit. He brought a togetherness and belief that was missing for a long long time. I think he's genuinely risking all of that with the Balotelli signing. Hes such a poor role model for the talented younger players at the club.

I know there wasn't many other options at the time but he was aware of Sturridge's injury record long before this summer so I don't buy that excuse.

I can still you lot returning to Southampton for Rodriquez in January.
 
Decotron said:
One of key things Rodgers brought Liverpool was unity and team spirit. He brought a togetherness and belief that was missing for a long long time. I think he's genuinely risking all of that with the Balotelli signing. Hes such a poor role model for the talented younger players at the club.

I know there wasn't many other options at the time but he was aware of Sturridge's injury record long before this summer so I don't buy that excuse.

I can still you lot returning to Southampton for Rodriquez in January.
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Yeah I think you're right there. I'm not sure how to get the best out of Balotelli. Maybe use him as an impact sub. Going back to southampton again would be giving more ammunition to the press though. What about the belgian lad we signed. Can we bring him back to the club to play or is he on loan for the season?
 
Rafateria said:
Right price, decent back-up, low wages .. you're making a huge assumption on him panicking when there is absolutely nothing to even suggest that ;)
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Everybody posting on here makes assumptions.

If Rodgers brought him in so he could be like Giggs or Scholes at United, or Gerrard at Liverpool, then he made an error of judgement. As it is, I doubt that's the reason for his signature. He is signed to put the ball in the back of the net, to come off the bench when you need a goal, and if Liverpool get back to winning ways then this is exactly what he will do.

Signing Xabi Alonso or somebody would be getting the experienced player. Just because a player is old does not make that player experienced, Phil Jones has more experience than Lambert at this level.
 
Liverpool official site said:
Liverpool Football Club are delighted to announce Daniel Sturridge has signed a new long-term contract.


The 25-year-old has committed his future to the Reds by penning the deal at Melwood today.

Sturridge joined the Reds from Chelsea in January 2013 and has scored an incredible 36 goals in just 52 appearances for the club, while also firmly establishing himself as an England international.

Shortly after putting pen to paper on the deal, the striker told Liverpoolfc.com: "It feels great. It's a big, big day in my life to commit to this club and to give the club my best years, which are ahead of me.

"I am thankful for the opportunity and that is the reason I committed my future. Everyone has been great with me, from the fans to the staff to the players, so it was an easy decision. I'm happy with how everything is going."

Sturridge's 21 goals in the Barclays Premier League last season made him the division's leading English goalscorer.

The No.15 has missed Liverpool's last six matches due to an injury, but is closing in on a return to action - and he is clear in what he's hoping to achieve over the course of his new deal.

Sturridge said: "There are a lot of things I'm happy with how they've gone so far, but there is a lot to come. I've not shown yet what I can do - what I'm doing is just the start for me.

"I may have had some good games and scored some goals, but literally this is the beginning in terms of what I can show. I don't feel I've shown really what I can do as a footballer. I am looking forward to the hard work, the training, the games and everything - and looking forward to the future."

He added: "We were so close to success last season and it was a bitter pill to take not winning the league, but that's just a taster of what the fans will get - but hopefully this time we'll have the trophies to show for it.

"Everyone is very obsessive in terms of wanting success and being winners. That's what we are - that's the Liverpool Way."
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It's funny. They have savaged their way through the Southampton first team yet ignored the one player that genuinely would have improved them considerably: Morgan Schneiderlin.

Lovren had half a successful season and hasn't been convincing so far. Lallana is a good footballer but, unsurprisingly, all he has done so far is 'look good' while offering nothing in terms of numbers. And as for Lambert, he's at Liverpool on the back of his birthplace. Southampton have replaced him with a younger player of a similar type.

At least Schneiderlin would improved that defensive midfield area they struggle in. Gerrard could play further forward and the rest of the team would benefit as a result. What Emre Can can do remains to be seen.
 
Empire said:
Everybody posting on here makes assumptions.

If Rodgers brought him in so he could be like Giggs or Scholes at United, or Gerrard at Liverpool, then he made an error of judgement. As it is, I doubt that's the reason for his signature. He is signed to put the ball in the back of the net, to come off the bench when you need a goal, and if Liverpool get back to winning ways then this is exactly what he will do.

Signing Xabi Alonso or somebody would be getting the experienced player. Just because a player is old does not make that player experienced, Phil Jones has more experience than Lambert at this level.
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You are completely ignoring the point I made about 'life' experience. In fact a player that's been there/done that when a team is having problems is probably more valuable than a Giggs or Scholes who have known nothing but success, in our current situation.
 
Any ITK Liverpool fans - is Sturridge likely to play tomorrow? Rooney needs to go from my FF team and its Sturridge or Aguero to come in. Liverpool's next 4 games are better than City's.
 
Rafateria said:
You are completely ignoring the point I made about 'life' experience. In fact a player that's been there/done that when a team is having problems is probably more valuable than a Giggs or Scholes who have known nothing but success, in our current situation.
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So you think having Lambert's experience is superior to having Giggs or Scholes? :lol:

I'm amazed.
 
FC Ronaldo said:
Any ITK Liverpool fans - is Sturridge likely to play tomorrow? Rooney needs to go from my FF team and its Sturridge or Aguero to come in. Liverpool's next 4 games are better than City's.
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No one can predict I'm afraid, we don't even know. Obviously we hope he starts. But I would pick Aguero if you can afford him as he's going to blast 20 past Villa now that they've done their one giant killing game of the half season (i.e. man marked Gerrard to beat us, woohoo).

Liverpool are hardly on top of their goalscoring at the moment. Maybe next month might a good time to get Sturridge too.
 
gasmanc said:
Your much better having failures to aspire to than multi league title winners, it's just not caught on yet.
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He also likes the 'life' experience Lambert brings. Well maybe while he is giving his team mates lessons on how to be a good dad, we're winning football matches.
 
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