You could work with the fact that you lost your only world class player and United brought in two. Your squad is just ordinary. City/Chelsea would only take Sterling and Sturridge(as back up to Augero/Costa). You lack quality all over the pitch. It will show this season without Suarez.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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You could work with the fact that you lost your only world class player and United brought in two. Your squad is just ordinary. City/Chelsea would only take Sterling and Sturridge(as back up to Augero/Costa). You lack quality all over the pitch. It will show this season without Suarez.
Not quantifiable, though I have done my own figures and predicted we'll lose 12 (realistic) points without Suarez. But no one wants to hear my details on that so I won't bother.
You can only quantify the results that have happened. Buying the whole world cannot change the results that have happened (unless you're PSG or City obviously, then the FA/Uefa can arrange something).
It's true, the league table will more or less be the same next season but Liverpool will pick up two more points than last. They'll probably lose the league on goal difference due to a lack of Suarez's goals though, unfortunately.
I reckon we'll finish on 72 points - ish. Whether its enough for CL we'll see. Can't see why not.
Is he to succeed Stevie as captain then?
Is he to succeed Stevie as captain then?
Fcking hope he is the next captain!! Go Hendo!!!
Obviously that's mostly a load of shite but how do you figure he had a comparatively good start to last season when those games you're comparing weren't at the start of the season?
Henderson is far too gormless to lead anything.
Honest question for you mancs. Considering how much you paid for Fellaini, Herrera and Blind, how much would you pay to have Henderson in your team? Be honest.
The two statements were meant to be mutally exclusive but I can see the misunderstanding. As I was digging out these results I was shocked at how many victories Moyes got early on. He had a very decent start.
Is he to succeed Stevie as captain then?
Don't think it's a bad shout, a bit like us when trying to choose a captain, who else can they turn too? Glen Johnson? Skrtel? Mignolet? Sturridge? None of them stand out for me... Henderson gets so much stick on here he's a good midfielder.
Wouldn't sign him, but I wouldn't pay more than 10M for him. 15M at the max for the United fan. In reality he's probably around 20M max in today's market
Yeah, looking at their squad he was probably the right choice. But Henderson, future Liverpool captain? I mean, as good a player as he is he's not great.
So would he not be an automatic starter AHEAD of Herrera and Blind?
@KiD MoYeS saying Henderson is "not that great" is like saying Raheem Sterling is just a slightly better version of Defoe.
If you'd put a bit more effort into your wum you would've used Norwich as the Burnley equivalent. We beat them.
10 million, are you serious
If you think losing 3 and drawing 1 out of the first six games is very decent then I'm convinced you're on a wum. Even the two wins against Swansea and Palace were far from convincing.
So would he not be an automatic starter AHEAD of Herrera and Blind?
Fvck no! You're a funny man
He's not got the brain to play in the system unfortunately.So would he not be an automatic starter AHEAD of Herrera and Blind?
I'd have him, but not ahead of Herrera, Blind or di Maria. Probably spend about £20 million on him, I'd be happy with him replacing Carrick, Fellaini, Fletcher and Anderson in the squad.
10 million, are you serious
I edited the original post. I wouldn't pay more than 10M for him personally.
We battered Swansea on the opening day.
Going forward, of sorts yeah. Swansea had more than enough chances. The scoreline flattered us that day.
Actually you're right. Sorry will update. Leicester are much better than Burnley so no way you can compare them with Norwich.
On that sidenote, can't wait for that Leicester match next week actually.
Its getting late, you're right. I was trying to overlook the obvious places Moyes was crap but he was actually just crap.
Well he isn't 'great'. Sterling is great, di Maria is great. Henderson isn't.So would he not be an automatic starter AHEAD of Herrera and Blind?
@KiD MoYeS saying Henderson is "not that great" is like saying Raheem Sterling is just a slightly better version of Defoe.
Yet Henderson is more crucial to our team than Sterling....
Just because a player is more important than another, doesn't mean he's superior.
Jordan Henderson under Brendan Rodgers, Premier League -
69 appearances
60.9% win rate
9 goals
100 chances created
Courtesy of squawka. He has a fair few assists too. Just his goals tally that is lacking.
69 appearances
60.9% win rate
9 goals
100 chances created
Courtesy of squawka. He has a fair few assists too. Just his goals tally that is lacking.
Is he to succeed Stevie as captain then?
Wonder if the timing of that announcement means Gerrard will be rested tomorrow?
But yeah, either way I'm happy with the choice. Henderson deserves it.
This proves what exactly? He's a very good player, but not a great player in my opinion. Perhaps you are more lenient with the word.
It wasn't meant to prove anything. If I was responding to you, I would have quoted you (trying to word that without sounding like a cnut).
Surely there is no chance Gerrard doesn't start on our return to the Champions league?
Anyone looking from the outside would take Sterling over Henderson, I don't think there's much of a debate there.
Ah, fair enough. Apologies.
I'm not sure I want to really ask, but exchanging palace for QPR ... Really, I would have thought Fulham would be more apt seeing as they are a west London aging squad with limited pace managed by a firmer spurs manager... Though, that we drew with Fulham at home will surely spoil your narrative here.
So when we actually play palace do we play palace or are we playing 2006's Sheffield United?
Yeah you're probably right. If he's not up to 3 games in a week though then it'd make more sense to rest him tomorrow than against West Ham.
The fact he's one of the few with a lot of CL experience means he'll most likely start I guess.
Out of all possible things you criticise his football intelligence? That is probably his strongest feature. Henderson is a role player and a crucial part of their pressing approach. This comes mostly down to his off the ball movement and the way he closes down passing options of the competition and covers his team mates. You can´t play his role that well without a pretty high level of anticipation and the ability to read the game.
I don´t think he would suit United, though, unless Van Gaal changes his known approach from scratch. The role Henderson excells at does not currently exist in United´s system, which is by no means more complex or demanding as Pool´s btw.
Nice throwback pic of Liverpool's new vice-captain.
Fvck no! You're a funny man
Yes he would.
Right now he's the only PL proven player out of those three and was great last season. Blind and Herrera are TBA - this should be re-visited come the end of the season.
Having said that I'm not surprised by your post.