Matt851
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No real outstanding attributes and too often a liability. Typical United material
Great attitude and good passing. Unfortunately, it doesn't make up for his severe lack of pace and height. Especially not in this system where he's expected to defend the channels.
It’s a massive worry the point around the channels… with Shaw never fit, is LCB another position to add to the summer shopping list?
This squad has some pretty big misalignments with this system.
It’s a massive worry the point around the channels… with Shaw never fit, is LCB another position to add to the summer shopping list?
This squad has some pretty big misalignments with this system.
He was having similar problems in a back 4, the back 3 obviously exaggerates it even more but he is just very limited in terms of his mobility. Factor in the lack of height and I think we need an upgrade.
Yes, it's one of the biggest priorities without a doubt. A new LCB with a better physical profile is need no matter what, even if Amorim has some plan to accomodate Martínez to not be a detriment to the team when we lose the ball. I hope that's the case, otherwise the sooner we find a buyer for him, the more money we'll salvage out of him.
He has regressed massively from 1st season through to now. He has no spikes in his game anymore, so the traits that were lauded initially, can no longer be and then we're left with a problematic player in a backline due to his numerous weaknesses. So a lot has changed in his time here and that should be acknowledged.Anyone remember how a number of folks on here considered him to be world-class and him being injured the reason for the poor results last season?
Arteta wanted him to play LB for Arsenal for a reason...what he brings in the build-up cannot be overstated IMO...but asking him to cover big spaces quickly or to win aerial duels vs players like Milenkovic...it's just exposing his weaknesses.
Didnt do well enough on the corner, it was a mismatch but we didnt see enough effort and application to at least try and compete with Milenkovic
3rd goal I blamed him soley when I first saw it, but now I think Onana and De Ligt sold him out. One of them could easily have made contact and they both left it thinking it wasnt dangerous. He didnt react fast and clear it, but if he had it would have been great defensive play
The ball went right between De Ligt and Onana as they both left it. The only reason "Lisandro was there". He was steps behind them and not an issueThere was nothing Onana could do Martinez was there and should have made what was an easy clearance but didnt
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Are people trying to get rid of him while Lindelöf and Maguire is still here. Today was an anomoly he’s not this bad usually. He is short though thats an issue in itself but he’s not a bad defender in general.
In a back 4, things are different and the FB will cover a lot of contentious issues whilst the CB stays pretty much tucked and relatively safe, not really having to cover acres of space if the midfielders are also doing their jobs. In a back 3, unless the CB in the middle, the flanking CB's have to cover a lot more space, face more 1on1's as well as targeted, isolated attacks if there's a sniff of vulnerability.Are people trying to get rid of him while Lindelöf and Maguire is still here. Today was an anomoly he’s not this bad usually. He is short though thats an issue in itself but he’s not a bad defender in general.
Sell them in January and bring in some real quality to get us out of this mess.Apparently Real Madrid are after him and Dalot!
https://tbrfootball.com/real-madrid...the-best-player-in-the-world-in-his-position/
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I don't think anyone is wanting lindelof to stay but more so that we need to move on Martinez while he still has value if he doesn't fit in the future plansAre people trying to get rid of him while Lindelöf and Maguire is still here. Today was an anomoly he’s not this bad usually. He is short though thats an issue in itself but he’s not a bad defender in general.
He can't play in a back 3. Maguire for all his faults can still cover centrally in a back 3. Martinez is too small to play centre back in a 3 and too slow to play left side in a 3.Are people trying to get rid of him while Lindelöf and Maguire is still here. Today was an anomoly he’s not this bad usually. He is short though thats an issue in itself but he’s not a bad defender in general.
Were you around when we had two bids for Braithwaite knocked back?It’s a massive worry the point around the channels… with Shaw never fit, is LCB another position to add to the summer shopping list?
This squad has some pretty big misalignments with this system.
Pep should be interested as he stated he was in the top 5 CBs in the worldI don't think anyone is wanting lindelof to stay but more so that we need to move on Martinez while he still has value if he doesn't fit in the future plans