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No ![Frown :( :(](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
Probably wasn't completely healed - which to be honest, is really irresponsible from the club.
Especially considering Argentina took one look at him as asked him not to play
Probably wasn't completely healed - which to be honest, is really irresponsible from the club.
Especially considering Argentina took one look at him as asked him not to play
ETH playing injured players. It's like everything people critisied Ole for doing he does as well.
Fair enough, but let's not forget that Lisandro had to miss a game or 2 even after his return, which suggests (to me at least) things were obviously not completely sorted.I don't think it's that simple. Sometimes these things aren't clear, no matter how many x-rays and scans you do. Then the only option might be some kind of exploratory surgery, but you'd always want that to be the last option.
It seems like there's obviously been some kind of complication and the foot hasn't healed as well as they'd have liked. This happens, the human body isn't a machine. They've tried to monitor it with the player but they're probably relying on his feedback more than anything. Players want to play, for better or worse, and Martinez was unlikely to want to take 2/3 months off from playing.
They've tried it one way to see if it'll improve, but that obviously hasn't happened and now he's going to have to miss football and let it heal in its own time. They haven't mentioned surgery I don't think, but we can't rule that out either, if there's no improvement in the next few weeks.
It's just very unfortunate.
The manager has a medical dept to advise him. Unless you are aware of EtH going against advice?I think the problem just lies at a higher level. Player welfare isn't a concern at the club, and nobody at the club is willing to "manage" the manager.
ETH playing injured players. It's like everything people critisied Ole for doing he does as well.
Come on..
Might never recover I fear. Certainly not to the level of before.
Simple metatarsal is one thing, if it's a Jones fracture then it's a much worse prognosis. Happens in the NFL and takes much longer to return.From a metatarsal break? My gran recovered from one at 83. I think he’ll be fine, clearly just rushed back and overplayed.
Both our first choice CBs - Varane and Martinez are injury prone. Also, our first choice LB - Shaw is made of glass. That 3/4 of our entire backline. Even our 2nd string CB Lindelof is injury prone. WTF is going on.
Dalot is the only defender can stay healthy. Maguire and Evan are emergency covers.
It will be a roller coaster season especially our attacks are also shit.
Both our first choice CBs - Varane and Martinez are injury prone. Also, our first choice LB - Shaw is made of glass. That 3/4 of our entire backline. Even our 2nd string CB Lindelof is injury prone. WTF is going on.
Dalot is the only defender can stay healthy. Maguire and Evan are emergency covers.
It will be a roller coaster season especially our attacks are also shit.
So rushed back like I said?Simple metatarsal is one thing, if it's a Jones fracture then it's a much worse prognosis. Happens in the NFL and takes much longer to return.
No, more just a complicated surgery and complicated return that you can't really tell until it's testedSo rushed back like I said?
No it's a very complex injury, unfortunate these things happen.So rushed back like I said?
Contrary to what some on here argue he was an outstanding defender for us last season, easily up there with Casemiro, Rashford and Bruno as one of our best players, and I just assumed that he was playing with an injury this season because he really wasn't looking his best. Horrible news but it does explain a lot.
Breaking your foot is hardly injury prone mate. Considering it's the same injury and not muscular, I;m sure it can be managed to full fitness.
Varane on the other hand is injury prone.
How was he allowed to play after the Arsenal game if he had reported an injury setback and needed rest? I wonder who's fault is this? Medical staff? ETH?
Such a shame, center back has become a priority as soon as possible(January). But I suspect we won't have the money in January to bring anyone with Glazers still around.
I also wonder if Lisandro has just become injury prone and may never return to the pre-injury level, form again...
We have had injury prone CBs like Bailly, Jones and now Varane. But both Maguire and Lindelof have stayed very fit and it’s too early to judge Martinez as it seem to be the same injury. Although he was also out for some time the season before in Holland.Both our first choice CBs - Varane and Martinez are injury prone. Also, our first choice LB - Shaw is made of glass. That 3/4 of our entire backline. Even our 2nd string CB Lindelof is injury prone. WTF is going on.
Dalot is the only defender can stay healthy. Maguire and Evan are emergency covers.
It will be a roller coaster season especially our attacks are also shit.
I hope the talk of him playing on for extra games whilst feeling the injury aren't right. That's Ole/Rashford territory and reflects horrendously on the manager.
Better he takes the requisite time to get back as best as he feels than rush and have recurrence.
Fair comment on the fitness aspect. Players should nearly always be ignored when it comes to their excitable fitness declarations, however.If this was a regular thing like with Ole (Rashford and Martial) then this would be a fair assumption but (unfortunately) we actually have a lot of past experience to draw some reasonable conclusions regarding fitness under ETH. Loads of players have had to prove their fitness and match sharpness time and time again, sitting out games or being 'slowly' introduced back to the first team; Martinez even experienced this himself post world cup where he had to sit out a few games.
The most likely reason of this scenario is the warrior mentality Martinez has, on wanting to play AND the fact we had no one else other then Evans, Maguire and Lindelof to rely on.
Hasn't looked right since his return. Hopefully he'll be back fully fit next time.
Fair comment on the fitness aspect. Players should nearly always be ignored when it comes to their excitable fitness declarations, however.
No, more just a complicated surgery and complicated return that you can't really tell until it's tested
So if it is the more complex injury, it isn’t something that we’d be expecting United’s medical team to pick up originally? We had to wait until he re-injured it before working it out?No it's a very complex injury, unfortunate these things happen.