what are ambitious appointment that has a chance coming to United ?
Life after ETH — the next United manager
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I think I would give up all hope for this club if we rehired Ole. We're already the biggest banter club going, but that would help elevate us up further levels. Luckily, it's clearly utter bollox.
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Or giving Ten Hag a contract extension after scouting around for alternatives.The signing of Zirkzee didn't give it away, mate?
I realize that was likely how it went about(in fact I posted several time last spring that the reason Ten Hag wasn't sacked was because there was nobody in position to sack him), but it means they left the club for half a year with noone in position to make meaningful decisions. They wasted lots of time. Effectively they wasted one and a half year with massive damage done to the club in the meantime.
Ole was hugely underestimated. It was he who took on assistants who actually went on to become decent managers in their own right. We need a manager with personality as well as nous. It can't be Van Nistelrooy. Cheap option and soiled by this season's farce
Aye the fact some seem warm to it as well, even if it’s in a behind the scene role it’s madness.
Technically Terzic decided to resign. But there was a huge "end of the road" feeling around that as Dortmund failed to develop a dominant style of play and to often failed. It was overshadowed a bit by the CL final, but finishing fifth in the league just wasn't good enough, after failing to grab the title on the final matchday the season before it also was a kind of backwards development.
On the other hand Dortmund gave the job to Nuri Sahin, who joined as a new assistant to Terzic in the winter and allegedly should especially improve their possession play to become more dominant. It's safe to say now that that has failed as well.
Bigger club? Nowadays City's revenues surpassed us. They are also winning titles year in year out. Play modern attacking football. Very well run club with lots of star players.
Compared to us? No chance. Amorim will rather wait a few more months. Also, the new DOF of City is Amorim's close mate. It's done deal.
Why?
You must live in a parallel universum. He was horrible, accept it and move on.
I hope the next appointment works out for once. After 12 years of shit managers, we must get it right at least once
Amorim is obviously going to be the flavour most want us to go for. I’ve seen a few tweets questioning how it is different to when we brought in EtH, given the league and his success there.
Such a short-sighted take imo. To break the stronghold of Porto and Benfica after a 21 year league title exile is pretty big.
For what it’s worth at this point in the season I don’t see how we bring in a manager who isn’t a free agent. I don’t even think it would be particularly straightforward to get Thomas Frank given the uncertainties of this place.
Such a short-sighted take imo. To break the stronghold of Porto and Benfica after a 21 year league title exile is pretty big.
For what it’s worth at this point in the season I don’t see how we bring in a manager who isn’t a free agent. I don’t even think it would be particularly straightforward to get Thomas Frank given the uncertainties of this place.
Why is Southgate not an option?
Surely people would want to see what he is about?
Surely people would want to see what he is about?
Those are normal timeframes for bringing in people in those kind of positions. Anyway, the problem was not Ineos, the problem was that previously the club was so dysfunctional that the team couldn't be trusted to handle picking the new manager. Unless we wanted John Murtogh picking the next guy, we had little choice but to wait.
Fair. He did win a title.
I think its just that fact i see him as a miserable little so and so. I just dont think he is a good fit for us.
Thomas Frank is a very good coach. What he has done at little Brentford is astonishing really. Has the personality to do it. Gets best out of non-entity players. Tactically astute. Can he manage egos? Can he step up to a big club? Well that may be the downside but then nobody fits perfectly. I wouldn't be against him. Certainly a better vet for me than a Southgate or Potter albeit rewires compensation payment as he I'd contacted to summer 2027. But won't be on megabucks.
If we can give comp for Dan Ashworth then we should go for it. He will realistically come too. Other big names mentioned aren't a shoe-in.
I watched a YT video about his tactics last night funnily enough, and parts of it I liked the sound of as he naturally likes to dominate possession, however other parts sounded horribly similar to ETH’s 4141 tactics from last year and leaving huge gaps in midfield. Maybe Xavi could implement it more effectively that ETH but there’s also a huge risk it doesn’t and he ends up lacking the tactical nous to adjust.
I’m not against Xavi, but he’s maybe 5th or 6th on my list of realistic targets.
If we wait for a big name then we're either gonna have to pay a big amount or wait until the end of the season.
That means we have to play 75% of the season with an interim manager.
If that interim does well, then we may not go for our main target.
Not sacking Ten Hag at the end of last season has created such a big problem that only splashing out large amounts of money, that will effect our transfer kitty, will be able to fix.
That means we have to play 75% of the season with an interim manager.
If that interim does well, then we may not go for our main target.
Not sacking Ten Hag at the end of last season has created such a big problem that only splashing out large amounts of money, that will effect our transfer kitty, will be able to fix.
Don't think you'll last long on here at this rate
Completly agree.
It is really lazy to just assume that Amorim is just like ETH because of sucess in smaller Erupean leagues. And you are right. Sporting are very much the third team in Portugal. They won a couple of titles around 2000 under Mario Jardel, then you have to go back to 1982 when they last won a title.
Ten Hag had the biggest club in Holland with a large talent pool.
Ole won’t happen. Luckhurst is a shit stirrer
Finishing 16th in the league last season is astonishing? Is this what the standards are now at United?
Whoever comes in; I hope that they have the balls to drop Whoever is not performing (be that Bruno, Rashford or Casimero) give youth a chance and be flexible in formations
In a similar way to politicians spotted jogging when there’s a leadership challenge Look out for out of work managers dropping hints.
How do you propose that we can do that? After all the Glazers didn’t want to relinquish control by selling up.
Well then
My prediction is that both Southgate and Ole will be offered roles or functions at United. They have good chemistry and minus + minus = plus
That's what the supposedly best-in-class structure is here for - to find out. I said my preferences - Nagelsmann and Inzaghi. Maybe Zidane, although I think that's a no-go, but who knows? Tuchel before, but that ship sailed due to INEOS's indolence. Amorim, maybe.
All I know is Xavi and Frank aren't it. Xavi did well enough at Barcelona, but not really wildly successful, and they were quite dull to watch more often than not. I can't handle that again after Ten Hag. Besides, his style demands quality passing and control, which is probably the absolute worst attribute of this United squad. Players like Bruno Fernandes, Ugarte, Rashford, Dalot, amongst others, just can't do that. And it would be pretty worrisome if INEOS get him after extending Fernandes, not selling Rashford, and bringing Ugarte. These are not Xavi players and it suggest complete lack of planning.
Frank just isn't a top manager. He belongs where he is and is doing fine there. I'd take Xavi ahead of him if given the choice.
I don't know what video you watched, because in his title winning season at least, this is the exact opposite of what he did. He played with a midfield box, and having 4 players in the midfield meant they dominated that area and had an insanely good defensive record. Their problem was that they were boring in attack.
Time for the best in class to deliver. They need to convince one of the top options to quit their current job. Nagelsmann or Amorim for me.
We still are and always will be a bigger clubs. Let’s not get mistaken with ‘bigger’ and ‘better’ if pep signs a new deal then Amorim won’t wait another full season if we want him in the summer. My point is he will jump at the first chance he gets at signing for a massive club.
Not getting my hopes up for Amorim at all.
Put yourself in his shoes, he’s rocking at Sporting and in no rush to leave - he can take this United job now or very very likely just finish the season and take the City job.
We’re obviously biased on this forum, but from his perspective it’s an absolute no brainier to just take over City next summer.
What happens if Pep doesn’t leave next summer? Stay at Sporting or take the United job.
It would be nice to know that we at least approached Xavi Alonso and Amorim, even if I expect then not to be interested (think their eyes are elsewhere)
I'd take Jose back ahead of Ole!
I'm actually a bit underwhelmed with the decision now that it has come.
1) It should have been at the end of last season, FA Cup or no FA Cup.
2) We lost the last game because of poor shooting and poor reffing, it wasn't a total embarrassment. So it seems like a bit of an odd day to do it.
3) We have all known for months and months, if not longer, that ETH had to go and INEOS sack him without a replacement in place.
It seems very amateurish and disorganized. INEOS promised best in the world football club management but this isn't it. Sacking ETH without a replacement being immediately in place is just poor organization, which doesn't give me any confidence that the next stage of their decision making process will be any better.
1) It should have been at the end of last season, FA Cup or no FA Cup.
2) We lost the last game because of poor shooting and poor reffing, it wasn't a total embarrassment. So it seems like a bit of an odd day to do it.
3) We have all known for months and months, if not longer, that ETH had to go and INEOS sack him without a replacement in place.
It seems very amateurish and disorganized. INEOS promised best in the world football club management but this isn't it. Sacking ETH without a replacement being immediately in place is just poor organization, which doesn't give me any confidence that the next stage of their decision making process will be any better.
then he could go to Madrid... sounds as if Ancelloti's time is coming to an end
They have Alonso lined up.
I read that but wondered if he was holding out for City
We need to be speaking to all of the "big names" on this list, a least sounding them out. But it's going to be near impossible to lure them now, especially now the job is even bigger than it was in the summer.
I am hopeful we can pull something out of the bag, but not confident.
I am hopeful we can pull something out of the bag, but not confident.
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