Life after ETH — the next United manager

If we sack ten Hag who would you want as manager?

  • Massimiliano Allegri

    Votes: 24 1.7%
  • Rúben Amorim

    Votes: 291 21.1%
  • Michael Carrick

    Votes: 33 2.4%
  • Roberto de Zerbi

    Votes: 18 1.3%
  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 70 5.1%
  • Sebastian Hoeneß

    Votes: 59 4.3%
  • Eddie Howe

    Votes: 6 0.4%
  • Simone Inzaghi

    Votes: 66 4.8%
  • Andoni Iraola

    Votes: 36 2.6%
  • Thiago Motta

    Votes: 8 0.6%
  • Julian Nagelsmann

    Votes: 255 18.5%
  • Graham Potter

    Votes: 26 1.9%
  • Ruud van Nistelrooy

    Votes: 30 2.2%
  • Marco Silva

    Votes: 8 0.6%
  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 217 15.8%
  • Xavi

    Votes: 58 4.2%
  • Kieran McKenna

    Votes: 81 5.9%
  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 90 6.5%
  • Fabian Hürzeler

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Total voters
    1,377
I'd like to see Xavi or another former Barca coach come in. I'd much prefer us to play a more Guardiola tika-taka style. I honestly can't tell what the current style of play is. Ten Hag has been a huge disappointment.
Well, we have an Arsenal team led by his former assistant Arteta , the Chelsea team led by his another former assistant Maresca, may be United should take his current first hand Juanma Lillo at the end of the season when Guardiola leaves City?! I will find it personally a bit boring if all of the top teams in England share the same footballing phylosophy tbh..
 
At this point, I think I’d take Potter as interim till the end of the season. Hoeness is my first choice as permanent manager in terms of realistic options
 
I'd like to see Xavi or another former Barca coach come in. I'd much prefer us to play a more Guardiola tika-taka style. I honestly can't tell what the current style of play is. Ten Hag has been a huge disappointment.

That’s not Xavi’s style. He’s more like Arteta where he sets up based on a solid defence.

You can see with Flick this season they’ve been a lot more attacking in playing style. But for where we currently are now maybe we need Xavi to build the foundations for us to get to where Barca currently are now.

I like the fact he’s not afraid to use youth and I believe the culture of our club (United DNA) is very much similar to Barcelona’s in comparison to most elite teams in world football.
 
Getting the manager right is more important than signing more £50m+ flops.

If we have to spend £100m hiring and firing managers until we find the right one then so be it. Hell at this point I'm open to failing FFP to get rid of Ten Hag if that's what it takes. A 10 point deduction is less damaging than another 3 months with this buffoon in charge.
Getting the manager right is the last jigsaw of success. In my opinion, the recruitment and team build up is first important setup following up with training facilities, sport science and
medical treatment.

In the summer, our recruitment is still 50/50. Some exciting young players come in and they might have potential to be top players. But other senior recruitment like De light and co. are just above average based on huge amount money we spent.

Whenever team build up is good enough, it will be much easier to bring great coach and hunt for the EPL champion again.
 
I'd like to see Xavi or another former Barca coach come in. I'd much prefer us to play a more Guardiola tika-taka style. I honestly can't tell what the current style of play is. Ten Hag has been a huge disappointment.
No thanks, too boring even if performed well. Our style isn‘t the problem, performance level has to go up.

I‘d rather go for Hoeneß, have you watched some of Stuttgart‘s games?
 
I really want a manager with experience of getting a decent side over the line, winning a recognised level trophy.

Nagelsmann’s history isn’t as strong as his reputation suggests, and by all accounts Inzaghi doesn’t speak a word of English.

Which kind of leaves Amorim as the one to take a calculated risk on, based on Alonso being unattainable.
 
We can't guarantee trophies. The next manager has to set the foundations of a modern play style. I thought that was the least Ten Hag would be able to do, evidently not.

We don't need a top manager to do this, we just need a competent coach. We don't need Inzaghi or Nagelsmann or Amorim (although the latter two would be great). An Iraola, Hoeness even a Gary O Neil or a Thomas Frank would genuinely improve us right now. When we hit the ceiling with that coach - move on. And keep doing that till we win big trophies. It's really not as complicated as it seems.

Who do you think is better fit out of Iraola/Frank, can definitely see the benefit of bringing one in until we can attract a Nagelsmann (post World Cup) or Inzaghi
 
Betting odds have definitely shifted to Amorim and he think he is the most logical appointment at this point. It all comes down to whether he would come mid season and whether he fits with INEOS' philosophy.
 
I really want a manager with experience of getting a decent side over the line, winning a recognised level trophy.

Nagelsmann’s history isn’t as strong as his reputation suggests, and by all accounts Inzaghi doesn’t speak a word of English.

Which kind of leaves Amorim as the one to take a calculated risk on, based on Alonso being unattainable.

Pretty sure Alonso will leave after this year though. But Amorim, Naglesmann are both fine by me. Just get rid of ETH now.
 
Outsmarted again by a manager who made changes and gone on top of us way too easily. We can moan about missed chances today but it’s rare we do. He has been be the worst manager in the league. Russel Martin would do a better job.
 
Well, we have an Arsenal team led by his former assistant Arteta , the Chelsea team led by his another former assistant Maresca, may be United should take his current first hand Juanma Lillo at the end of the season when Guardiola leaves City?! I will find it personally a bit boring if all of the top teams in England share the same footballing phylosophy tbh..
I'm finding it personally a bit boring being crap season after season and playing incoherent and outdated football.
 
No thanks, too boring even if performed well. Our style isn‘t the problem, performance level has to go up.

I‘d rather go for Hoeneß, have you watched some of Stuttgart‘s games?
Our style might not be a problem for you but a lot of us are getting no satisfaction at all from whatever it is we're trying to do.
 
I want to say someone like Amorim or Alonso but either we'll take too long and they'll go elsewhere, or we won't be appealing enough and they'll go elsewhere.

It surely must be a money issue now. I can't fathom why he'd still be here for any other reason driving the club down further.
 
Betting odds have definitely shifted to Amorim and he think he is the most logical appointment at this point. It all comes down to whether he would come mid season and whether he fits with INEOS' philosophy.
And also the fact that City may be interested at the end of the season. Along with how well Sporting are doing, it’d take a lot to get him to quit mid season I suspect.
 
I'm starting to come around to the view point that it doesn't really matter anymore who goes and who comes. This club is just done. Fundamentally rotten and it will be an extremely long time before that changes. Not until there's a significant shift in ownership probably. Maybe it really is a rebound for the years of success. Liverpool had to wait 30 years. It's been only 12 for United. It could easily reach 30 as well, probably more. Or just go the way of Leeds. Who knows anymore? It's just so bleak.
 
That’s not Xavi’s style. He’s more like Arteta where he sets up based on a solid defence.

You can see with Flick this season they’ve been a lot more attacking in playing style. But for where we currently are now maybe we need Xavi to build the foundations for us to get to where Barca currently are now.

I like the fact he’s not afraid to use youth and I believe the culture of our club (United DNA) is very much similar to Barcelona’s in comparison to most elite teams in world football.
Tika-taka is a high possession based style. It's not inherently defensive or attacking in nature.
 
We should get Bielsa for the rest of the season. He wouldn’t take any crap. In fact I am sure he would split the dressing room into fighters and feckers. Then we can get shot of the latter.
 
It’s an absolute mess. No clear tactics, no in game management. Nothing. Switches rashford and garnacho. Why? Rashford, who is already poor, plays better on the left. Garnacho plays well on the right. Why switch them? Why switch dalot and mazraoui? Why play mazraoui as #10? Why drop Ugarte? Wasn’t he brought in to stabalise the midfield? Why not give him a proper run? Why so confused between hojlund and zirkzee? What’s with those terrible press conferences?

He has to go.
 
The fact the votes are so split between about 20 candidates really says it all.

I went RVN only because I think it's inevitable we'll go a caretaker route at least for a few games.
 
We should get Bielsa for the rest of the season. He wouldn’t take any crap. In fact I am sure he would split the dressing room into fighters and feckers. Then we can get shot of the latter.
I would absolutely love to see this. There would be zero tolerance for lazy players.
 
It’s an absolute mess. No clear tactics, no in game management. Nothing. Switches rashford and garnacho. Why? Rashford, who is already poor, plays better on the left. Garnacho plays well on the right. Why switch them? Why switch dalot and mazraoui? Why play mazraoui as #10? Why drop Ugarte? Wasn’t he brought in to stabalise the midfield? Why not give him a proper run? Why so confused between hojlund and zirkzee? What’s with those terrible press conferences?

He has to go.
It's particularly weird that Ugarte isn't starting with Mainoo out.
It seems a bit scattergun, especially seeing an admittedly revitalised Eriksen come in for a run of games, after being totally out of the picture for ages.
 
We should get Bielsa for the rest of the season. He wouldn’t take any crap. In fact I am sure he would split the dressing room into fighters and feckers. Then we can get shot of the latter.
I'd be scared to see his Leeds tactics here.
We'd probably keep the scoring few bit and get utterly whopped each week.
 
Betting odds have definitely shifted to Amorim and he think he is the most logical appointment at this point. It all comes down to whether he would come mid season and whether he fits with INEOS' philosophy.
Another caretaker awaits, probably RVN.

Which is sort of a no win. If it's no better we might as well have stuck with what we had. If it's good we might get swayed down the Ole route again.
 
And also the fact that City may be interested at the end of the season. Along with how well Sporting are doing, it’d take a lot to get him to quit mid season I suspect.

This is the exact same argument that was used about Ten Hag. This club is too big, we need managers who can handle a behemoth, and has experience with the pressure that comes with it. Managers eventually end up eaten alive here, and never fully recover.
 
I think Amorim and Nagelsmann are probably the two brightest names there? Alonso isn’t happening.

If you can get either of those names I think you give Ruud on a strict interim until the end of the season whilst you wrap up negotiations for either of those guys.

Who is Sebastian Hoeness?
 
Xavi as caretaker till the end of the season?
I don’t think this will work.

Barça struggled to score goals with him, and he’ll likely want us to play the same way he did as a player. I don’t think he’ll be able to implement his style with our current squad. Our rivals would probably love to see Case or Ugarte trying to play the Busquets role!

When things went south at Barça, he quickly lost control of the dressing room, and I can see that happening here within a month.

The first thing we need to decide is our style of play. Right now, it’s unclear, and our recent signings haven’t done much to clarify it.
 
INEOS bringing in Xavi after buying Ugarte in the summer would really worry me that they didn't know what they were doing.
 
Who is Sebastian Hoeness?
Stuttgart's manager. Saved them from relegation before last season, finished second last season ahead of Bayern while getting more points than the last time Stuttgart actually won the league and now plays decent football in the CL with them.

Also he is the nephew of Bayern's patriarch Uli Hoeneß and already has managed their U23 team (two years after EtH did manage them). He is the only manager who ever did win the title in Germany's Third League with a U23 team (EtH failed to get them promoted into that league, that was managed by the guy between the two).
 
Will be Ruud until the end of the season.. so nothing will change, probably looking at worst ever PL finish.. then a new man in the summer.. all those new coaches need to be sacked.. it’s another rebuild..
 
Why would Howe leave Newcastle to come here?

He doesn’t even seem that content at Newcastle does he? Not like I’d want him at United anyway.

He’s fell out with numerous footballing directors at Newcastle including the current one according to reports and he was linked with England he would have run to London for an interview