Life after ETH — the next United manager
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Interesting, very good stuff. He has more energy of taking over one of the “well run” midtable sides, having a fantastic 6 months~ or so before crashing down and getting sacked the next season.
Why does the thought of Xavi scare me? His Barca team did well and won the league. Mentally, he seems a bit weak no?
You just answered your own question.
The football, we play is dire, last generation stuff performed badly. At some point somebody familiar with more progressive methods needs to come in and revolutionise the way we play.
Yo think Xavi is the man for that?
Reports in Spain that Perez is getting the ball fully rolling to bring Alonso in to take over Real next season, I know Ancelotti said Real would most likely be his last job but if there’s even a chance then he should be brought in to at least steady the ship
Yeah would love to think we are putting a deal in place under the radar for the summer, however like you say the sources are so unreliable
If or when Ten Hag is sacked, I hope his dutch colleagues go with him too, a new manager should be allowed to get his team in, a new perspective is needed and you can't have that with the same losers who are there now (Yes, RvN and Hake or whatever his name is are losers along side Ten Hag).
I'm starting to question whether the sweet nirvana life actually exists after ETH.
Feels like we're doomed to be trapped in this hellscape.
Feels like we're doomed to be trapped in this hellscape.
We need a player manager.
The ones I would go for would be either Kane, Lewandowski or possibly offer Haaland the job though he might be a bit young.
We simply need someone that can finish off the chances that we create...simples!
The ones I would go for would be either Kane, Lewandowski or possibly offer Haaland the job though he might be a bit young.
We simply need someone that can finish off the chances that we create...simples!
No chance Amorim leaves mid season with Sporting in Champions League, also where we getting the money fron to buy Nagelsmann out of Germany job
When he does get sacked in the next few weeks or months, of all the poor decisions that have been made, signing two unproven kids as your two marquee goal scoring signings will be at the top of the head stone for me. He simply hasn’t been able to get the team scoring over the past 18 months and despite being backed with over £100 million to fix this, he has failed miserably doing so.
Fingers crossed it's next few weeks, would be bordering on negligence if it's few months
I know nobody wants to hear this but whoever comes there will need to be patience. This is very much a Ten Hag team. If he can't get a tune out of some of these players that predate his Manchester United days I know who else can.
I notice Gareth Southgate isn't included in the poll. 
We are at such a low point that literally almost any other manager would get better results out of this team. BUT just because we have a dead cat bounce of a few positive post-ETH may not mean that that new manager is the right one for United. Therein lies the struggle. How to get a manager who really can improve the team and bring us back to the top. This needs expertise.
Open heart surgery required with multiple parts replaced. Namely Ineos, Glazers and Ten Hag. We need to throw em all in the bin and start again. With the Qataris perhaps.
It's not all on Ten Hag. It never has been all about the manager.
You guys had one in 2022 but let go of him.
As I said in the post West Ham thread
Go all out and get Pep, pay whatever it takes and sell some ambition to him.
If we can afford to spunk a billion pounds of injury prone underperforming players over the last years what’s £100m to get the best coach in the business.
If it means putting Ruud in charge until the end of the season then so be it.
However if Ineos decide to go with Potter or Southgate then that’s me done with the club. I’ll know where their lack of ambition lies
Go all out and get Pep, pay whatever it takes and sell some ambition to him.
If we can afford to spunk a billion pounds of injury prone underperforming players over the last years what’s £100m to get the best coach in the business.
If it means putting Ruud in charge until the end of the season then so be it.
However if Ineos decide to go with Potter or Southgate then that’s me done with the club. I’ll know where their lack of ambition lies
Pochettino would be ideal right now with his EPL experience. Our best players are young and expectations are low.
He might consider playing Dalot as no 10. I mean if Mazraoui can play there!
Let’s be serious here. Pep will be loyal to that small club. He’d never leave for us. He’ll probably be tempted because he knows we’re a lot bigger and it’s motivation to be the only one to succeed with us. But it ain’t happening as he’s already been to city.
He's not going to, Howe wants too much control on transfers, hence falling out with Mitchell and Ashworth being bemused about his previous role with Newcastle.
I'm ready for Ole's second interim run
I'm actually coming around to the idea of Xavi.
Mainly because he has experience of working in a big club that is absolutely batshit behind the scenes and still being relatively successful.
Mainly because he has experience of working in a big club that is absolutely batshit behind the scenes and still being relatively successful.
Shocking character though so he had to go.
Stuttgart's manager. Former Bayern Munich II (when they won the German 3rd division) and RB Leipzig Youth manager (when Rangnick was their Director of Football). Emphasizes aggresive pressing and counter-pressing in the opposition's half, adaptiveness, compactness, retention of possession in midfield, quick transitions, a sense of controlled chaos. Clearly influenced by lots of different coaches... German ones obviously, Guardiola, De Zerbi.
Xavi Alonso was the belle of the ball last season, but Hoeneß guided Stuttgart to 2nd in the Bundesliga (no mean feat considering their budget... which is smaller than Leverkusen's (€217 million vs. €275 million), let alone Bayern Munich's or RB Leipzig's). And they didn't just finish 2nd, they did it while playing good football. Pretty much the 3rd best team in Germany from a statistical standpoint. 60% possession on average, xG was only slightly worse than Leverkusen's, 3rd for goals scored, 3rd for goal difference, stong emphasis on progression, 3—1 win vs. Bayern Munich, 5—2 win vs. RB Leipzig, clean sweap of Borussia Dortmund in the Bundesliga and DFB Pokal.
This season they've been a bit slow out the gate (compound effect of losing Guirassy, Endo, Sosa, Anton, Ito, Mavropanos in quick succession), but still drawn with Leverkusen in the German Supercup (before losing on penalties), won 5—1 vs. Borussia Dortmund...
Won 1—0 vs. Juventus in Italy (with 20+ shots on goal).
Would be a somewhat risky appointment as Stuttgart play an open game (where they oftentimes overcommit), still relatively inexperienced and naïve, transitioning to a completely different environment while dealing with the sheer pressure of managing Manchester United and dealing with big egos might be a bit much. But definitely an intriguing option, if the structure around him is sound. You rarely have the chance of appointing an accomplished and experienced “winner” at the highest level anyway. Most of the times you have to roll the dice.
Good post but I feel United would be one job too early for him.
The intense level of scrutiny at OT is what a lot if people struggle with. Let's see if he can do it somewhere like Dortmund before going for him.
Current rumour is that Leverkusen sees him as a possible option to replace Alonso, if Alonso moves after the season. Would probably be a good fit as they play a similar style.
But I agree that Dortmund would be an even better proving ground, as their squad planning is just as weird as United's
In an ideal world, yes. He would either stay at Stuttgart for a while and turn them into a top team (in Germany and maybe even beyond) or join a slightly bigger club (with greater resources at his disposal) and exceed expectations for a few seasons. Become the finished article basically. Even he himself realizes that he's not ready for Manchester United, that's supposedly why he turned us down in the summer.
But the overarching worry, at least from afar, is that if he does well for an appreciable period of time (at Stuttgart or elsewhere), Bayern Munich will try to lure him back to the club. Maybe even sooner than expected if Kompany underwhelms. Uli Hoeneß is one of the most influential figure in club history after Franz Beckenbauer, Dieter Hoeneß was a noteworthy player, Sebastian himself was a youth team coach at the club. We're talking about an extensive, multi-generational association.
Already you have club representatives like Matthäus bigging him up...
Zu Bayern würde kein Trainer auf der Welt besser passen
Xavi please.
A coach that can even maintain a semblance of possession and control would be such an upgrade right now.
A coach that can even maintain a semblance of possession and control would be such an upgrade right now.
I'm really luke warm on Xavi but it couldn't possibly be any worse than what we have. Tuchel was the correct move imo but that's gone now so no point in dwelling on it.
Little correction: Matthäus is just a pundit. A famous quote about him from Uli Hoeneß: "Matthäus could not even become greenkeeper at Bayern München!"
Ruud and Hake until the end of the season. Don’t see any other options beyond Potter and Xavi who both will want long contracts. We need to stop the rot now before we head into a relegation fight that could be brutal. We need to stop the banter by keeping ETH.
Ah, cheers! Wasn't aware of that, or Uli's quote for that matter.Little correction: Matthäus is just a pundit. A famous quote about him from Uli Hoeneß: "Matthäus could not even become greenkeeper at Bayern München!"
Transfermarkt still lists him as a club representative for some reason...
Uh... apparently my knowledge was outdated and he actually is a club representative by nowAh, cheers! Wasn't aware of that, or Uli's quote for that matter.
Transfermarkt still lists him as a club representative for some reason...
Totally missed that, happened a few years ago already. Probably people reconciling makes much less news than fighting
Keep seeing things about his style of Football not being very easy on the eye
With the way things are going this season we aren't expecting much success (and looks like things are getting worse at the moment). We need someone to come in and stabilise the club with simple football - clean sheets, scoring goals and winning games. This season has been abysmal so far, cup wins are great at the time but don't mean anything if we don't build and grow on that success. We win yesterday and we move to 8th and in the mix for progressing into top 5, but yet again we deliver a disappointing result and performance (in terms of scoring goals, a quite significant deal for a football team!) And now stuck in 14th, with 11 points from 27. Dreadful. Club needs to refocus, remotivate and reinvigorate the players quickly!