Wonder how this bodes for Sterling: competition for any spot behind the striker incldues De Bruyne, Silva, Nolito, Sane, Nasri... (and Navas too, I guess)
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An unknown 12 months ago now going for half what we're signing Pogba for? Suddenly our fee doesn't sound that crazy does it?
Wonder where he'll play at City? They've already brought in Nolito (who picked them over Barcelona for playing time) and you'd imagine De Bruyne, Silva and Aguero are certs for the other attacking positions. Definitely leaves Sterling searching for a new club in a years time
Wonder where he'll play at City? They've already brought in Nolito (who picked them over Barcelona for playing time) and you'd imagine De Bruyne, Silva and Aguero are certs for the other attacking positions. Definitely leaves Sterling searching for a new club in a years time
Just like KDB, another great signing by City. With Sane and KDB you would think they will be set up for some time with two very good wingers. Shame United were never interested, fee is high but will be justified if he performs.
We are all getting jittery here about Pogba but this deal has been dragging on for even longer. Why haven't City signed him yet? Personally, I don't think he is that good. He seems to have speed and strength but his dribbling ability is not even close to the likes of Mahrez.
Yeah, he's obviously very talented but he's got a hint of Januzaj about him. great potential but not there yet and no guarantee that he'll get there.
Well, Guardiola had 3 years to watch him in the Bundesliga, and Sane has been counted among the most promising talents in german football for more or less exactly this stretch of time.
Swore this was done deal already
In fairness last season was his breakthrough
Before then he had only played over 60 mins in five league games
I'm sure many had been aware of him through the youth system but nobody had the opportunity to watch him in regularly in the league as he wasn't playing regular till last year
Sure, he hasn't made much of a splash so far. But I'll surely keep an eye on him under Guardiola.
I feel this move comes too soon, he should've stayed another season at Schalke.
City been on the verge of signing this guy for months
I just don't understand why someone would sign him instead of signing Mahrez.
Because in 5 years Mahrez will be looking to retire and Sane will be 25 heading into the peak years of his career. It's easy to forget Mahrez has been at Leicester for a few years now and wouldn't have been touted for any club inside the top 10 before last season either.
In 5 years Mahrez will be 30 years old, far from looking to retire age. Sane is a gamble, its not even certain that at the age of 25 he'll be as good as current Mahrez. Why take the gamble when you can get a player that's already at that level, at what's probably a similar price?
Well, the season happened. In 06/07 Ronaldo hadn't had a season like that before, yet you'd a fool for suggesting he was a gamble. What Mahrez was doing before last season is inconsequential, why? Cause last season happened.
Sane has incredible pace, strength and is a great height for a footballer, in 5 years time he could be absolutely anything in the Premier League. Mahrez is also a great signing but in Sane you have a potential Ronaldo type player, whereas Mahrez is unlikely to reach those heights in my opinion.
The thing is there is a release clause (?) in his contract next summer meaning Shalke would lose him for cheaper even though he turned 10x better this time next year. Schalke may not have a say in his destination too next year: Sane can hypothetically even go to Dortmund or Bayern and Schakle can't do nothing about. Therefore Schakle is more tempted to sell him this summer if they can get the right offer.
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He's still in that ballpark, he certainly wouldn't be at the top level for very long afterwards. You could sign Sane and he might not quite develop into a world beater and you'd still sell him for £30m because of his age. Much like Sterling hasn't become a £15m player overnight. Pep has also seen him first hand in Getmany, these coaches are the best because of their eye for talent are they not?
You've also just effectively put an end to the term one season wonder. No longer can a player be judged based on the consistency of his football, but instead he's only as good as his last game. Lots of people on here wanted to see Kane perform for another season when you were being linked with him, same logic applied really. I'm not saying Sane is better than Mahrez by the way, but it's obvious that their are factors that could sway you either way when investing £40m.
Sterling is heading in that direction in a hurry. That's the problem with signing potential, look what's happened to him? 50mil quid down the drain cause there was hope of what he could become rather than what he is.
Sane is very talented, of that there's very little if any doubt. However, I've seen even more talented players not step up to the plate.
5 years + is a long time in football. That's a full era of football. A 25 year old who's proven he gets it done is the perfect time to sign a player. Why? He's got about 7 years(barring injuries) of peak athletic capabilities. What's important though, is that he's shown he can win matches on a consistent basis, did it enough to be the best player in the league. Who cares about resale value in 5 years time? City spend about a billion in that amount of time yet you see the need to worry about 30 million quid?
When a player plays at that Mahrez level of last season, you forget all about him being a one season wonder or you miss out on great opportunity. Which all the big clubs are doing at this current time.
Everytime I see reports on this, it's supposedly done deal. Yet he's not signed.
City's version of Pogba saga
I'd take Sane over Mahrez. Higher ceiling, and City don't need him to hit the ground running, they have plenty of options as it is.
You expecting to keep Sane for longer than 7/8 years when Mahrez approaches retirement?
Who stays at a club that long these days?
Yep. I have the exact same feeling about this transfer as I had about Götze going to Bayern in 2013 with the difference that the latter was far more accomplished and consistent with a lot more maturity in his play style.
I honestly believe that a lot of people who look forward to this move are a bit blinded by his exciting and flashy style and judge mostly based on highlight reels. If they would have watched as many Schalke games as I did last season, they should have also seen how frequently he went missing and how often his reckless dribblings caused dangerous counter situations. He was nonetheless one of Schalke´s best players, but this had more to do with the underperformances of his teammates than his own stellar play. He was a shining light in an overall underwhelming Schalke season, comparable to Januzaj under Moyes.
Now, don´t get me wrong, Sané is a huge talent with incredible potential, but also still very raw. Said potential needs to be nurtured, though, and I doubt that a club with the ambitions of winning a European top league and the CL and enourmous competition in the offensive positions is the right place for that. This transfer could backfire quite badly for all parties involved.
No, but then you move into resale value. It's easy to say that's ages away and 'City spend loads', but we have to get smarter in the market eventually. We've clearly targeted youth this summer - Moreno, Jesus, Stones, Sane and Laporte all heavily linked at various stages. I'm finding it quite refreshing.
and people complain about United dragging/dithering too much on deals. Literally every English club has that problem. City with Stones/Sane. United with Pogba. Only Bayern are incredible in their efforts to get the deals done quickly.
Ribery has been at bayern for a decade. Robben for 7 years.
Drogba spent 8 years at Chelsea. Alves 8 years at barca.
Hamsik has stayed with Napoli for a decade.
You don't even need to look at different clubs. Just look at City. Aguero goes into his 6th season, Silva and Yaya into their 7th, Kompany into his 9th. If you're a key player for a top team, there's a pretty good chance that you stay for 1 or 2 contract extensions, which usually means that you'll be at the club for 6-7 years at least.
Either that or Bayern don't allow info to continually leak to the press during the negotiation stages, making it look like they tie up deals quickly.
Don't think Bayern can really control the agents of the players from leaking the information.
I said longer than 7/8 years though. As it would need to be if he wants longevity past a 25 year old Mahrez.
So what are we looking at? 10/12? An entire career?
Not even the most optimistic club could plan like that.
With him and Jesus, City bought 2 excellent prospects. But they are talents as of now, not more. They'll need time but with Pep they're at the right place I'm afraid
Can we all take a moment to appreciate SkySports unrivalled reporting please? Six days ago Schalke's director publicly confirmed that Sane had told the club he wanted to leave. Yet somehow Sky must have missed this news, for today they published an article that states "Manchester City target Leroy Sane has informed Schalke he wants to leave the club this summer, according to Sky sources in Germany."
Is he any more talented that Stirling? Pep is buying a mixture of promise and not quite proven at the top level it seems. Still think they're having an ok window if these deals come off.
i don't get where this sane hype even come from?
i mean he played over 40 matches for schalke last season and only got 9 goals and 7 assists in all competitions.
not that he is bad but he doesn't seem to be a world beater either.
i mean he played over 40 matches for schalke last season and only got 9 goals and 7 assists in all competitions.
not that he is bad but he doesn't seem to be a world beater either.
He is just incredibly talented, a real joy to watch. He is extremely fast, has great technique and a strong drive for goal. At times last season he looked head and shoulders above any other player on Schalkes team. Then again he is still inconsistent, sometimes when he failed to beat his man a couple of times, he started to make bad decisions and misplace the easiest passes. For the money City will need to pay it is a gamble, but if Sane fulfills his potential it is definitely worth it.
Only caught a glimpse of him at the Euros for like 10 seconds but even so, I was stunned at how quick his acceleration was. He'll be one of the fastest players in the league if not the fastest. Can't say much about the rest of his game but he seems to be very highly rated.
If he doesn't reach his potential and isn't a success in England he'll be flogged, on the cheap probably. That's a gamble you take with any signing, let alone promising youngsters.
But if he reaches a level anywhere near to the hype he'll either be at City for a long time or the Reals and Barcas of the world will come snapping, in which case they'll probably get a tidy profit. Sure, you can't plan a team a decade in advance, but City are probably looking at this signing as a player who'll either still be with them in 2026 or have netted them a nice return before then.
You say not even the most optimistic club could plan like that, and yet they all do. Why do you think there's such a premium on young talent? It's not because they merit these kinds of fees for what they've already delivered - it's purely for what they could potentially deliver.
They are pretty good stats for a player of his age
If you look at how many mins they played last season
Sane has a goal every 325 mins and an assist every 417 (a goal or assist every 182)
Martial for comparison has a goal every 259 mins and an assist every 518 (a goal or assist every 172)
If you took the league form only the stats would be
Sane has a goal every 289 mins and an assist every 385 (a goal or assist every 165)
Martial has a goal every 239 mins and an assist every 685 (a goal or assist every 175)
(info from transfermarkt)
And his speed is incredible which in a pep team where possession is predominantly retained that ability to burst into space is really important
Comparing Sane and Martial is not really right due to how poor our attack was last season. We barely ever scored more than 2.
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