Leroy Sane | confirmed to City

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Comparing Sane and Martial is not really right due to how poor our attack was last season. We barely ever scored more than 2.
I agree it's silly to compare them, but not because of the reason you've said. Schalke aren't exactly known for their ability to score goals either.

Ultimately if Sane comes and has a season like Martial has had at United, I'd be pleased with that. I think he's capable, and it'll be refreshing to see somebody who is actually willing to run at players and has a bit more bottle in the final third instead of Navas. We are immediately more of a threat down that right hand side with Sane.

Sane has it all to prove here. Martial has the chance to kick on and cement himself as a top player at United this season.
 
i don't get where this sane hype even come from?

i mean he played over 40 matches for schalke last season and only got 9 goals and 7 assists in all competitions.
not that he is bad but he doesn't seem to be a world beater either.

Are you serious? Those are great stats. He's still only going to get better too.
 
City must find an agreement with Schalke in the next 24 hours or Sane will stay at Schalke says Heidel.

Some rumours are saying Sane is in Manchester at the moment, so ties in with getting things finalised.

Not sure how reputable they are mind you.
 
City will fold and pay like they will for Stones. They folded for De Bruyne and Sterling last year.
City are just wasting their time, trying to forge a reputation as hard bargainers.
They need to get their business done early. Everyone knows they will pay in the end, so just get on with it.
 
Some rumours are saying Sane is in Manchester at the moment, so ties in with getting things finalised.

Not sure how reputable they are mind you.
He might be in Manchester, in anticipation of a deal. Happens all the time. City are obviously trying to drive a hard bargain on every detail. Same thing is happening with the Stones deal. Also happened with De Bruyne last summer.
 
Are you serious? Those are great stats. He's still only going to get better too.
Glad you commented on that - it's crazy to be expecting Sane to be producing much more than that at 19-20 years old.

I like to use Martial as the benchmark on this forum, since he's clearly a very highly rated youngster, and there's only a month in age between them.
  • Martial 29 starts (2632 mins); 11 goals and 4 assists
  • Sane 20 starts (2314 mins); 8 goals and 6 assists
I don't get how one could be highly rated, and yet you can use the stats to say the other one isn't.
 
Glad you commented on that - it's crazy to be expecting Sane to be producing much more than that at 19-20 years old.

I like to use Martial as the benchmark on this forum, since he's clearly a very highly rated youngster, and there's only a month in age between them.
  • Martial 29 starts (2632 mins); 11 goals and 4 assists
  • Sane 20 starts (2314 mins); 8 goals and 6 assists
I don't get how one could be highly rated, and yet you can use the stats to say the other one isn't.
But what stats are you using? In all competitions Martial scored like 17?
 
But what stats are you using? In all competitions Martial scored like 17?
He's just using league stats. For all comps its the following:
  • Martial 51 starts (4663 mins); 18 goals and 9 assists*
  • Sane 29 starts (2925 mins); 9 goals and 7 assists
*though that includes about 600mins and 1 goal he scored at Monaco last season
 
For Martial just at United:
  • Martial 45 starts (4128 mins); 17 goals and 7 assists
Brilliant stats for a 19 year old playing in a new league. If Sane has anything like the impact that Martial has had with us, then it'll be a hell of a signing for city.
 
Those are good stats and he looks a pretty good talent unfortunately.
 
Think it's unfair to be comparing him to Martial now. Martial has had his chance to star for a top club. Sane hasn't. Shalke are a bit of at mess atm.
 
Think it's unfair to be comparing him to Martial now. Martial has had his chance to star for a top club. Sane hasn't. Shalke are a bit of at mess atm.

It's always difficult to compare when they play in different leagues, under different managers etc. I think Martial will have a more productive season this time around, in a system that counters quickly and utilises space. I expect him to make more goals, but I'd be very happy if he were to score as many. Sane's level could improve alongside better players with a better manager, although he's also generally up against more competitive teams. Will be interesting but I would say that Martial has the greater advantage of experience in England, and he's already a first team regular.
 
City will fold and pay like they will for Stones. They folded for De Bruyne and Sterling last year.
City are just wasting their time, trying to forge a reputation as hard bargainers.
They need to get their business done early. Everyone knows they will pay in the end, so just get on with it.

I agree, I accept the club has to try and get the best deal possible, but there's too much posturing for my liking. In some cases obviously it can be useful, and to be fair it does look like we have driven the outright sum for Sane down in favour of target-dependent bonuses (similar to Martial deal), but with cases like Stones and Sterling where the selling club is in a strong position then the price is determined almost entirely by the selling club. We may as well stump up the cash early and benefit from giving them a full pre-season in the side, especially having a new manager.
 
I agree, I accept the club has to try and get the best deal possible, but there's too much posturing for my liking. In some cases obviously it can be useful, and to be fair it does look like we have driven the outright sum for Sane down in favour of target-dependent bonuses (similar to Martial deal), but with cases like Stones and Sterling where the selling club is in a strong position then the price is determined almost entirely by the selling club. We may as well stump up the cash early and benefit from giving them a full pre-season in the side, especially having a new manager.
There were reports last week from the Telegrapgh, Guardian and Mail. So I'm guessing it was from City. That you lot were going to offer a £40m take it or leave it offer for Stones. I immediately thought that was BS. City aren't going to abandon their pursuit of Stones, likewise Sane. City need them. Especially Stones being home-grown. You aren't going to frustrate a manager you spent 3 years chasing in his first summer, just because you want to save a few million.
I know Pep won't complain in public, he's not like that. But he will be a bit peeved that more stuff hasn't been done. He's a perfectionist.
What surprises me is that there have been reports that you guys were going for Sane, since January. I would have expected City to have sorted out a deal long before the season ended. Now Shalke are making a direct threat. Which to be fair, they are entitled to do because they don't want this dragging out.
We saw the same thing last year especially with the KDB deal.
What's suddenly changed for City that they're trying to drive hard bargains?
 
He's just using league stats. For all comps its the following:
  • Martial 51 starts (4663 mins); 18 goals and 9 assists*
  • Sane 29 starts (2925 mins); 9 goals and 7 assists
*though that includes about 600mins and 1 goal he scored at Monaco last season
Thanks for those - both great talents on paper.

As I keep saying, if he has anything like the season Martial had last year I'll be very pleased.
 
So Nolito is a squad player then? As you don't spend close to 50m and leave that player (Sane) on the bench
 
So Nolito is a squad player then? As you don't spend close to 50m and leave that player (Sane) on the bench
Fairly sure Sane will play on the right instead of Navas, whereas Nolito would predominantly be on the left.

I think you'll see rotation everywhere - for me there's only two players who will always play when fit; Aguero and KDB.

I think we'll see Silva in just about every game we expect a team to sit deep, too. But probably deeper in the middle. The rest is up for grabs in my view.
 
Sane is way too raw to be a guaranteed starter for a club with City's ambitions. Nolito, Navas, Silva are basically all 30 years old, so it's not like Sane's path would be blocked forever.
 
Looks rather slow for a supposed potentially complete winger ala Ronaldo in a United shirt.
Then again, he's young, and he looks talented even if I expected more pace (just based on hype).
 
Looks rather slow for a supposed potentially complete winger ala Ronaldo in a United shirt.
Then again, he's young, and he looks talented even if I expected more pace (just based on hype).

Slow is the last thing I would call him. Raw and very hit and miss yes, but he is quick as feck.

IMO one of the biggest wing talents besides Dembele, and I will be fairly annoyed if City get their dirty mittens on him.
 
Fairly sure Sane will play on the right instead of Navas, whereas Nolito would predominantly be on the left.

I think you'll see rotation everywhere - for me there's only two players who will always play when fit; Aguero and KDB.

I think we'll see Silva in just about every game we expect a team to sit deep, too. But probably deeper in the middle. The rest is up for grabs in my view.
Doesn't KDB play from the right?
 
Looks rather slow for a supposed potentially complete winger ala Ronaldo in a United shirt.
Then again, he's young, and he looks talented even if I expected more pace (just based on hype).
Slow?? Wow, some people really have high standards.
 
Slow is the last thing I would call him. Raw and very hit and miss yes, but he is quick as feck.

IMO one of the biggest wing talents besides Dembele, and I will be fairly annoyed if City get their dirty mittens on him.
Goodie, just saw 10 min from YouTube where he struggled to get away from most defenders and ended up stopping the counters.
Want good players to the Pl so I can watch more quality. Hope city buys him and he plays well - but for them to lose ofc.
 
Doesn't KDB play from the right?
I hope not. Pellegrini played him there occasionally but he's half the player out there, all his best assets are wasted.

He'll always do a job in an attacking sense, but put behind the striker and he's as good as they come in my book.
 
That you lot were going to offer a £40m take it or leave it offer for Stones. I immediately thought that was BS. City aren't going to abandon their pursuit of Stones, likewise Sane. City need them.
Yeah that was clearly briefing from City. They did the same when Laporte signed a new contract, and you heard BBC, Sky Sports, MEN, Guardian and Telegraph journos saying near word for word the same in "Laporte is too young, inexperienced, expensive, wanted to play him as a LB anyway and that United also got rejected".
 
I think Pep might use the 4-1-4-1 formation for City next season, especially against weaker teams who sit back.

Aguero
Nolito KDB Silva Sane
Gundogan
Back four​
 
I hear Pep is hoping to initiate Sane into the City squad in a friendly sponsored by the Manchester Evening News. Apparently the initiation includes fecking him in the arse during the match!
 
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