Lenglet (Sevilla CB)

VP89 said:
I thought this one is meant to be very good
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Individually he's got potential but Sevilla back 4 was constantly awful last season, look at all the 4s, 5s and even 6s they conceded in La Liga.

Indicates to me he's not at the age to lead and would need steady head alongside him.

Surely you're going to sell at least one CB as you already have enough in your squad.
 
If we go for a CB this season, I really want it to be a top tier player. We've got plenty of decent CBs, but we need a leader at the back right now. Lenglet is for sure a prospect, but we need somebody to go straight in and lead the backline
 
Igor Drefljak said:
If we go for a CB this season, I really want it to be a top tier player. We've got plenty of decent CBs, but we need a leader at the back right now. Lenglet is for sure a prospect, but we need somebody to go straight in and lead the backline
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Absolutely this. Alderweireld or no one at all.
 
I’d be very happy if we got him, a beast in the air and a good tackler. He could be a mainstay of our defense for many years
 
Dong Fangzhuo said:
Absolutely this. Alderweireld or no one at all.
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Disagree. We need to replace Jones with someone more reliable. I only trust Smalling and Bailly from our current set of defenders and we don't know what Lindelof will do next season.
 
I like how comfortable he looks on the ball and sea to tackle very well. Looks like he has some acceleration to him aswell. Ideally I'd have liked someone with a bit more experience but if Spurs are asking for some stupid fee for a 29 year old, I'd rather get someone than no one. Also, if it means we get rid of Jones I'm all for it.
 
I really don't know much about him (aside from the two matches against us and the YouTube video posted above), but Mourinho's rarely wrong about CB's. If he's really available for £20-25m, and shows 2nd or even 3rd tier potential... then we need to go for him.

We may end up improving our options at FB, CB, and CM for £100m. I imagine there'll be sales too, so that makes me wonder what Woodward might have up his sleeve... :devil:
 
luke511 said:
You make it sound like our current options are dreadful, Bailly and Smalling at the moment stand as a very reliable partnership, this guy will get plenty of opportunities to show his worth in the mean time.
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Not at all. I love Bailly and think him and Smalling make a good pair but we also have Jones, Rojo, Lindelof and some youngsters in Tuanzebe and TFM. If we really want to develop Lindeloff then why buy Lenglet who is only slightly better than Lindeloff with pretty much the same potential.
 
The fact that his release clause is fairly cheap means that this should be a no brainer instead of entertaining Levy’s silly games. We’d save money which could go towards other targets plus we’d be getting a class CB. He defended like a man possessed against us, I’m sure he impressed Mourinho that’s for sure
 
I think we have massive CB issues. People say every year we are good in the CB department, to then realise during the season that we are vulnerable there. Jones is Jones, Smalling does well most of the time, but isnt perfect, especially on the ball. Bailly was shaky and injury prone last year. Lindelöf is nowhere near ready and question marks remain if he is good enough. Rojo isnt good enough.

Maybe we want to put pressure on Spurs to sell Toby, but he isnt the perfect CB either. His last season was a nightmare, and buying established and experienced players isnt the solution sometimes. It can work out or not, but for that kind of money, we better make sure he will be a success. Alternatively, Lenglet was a beast against us and would be cheap, leaving enough money for other positions to strengthen. He would immediately compete with Smalling and Bailly, while the others are unreliable for one reason or the other.
 
Dolf said:
Not at all. I love Bailly and think him and Smalling make a good pair but we also have Jones, Rojo, Lindelof and some youngsters in Tuanzebe and TFM. If we really want to develop Lindeloff then why buy Lenglet who is only slightly better than Lindeloff with pretty much the same potential.
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Lenglet is so far ahead of Lindelof in some ways it’s scary. For example heading, he goes and wins the ball whereas Lindelof seems shy of heading. He’s like a taller version of blind. So far I’m not impressed
 
Decomposing In Paris said:
I really don't know much about him (aside from the two matches against us and the YouTube video posted above), but Mourinho's rarely wrong about CB's. If he's really available for £20-25m, and shows 2nd or even 3rd tier potential... then we need to go for him.

We may end up improving our options at FB, CB, and CM for £100m. I imagine there'll be sales too, so that makes me wonder what Woodward might have up his sleeve... :devil:
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I like your thinking.

Bailly, Lindelöf, this guy, and one of Jones or Smalling give us great depth at CB. Maybe lacking in leadership quality, though.
 
Kostov said:
If we are going French, i’d rather we go for Pavard. Looks quality.
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Will cost quite a bit too, Stuttgart wont sell for cheap. Lenglet has the advantage that we played against Sevilla and Jose could see him up close, when scouting and preparing before the games and then during the games. And he played well and looked a monster at OT to be fair. I think that has some impact in the decision making for going on a CB (Same for Toby).
 
If Spurs are trying to push for a VVD fee for Alderweireld which knowing Levy they will then why not? He'd be around 25m and Alderweireld's clause would kick in next summer so if we still really need him we can get him then. If Lenglet turns out to be the real deal then we've saved ourselves a lot of money.
 
It's leadership we need, someone talented is great but we have that in Lindelof. We can't be breaking in a new player, we need a sure thing. Someone ready and proven in this league.
 
I think Mourinho and Woody are playing mind games with Levy. Alderweireld can be bought for £25m next year and he is literally second choice CB who Pochetinho doesn't really care for. If Woody goes for the second choice (I presume Lenglet is 2nd choice behind Alderweireld), then Levy will be shaking in his boots and Alderweireld will be pushing to go. It's all mind games. Either way, we will get one of them.

I also do not want to hear people saying how great he was against us, we weren't exactly at our best going forward. We don't know how he deals with different attacking style. If there is evidence he is equally as good against us and when facing great attacking pressure, then I am all for it!

At least he doesn't swivel his hips 90 degrees to make a simple pass.
 
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Interesting. Cynic in me reckons it’s a move to alert Spurs.
Some good attributes on that video and a footballer. We need as many of those as we can get rather than those who treat the ball like a hot potato.
Wonder if Barca interest was in case Umtiti left? If genuine would be surprised if he came to us over them but just thinking out loud.
 
AKDevil said:
Interesting. Cynic in me reckons it’s a move to alert Spurs.
Some good attributes on that video and a footballer. We need as many of those as we can get rather than those who treat the ball like a hot potato.
Wonder if Barca interest was in case Umtiti left? If genuine would be surprised if he came to us over them but just thinking out loud.
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I read a report that said Lenglet being left footed was the intended replacement for Umtiti, but with him signing a new contract and Vermealan being a left footed back up they would go for a right footed understudy for Pique.
 
Kostov said:
If we are going French, i’d rather we go for Pavard. Looks quality.
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Same here. Lenglet is a good prospect with a reasonable clause, but among French youngsters, Hernández and Pavard seem to be different gravy on the basis of their respective performances last season. Have integrated quite well into the French national team setup as well — which speaks to their composure under pressure.



That's Blanc-esque, and would be revolutionary in our team. :drool:
 
Maybe there is truth in this, Barca were linked with him and then Umtiti signed extension.
 
If Levy is asking £75m for Aldeweireld then we should look elsewhere. Skriniar would be my first choice but I'd be happy with Lenglet too...
 
He is one of the players Mourinho was reffering to that could play for us.
 
Invictus said:
Same here. Lenglet is a good prospect with a reasonable clause, but among French youngsters, Hernández and Pavard seem to be different gravy on the basis of their respective performances last season. Have integrated quite well into the French national team setup as well — which speaks to their composure under pressure.



That's Blanc-esque, and would be revolutionary in our team. :drool:
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If we're signing a CB it has to be someone with top class potential/ability.

Pavard seems to hugely rated and has made it to the WC at a young age. Plus, he's supposed to be terrific on the ball. That appears to combine well with our current lot who are adept defensively but poor on the ball. May give us what Pique gave Barcelona at a young age albeit not that level of consistency.

The CB at Inter and De Ligt seem to be the other ones people are rating very highly.

So it's nice to get a good deal and all that, but particularly at CB, we need a player with great ability or pedigree, rather than someone merely good/solid.
 
He's a bit meh option, I'll be happy to have him as a back up but not as a starting CB.
If we are going for talented youngsters as many have mentioned De Ligt, Pavard, Skriniar are all better options. But I would prefer Alderweireld and he would be my #1 choice, above all the others.
We need experience at the back, not more youngsters.
Also we won't be buying Alderweireld for 25 million next year. No way is Levy allowing Toby to go for 25 and no way is Toby going to sit on the bench for another year.
I would happily bid upto 50 mill for Alderweireld and if that doesn't do the trick, I would go for Skriniar
 
Sanche7 said:
He's a bit meh option, I'll be happy to have him as a back up but not as a starting CB.
If we are going for talented youngsters as many have mentioned De Ligt, Pavard, Skriniar are all better options. But I would prefer Alderweireld and he would be my #1 choice, above all the others.
We need experience at the back, not more youngsters.
Also we won't be buying Alderweireld for 25 million next year. No way is Levy allowing Toby to go for 25 and no way is Toby going to sit on the bench for another year.
I would happily bid upto 50 mill for Alderweireld and if that doesn't do the trick, I would go for Skriniar
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If Spurs take up the option of a further year he has a release clause of £25m next summer.
 
We have several CB's at his level, imo.

What we need is a top tier leader. Either that or we are covered at cb.

Need to focus elsewhere more.
 
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