I love his down-to-earth attitude. Not a diva or attention whore like his brazilian teammate.
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Kylian Mbappe | PSG
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He was showing some signs of cuntishness though this WC. Not much, but still.
This. I feel like many people's expectations have been completely spoilt and thus some very, very good players don't really get the admiration they deserve. In the Hazard thread exemplarily he got criticized for not being effective or producing not good enough results with his plays since his scorers are so much worse than Messi's or Ronaldo's. If that's the standard we compare players to, especially those whose primary responsibility isn't scoring goals), almost every single one of them is predetermined to be a disappointment. Especially Messi but also the younger Ronaldo are just one of those very rare exceptions of players who contributes a lot through dribbles, passes etc. and still manages to get insane goal records.
You never heard Ronaldinho or Zidane getting criticized for their weak scoring statistics. Think we should start remembering how it was before these two entered the scene and get used to the situation that very rarely those who run the complete show are also those that put the ball in the back of the net.
He's a terrific impact player and had a very good world cup for a teenager. I can see him develop into a 40-50 goal season attacker which is something a lot of people didn't see happening soon post Ronaldo / Messi. I don't think I've seen the potential in him to be an all conquering footballer though. But he looks the next best thing in the making - a beast of a final third player.
Agreed. Also, I find people forgetting that there are other ways to contribute in football matches than a goal or an assist. A 20 goal player can be better than a 30 goal one. Going by the stat obsessed logic how good was Ronaldhinio really? Not all that great. But he contributed in ways some final third footballers can only dream of.
But did you saw an all conquering player in 19 years old Ronaldo? We are forgetting that 19 years old players are generally not the finished product, physically, technically and mentally. I don't think you are supposed to see it in a 19 years old player.
Usually the problem with talented 19 year old forwards is their decision making and their physical condition which naturally improves with time, with Mbappe his decision making and physical condition are already very good which means him improving won’t be as natural and it’s easier to imagine him staying at the level he currently is, especially if he remains in Paris.
Even if he keeps playing at the same level for the next decade he’s going to have an incredible career, but he has potential to be one of the best players ever. Maybe it’s wrong to put him up against Messi and Ronaldo already but that’s how good he can be.
Yes I think that's fair. I suppose how much of a players' potential can we really see. But he does look more a Ronaldo (7) than Maradona/Messi/Cruyff to me. Dont get me wrong, he is a pure joy to watch. But I do see a bit of hyerpole (as is natural). He hasn't been dominant or anything in this WC, but a terrific in moments and brilliant for his age.
That's pretty much my feeling, too. He has brillant potential but I think he is currently utilizing his abilities very efficiently. One can compare both players well enough in PSG and Neymar seems to the superior player in so many areas. Mbappe may be faster but Neymar exemplarily has far better close control, first touch and passing. I have a hard time imagining that Mbappe could surpass him, Ronaldo or even Messi. I just don't see the skill set necessary for it - and this is much harder to develop than decision making. As of now, he is a young player that relies heavily on his pace, has very good finishing, does flashy skills but also sometimes has imprecise technique, screws up a first touch or an easy pass and has problems when he needs to operate in tight spaces.
In all honesty, he reminds me a little bit of a more skilled version of Gareth Bale. Has similar, eye catching strengthes and weaknesses.
My mistake then, I had Ronaldo in the all conquering players. Personally, I'm not comfortable with the projections that lead to legends, for me it's something that you claim when the player is already up there.
If he scores 40-50 goals, is that not all conquering performances? he already has 2 league titles and a world cup. All conquering may be just what he will be
A few domestic cups too.
Many of the caftards are weirdos to me in the sense that they feel this need to evaluate the kinda career a 19 years old kid will have by making comparison with all time greats at the same age.
I mean just enjoy his performances and his development, nobody knows how high he will be and personally it's not a question I care about even entertaining. I live in the present
Apparently gave the 500k that he earned during the world cup to a childrens charity. What a guy.
That's brilliant. To do so at 19...much respect
Wasn't great in the final overall, although there was some often excellent defending from Croatia to their credit as they went in on him aggressively early before he got on a charge and a lot of the time cleanly won the ball, but still had his moments, was always dangerous on the break and took his goal brilliantly.
Overall a pretty good World Cup though, destroyed Argentina in particular with his pace. Absolutely blistering, very direct, full of confidence, composed and often makes the correct decision and clinical in front of goal, whilst not being selfish or a diva.
I agree with what was said above, that overall whilst he won't be the player Messi or Ronaldo are, he's so effective at such a young age in the final third, that as he continues to progress and eventually becomes the main man, he could consistently be hitting 40-50 a season across all competitions.
Overall a pretty good World Cup though, destroyed Argentina in particular with his pace. Absolutely blistering, very direct, full of confidence, composed and often makes the correct decision and clinical in front of goal, whilst not being selfish or a diva.
I agree with what was said above, that overall whilst he won't be the player Messi or Ronaldo are, he's so effective at such a young age in the final third, that as he continues to progress and eventually becomes the main man, he could consistently be hitting 40-50 a season across all competitions.
Every England player for more than 10 years has done the same. Kudos to Mbappe for acting like an Englishman!
The thing about his first season at PSG is that he very much played with the intention to serve up Cavani and Neymar; he's taken a backseat to those two. His numbers will easily double or triple in goal outputs with time and notoriety within the squad as he gets older. You put him as the main man on any team right now, the way France has started to do since the Argentina game, and you get a much better return from him.
Truly amazing talent and the heir-apparent to Messi and Ronaldo, IMO.
Forget that clown Neymar, this guys is the real deal with a mature attitude to match. He will undoubtedly reach his potential given his apparent mindset. He will be a joy to watch, and we will all bear witness to his greatness.
Forget that clown Neymar, this guys is the real deal with a mature attitude to match. He will undoubtedly reach his potential given his apparent mindset. He will be a joy to watch, and we will all bear witness to his greatness.
Will be only 23 at the next world cup.still could play for another 3 world cups possibly 4. Incredible. Nobody knew who this kid was 2 years ago. Now everyone knows his name.
This is like Ronaldo the phenomenon again. 1996 Ronaldo.
In France he was knew by a lot of professionnal clubs since his 14's, in fact clubs such as Cean Lens Auxerre Sochaux considered enroll him, but they knew he was promised to the top European clubs already. Thuram said he met him when he was 10 and was shocked by his talent and maturity. Real madrid courted the lad when he was 12.
by the way where is Holy Trinity 68 now ?
Mbappe is not as good as what R9 was as a teenager.
R9 was scoring a goal per game at that age, Mbappe is only scoring a goal every two games on average which is very good but not comparable to R9's.
R9's dribbling,close control and strength was also superior, Mbappe is faster but he loses out in everything else.
R9 was scoring a goal per game at that age, Mbappe is only scoring a goal every two games on average which is very good but not comparable to R9's.
R9's dribbling,close control and strength was also superior, Mbappe is faster but he loses out in everything else.
True, but don't forget Mbappé plays on the right side, wich means, the position where he is the less comfortable with. In PSG because there is Cavani, and with France because of the compact formation of Deschamps.
Be sure that if he played in a conventional 9 position, his stats would have been much more impressive.
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Mbappe being faster than Ronaldo is quite a bold claim. Look at the first clip of the first video. That's a 33 year old, clearly overweight Ronaldo who only is a shadow of his young self allegedly hitting 36 km/h. The second video is the best compilation of his speed I could find quickly. Ronaldo's pace was unreal. Don't think there really was a faster player than him in his prime.
I don't see enough Henry comparisons on here, if there's any legend he resembles it's him..
Yup, just like his season at Monaco playing close to Falcao showed, this kid can be a great goalscorer in terms of stats but also in terms of quality of goals (not just tap ins).
Going to wear the number 7 shirt this season (see shorts in pic).
Playing in white with the number of his idol must be like a dream for him.
Silly question, who’s his idol?
It's obviously David Beckham.
Ronaldo was still playing in Eredivisie when he was a teenager (turned 20 at the start of his first barca season) and as a striker though.
Mbappe had close to a goal per game (or was it 90 min?) ratio when he played in the middle for Monaco IIRC.
Michael Owen during his stint at OT.
Imagine him in the 'Messi vs. Ronaldo' thread...A couple of pics of Mbappe when he was younger
We don't need to imagine @Cal?
No wonder he was so fired up vs Argentina!
Most people's dream signing I guess.... Shame we didnt push for him a year ago
It seems like he has everything he needs to be one of the great ones. Not sure if he will ever reach Ronaldo/Messi levels but I wouldn't bet against that. Proper talent with a lot of potential.
His worst move was going to PSG tho, I don't think it is the right place for him to evolve and they have a tendency not to sell their main players.
His worst move was going to PSG tho, I don't think it is the right place for him to evolve and they have a tendency not to sell their main players.
He can run down his contract with them and he still will only be 23...
Sure, but that's my perspective. I seriously doubt PSG would let that happen and just because I think it's a bad move, doesn't mean he thinks the same. He could be happy there and stay longer than the length of his current contract (especially taking into consideration that PSG can easily afford to throw more money to him to convince him to stay)
Plus the owners might loose interest after world cup 2022
I guess that this would not really matter anymore. PSG has already established it's brand among the European top clubs in the public perception by now. They currently have the two players destined to take over from Messi and Ronaldo in their team. Four years with that publicity and maybe a European final or something like that and they are definitely capable of being self sufficent. Maybe not in a "we buy Neymar for 220 million, then we buy Mbappe for another 180 and pretend it is according to FFP because of a theoretical payment delay" but definitely in a "we are an international top club and can maintain our level to some degree" fashion like Chelsea do currently now that Abramovic lost that big, big interest.