A couple of pics of Mbappe when he was younger
How does Mbappe's face look like he's in his early 30's when he's about 14/15 there?
Kylian Mbappe | PSG
- Thread starter RDCR07
- Start date
How does Mbappe's face look like he's in his early 30's when he's about 14/15 there?
How does Mbappe's face look like he's in his early 30's when he's about 14/15 there?
He looks younger now
I made a thread with a call about Messi over 12 years ago now, and I'm ready to make a similar call with Mbappe.
He's going to go down as an all-timer.
He's going to go down as an all-timer.
A couple of pics of Mbappe when he was younger
You sure that isn’t his dad?
It's not in their interest to drop PSG, it's their flagship project that draws dividends much bigger than the investment. It's their statement that they're able to manage an ambitious and sustainable project, dropping it along the way would send the opposite message.
Has that ever been the case? This has got to go down as one of the cliche statements fans throw around just like "They'll make the money back by selling shirts".
He's better in a central role though.
Last edited:
agree it's over used, although Roman has stopped funding his FM fantasy awhile ago. not the same ballpark as the sheiks though.
1990s eredivisie was better than Ligue 1 currently is.
And Mbappe average roughly one goal every two games so far in Ligue 1 compared to Ronaldo's one goal per game strike rate.
What makes you state that Eredivisie was better? post-90 Bosman meant Dutch clubs lacked the one thing they had prior to '90..... money. It was that which caused the exodus in the 90s of all the best talent they had. If you make a direct comparison with Ligue 1 then certainly Dutch clubs, even then, didn't have the financial resources to offer competitive salaries to keep players, whereas, Ligue 1, presently, has that capacity. Is Ligue 1 better than 90's Eredivisie (Ajax were an anomaly in that decade)? Yep. Is it better than pre-'90 Holland? Now that's an argument!
To be fair to Mbappe, he's not playing centrally and he's not the focus of their attacks. He's out on the right and he often holds his position wide. Put him where Cavani is, then you have a fair comparison with Ronaldo at PSV, since, Ronaldo played centrally with Luc Nilis.
I might be biased, but his difference with Fat Ronaldo is that if Mbappe has a serious injury (knock on wood), and loses his explosiveness, he would become a much less relevant player compared to what Ronaldo managed without all his athletic capabilities. Of course he was taller, stronger and played center forward, but his technique and tight space was considerably better. Also his underrated two footedness and combination plays. I feel like Mbappe without all his speed would be a decent player and that’s it.
Ya I would agree with that. Still way to early but Ronaldo definitely had the dribbling to go along with the explosiveness. He was surgical in tight spaces.
Comparisons to (chubby) Ronaldo are far too premature. I don't know why people are so desperate to hype up young players these days and heap so much pressure on them to become the next [insert legendary footballer]
Let the kid develop and see where he ends up in a few years
Let the kid develop and see where he ends up in a few years
Sorry is this post from 2017? This really doesn't make sense after his WC.
Have psg signed him yet?
Please just don't compare Mbappe to R9 U20, he is not even close. Just search Ronaldo U20 video in youtube
Co-sign that point.
Well but your link does show that the dutch league scored more points than the french league in the two seasons Ronaldo played in it. And it even tops the chart once during that period.
You didn't read the table, they are classed by average. If you make a table based on the points it looks like this:
Ajax 22pts
PSG 19pts
Bordeaux 18pts
Nantes 15pts
Feyenoord 13pts
PSV 12pts
Lyon 9pts
Lens 8pts
Strasbourg 4pts
Auxerre 4pts
Roda JC 3pts
Monaco 2pts
Which league is better, based on that? ( I admit that it's not foolproof)
Well I was talking about averages.
Ultimately it doesn't really matter anyway. I don't think these few results tell too much, just thought it's funny that the dutch league had the highest average in one of the seasons Ronaldo played in it.
To be fair it's not like I think the dutch league was amazing back then but regarding the Ronaldo-Mbappe comparison the important part is that it was a decent league with one amazing team in it and the current french league is a decent league with one good team in it.
The dutch league was decent but the higher average is simply due to the lesser amount of teams, France for example had a higher average when you only take the top 4 teams(since there was only 4 dutch teams).
Sure and you check out what Ronaldo actually did before Sept. 1996, compared to what Mbappe accomplished by now. You're right that it's not even close.
Mbappe wasn't even the best player for the French team, Ronaldo was the best player in the world at 19. Mbappe's not even close to that, it's a daft comparison.
No you are wrong. He was not the best player in the world when he was 19, he was mostly injured the whole year last year for PSV. Ronaldo was 20 when he had his big performances for Barca which earned him the 2nd place Ballon D'or.
His streak of great performances against Real Sociedad, Zaragoza, Compostela, Logrones and Valencia came all within about 4 weeks from end of September to end of October right in time for voting.
PS I don't think Mbappe has a better skillset or is amore talent player, just saying that as a teenager Ronaldo actually didn't do all that much compared to him. Had one and a half seasons for PSV, the highest profile game he played at that point might be a R16 UEFA cup tie against Werder Bremen.
Last edited:
Henry was substantially faster than R9, I think Mbappe is right around the pace R9 was, maybe a bit faster but he's also much lighter. R9 was pretty much as quick but was a tank on top of it.
Blasphemy.
Eredevisie in the 90's wasn't even better than the Portuguese League and was slightly better than the Belgian League.
P.S. Now checking better the rankings during the entire decade after 94 they outperformed us, didn't remember we were so bad after the Bosman rule
Last edited:
Ronaldo didn't lose his athletic capabilities after the injuries. He lost quit a bit of it, for sure, but he started from such absurd heights than even after the 2 devastating knee injuries at inter he was still a freak compared to almost every other player. Mbappé isn't quite that freakish, but he's a freak too. If he loses like 40% of it(like ronnie more or less) he'd still be at the very top
But yes, Mbappé doesn't look quite as special as Ronnie. Tbf, the only player who's ever looked that special since is Messi. And it doesn't even mean Mbappé isn't as good at the same age, i mean his performances speak for themselves. But he doesn't look quite as good
IIRC Ronaldo already had surgery on his knee before he moved to PSV, then he had surgery on it at PSV, then twice in the span of two years at inter, then again at Milan...
If you listen to the conspiracy theories, that's got a lot to do with his use of steroids to bulk him up.
Entirely possible in that era(del piero almost certainly was a victim of this), but his knees always were problematic, and he never particularly bulked up until 2002, so. More likely the size of and explosiveness of his leg muscles, combined with the way he moved, put too much stress on the knees. There's also the fact he regularly played with infiltrations of painkillers
He is an awesome player, and has silenced critics during this WC. That being said, I see a player who can be like Henry or peak Owen... R9, CR7 and Messi are freaks of nature.
How does Mbappe's face look like he's in his early 30's when he's about 14/15 there?
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles age differently.
Mbappe's first step and his ability to go from 0 to 100 is way more impressive than his actual speed.
There are plenty of players just as fast if not faster at maximum speed (such as Varane and Dembele in his national team) but most of them don't have Mbappe's acceleration.
There are plenty of players just as fast if not faster at maximum speed (such as Varane and Dembele in his national team) but most of them don't have Mbappe's acceleration.
Its not conspiracy theories, it was quite common to hear youth football coaches here in Portugal during late 90's beggining of 2000's making jokes about this "developed" young Brazilians coming into Europe. Ronaldo or Adriano were the most talked about that.
Mbappe's problem however will be that he has extremely long legs and thus a high center of gravity. He will never be able to dribble like Messi or Hazard, fending off defenders and shielding the ball through his balance and going past them by quick turns of direction. Either he bulks up to give him more upper body strength which would mean that he loses his superb agility or he stays the way he is and will be quite easy to disposses. Especially since his close control isn't all that great.
That's also a difference to Ronaldo. The superior technique aside, Ronaldo had very bulky, strong legs and an at least decent upper body strength even before his injuries. He had a much lower center of gravity than Mbappe.
It's amazing how good Mbappe is at this age but I simply think his ceiling isn't as high as R9's, Messi's or Ronaldinho's to name a few. However, he seems to be really likeable and down to earth so I'd be glad if it turns out I was wrong.
His first step is terrifying, and his change of direction is lethal. Agree his high center of gravity will prevent him from ever being as good a dribbler as Messi or R9, but he's still an incredible dribbler and will be throughout his career. His sometimes erratic touch is down to the fact he's yet to fully learn to control his body at full speed(this is the most absurd quality of R9 and Messi btw, the ability to have complete control over every movement, at top speed, while keeping the ball glued to their feet), and he'll get better at protecting the ball, as this is also something he should naturally learn with more time and experience and work. He has plenty of upper body strenght as it is