Great stuff. Joy to watch R9. Can’t wait for 10years time when we show Mbappe’s comparible clip of when he ran to get a penalty.
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Great stuff. Joy to watch R9. Can’t wait for 10years time when we show Mbappe’s comparible clip of when he ran to get a penalty.
There were long discussions about Mbappe vs Rashford. Trust me....I saw them.
The issue for some was that he had only had 1 good season and that he cannot be judged on that alone.
The other issue was that he did well in the French league, while Rashford was doing well in the EPL.
I'm sure, even now, some believe that Rashford is as good as Mbappe.
On a similar note, some have said (and continue to say):
1, L.Shaw is the best LB in the EPL
2, Had Shaw not got injured, we'd have won the league title with LVG
3, Martial is a future Ball on Dor winner.
4, Ronaldo is not good enough to play for MUFC.
I'm sure that there are some other amusing gems out there.
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He seems to be more mature in his decision making compared to the players around his age (or even older). Still only 19 years old by the way... frightening.
I remember that thread asking who you think will be the breakout star or something along those lines.
I went Mbappe - I know he's pretty damn well known prior to the World Cup but I thought this was the stage where he'd announce himself to the world as a genuine futureBallon d'Or serial winner. That game vs Argentina was incredible. He's 19, and he made Argentina's defence look like 10 year olds despite the plethora of experience among them.
I went Mbappe - I know he's pretty damn well known prior to the World Cup but I thought this was the stage where he'd announce himself to the world as a genuine futureBallon d'Or serial winner. That game vs Argentina was incredible. He's 19, and he made Argentina's defence look like 10 year olds despite the plethora of experience among them.
Where is anyone "crying about it" ?
Just stating an opinion that the current Real-Barca super era that resulted from an unfair competitive advantage of broadcast money in La Liga is boring as feck.
That's not crying, just stating the reality for all non-Real, Barca fans.
And finally something was done about it. No longer do Barca and Real get unfair competitive advantage of broadcast rights. So let's see how well you do when you aren't cannibalizing the rest of La Liga.
It’s weird that you bring up Ronaldo at 19 as he was incredibly frustrating at that age. Mbappe is better at 19 than Ronaldo was imo, certainly more well rounded. Before anyone jumps down my throat, that doesn’t mean I think Mbappe will hit the same heights as what Tonaldo has achieved is incredible
‘People wetting their knickers’ - sounds like something a child would say...no one is praising him over one game Einstein.
And Dembele may do too. He is supremely talented too.
However the difference is that Mbappe is gifted upstairs too. It's extremely evident in his short career so far. Of course anything can happen but I expect him to definitely surpass the names I bolded. I don't think he's nearly as talents as someone like Messi so he's as freakish technically but he is miles more gifted than Bale in this regard.
Different class. Astonishing ability.
A lot of young players were better at 19 than Ronaldo, Quaremsa included. It’s not always about who shows maturity first when it comes to who ends up the best. Demebele could still end up a better player.
Don't worry, it will all come crashing back down at some point.
That was my point, it was obviously Ronaldo was incredibly talented at that age, but there were players better than him at the same age
I might be remembering it incorrectly but didn’t you argue Rashford was better?
You mean Cristiano Ronaldo? Because Ronaldo at 19 was the best player in the world. At 20 he was one of the 10 best players to ever grace a football pitch. Mbappé is eerily similar in terms of style of play and skillset, but the comparison with Ronnie is unfair. Bar maybe Pelé, there was never another player as good as Ronaldo at 18-19-20-21 years of age. He was a singularity
The control and technical skill of Messi, at twice the speed. The goalscoring instinct and finshing of Cristiano. You had to send four guys to stop him in midfield once he turned, otherwise he'd run through your defence like hot knife through butter
You mean Cristiano Ronaldo? Because Ronaldo at 19 was the best player in the world. At 20 he was one of the 10 best players to ever grace a football pitch. Mbappé is eerily similar in terms of style of play and skillset, but the comparison with Ronnie is unfair. Bar maybe Pelé, there was never another player as good as Ronaldo at 18-19-20-21 years of age. He was a singularity
The control and technical skill of Messi, at twice the speed. The goalscoring instinct and finshing of Cristiano. You had to send four guys to stop him in midfield once he turned, otherwise he'd run through your defence like hot knife through butter
Re-read the post I quoted, Brazilian Ronaldo never played in the prem...
You mean Cristiano Ronaldo? Because Ronaldo at 19 was the best player in the world. At 20 he was one of the 10 best players to ever grace a football pitch. Mbappé is eerily similar in terms of style of play and skillset, but the comparison with Ronnie is unfair. Bar maybe Pelé, there was never another player as good as Ronaldo at 18-19-20-21 years of age. He was a singularity
The control and technical skill of Messi, at twice the speed. The goalscoring instinct and finshing of Cristiano. You had to send four guys to stop him in midfield once he turned, otherwise he'd run through your defence like hot knife through butter
It’s kind of hard to explain unless you actually witnessed it and even then we probably didn’t realise how extraordinary it was it the time. Which is why these Mbappe world class comments are so annoying.
Where has anyone said he’s world class?
I argued that there wasn't much between them at the time. Mbappe is clearly better.
Don’t get me wrong I think Rashford is very good, and has the tools to become great. I just don’t think he has as much potential as Mbappe. Though I fully understand that these things change quickly in football.
He said if they played in same/similar circumstances then Rashord would put out similar numbers.
Put 19 year old Ronaldo Lima in this France team and he does even better than Mbappe.
Ah fair enough, I seemed to recall him putting Rashford ahead but obviously I got that wrong
That’s no shame on Mbappe though, Ronaldo was unreal
Why go and play in France?
What a waste.
What a waste.
When I saw him score for Monaco (at 18 years of age) at Dortmund and the quality of finish . . . I knew this guy was the real deal.
I know there’s a 1% chance of us getting him, but he is truly the one player I want at United more than anyone. I’ve never been happy with the Martial rumours, even if it meant getting Bale. But for Mbappe? It would be so exciting.
Not really. His career will be judged on WC, CL and Euros performance ultimately and PSG is just as good a platform. If he can help them win a CL with Neymar that is a bigger accomplishment IMO than going to Barca or Real and winning it.
The comparisons between Mbappe and the young Brazilian Ronaldo are off. Mbappe is much less of a trickster and focuses more on pure power than the Ronaldo. The best comparison I can come up with George Weah. Incredibly quick, powerful and a good dribbler but without the skills and tricks of R9.
It's an easy league. Day in day out he's playing against cannon fodder.
He should be in England or Spain.
It shouldn't be though. A vast majority of football is at the league level and should be one of the heavier weights when analyzing the career of any player.
Incredibly, incredibly exciting talent. There was previously some talk that City was in for him, wasn't there? Imagine if they had this prodigy instead of Sterling
There are no algorithms or formulas necessary. Just watch Mbappé with your eyes and you will see he is very, very special. You will also see that he’s better than Dembele, Rashford, Martial and the rest.
This age of graduate football fans is a bit grating and everything is some statistical over-analysis.
This age of graduate football fans is a bit grating and everything is some statistical over-analysis.
Its the consequence of the super club era and how money is more important now than ever before.
Personally I don't really consider playing for Real or Barca in the 2010s era (at the peak of broadcast revenue imbalance) to be much more impressive than playing for PSG or Bayern. In this era the resource disparity is so massive, even in La Liga they only play 4 tough matches a year. Sure occasionally there are some upsets but when you look at historic stats like league points and goals scored for RM and Barca, the 2010s are extremely unbalanced.
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Nominated for Golden Boy again (Fosu-Mensah, Dalot and Angel Gomes nominated too). Surely will be the first one to win it twice.
Nominated for Golden Boy again (Fosu-Mensah, Dalot and Angel Gomes nominated too). Surely will be the first one to win it twice.
Exactly. Sometimes your eyes are more than enough. He is much much better than all those you mentioned
In any league most of the opponents are cannon fodder, exactly the same in Spain and England.
League football will only really cement players as legends for their club or in that country. The way to global recognition will always be success in the champions league or the world cup. It's why nobody really gives a feck that Barcelona walked to the title and messi was top scorer in the league, while Ronaldo killed it in the champions league and got all the plaudits for the season. Of course it matters, but it's nowhere near the most important. You can argue for a consistency basis, but that doesnt define a great player. Stepping up at the big occasions and making your mark in those games will always be the thing that everyone remembers. It's why Zidane will always be one of the best ever, he pretty much was always the best player on the park in the big games. Iniesta the same. Nobody remembers how they played in 90% of the games.
That’s true. Which is why I don’t get the over hype. He hasn’t shown me nothing i haven’t witnessed from a previous young talent neither does he excit me more than the previous.
Overhype comes with the territory. I mean there is always this craving to witness the birth of one of the best ever.
He is a kid, doing exceptionnaly well but more than that is way too early
Its still at least 60-70% of a players career. The WC and CL are merely the tip of the iceberg of a players historiography, the league is the foundation and a bulk of the work. Also, the WC had more of a special stature in the past that is gradually eroding in the age of TV deals and internet streams where anyone around the world can watch league football with regularity.
There's a parallel with other sports. You can win 95% of the regular tournaments but in the end it's the world championships and olympic titles that matter.
You're saying the French league is as difficult to play in than the PL and La Liga?
Nonsense.
I really like Mbappe, but I fell that there has been an overreaction on his talent based on yesterdays match. Maybe that just me