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Kylian Mbappé | Player Performance Thread
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Imagine going into next season with Mbappe, Griezmann, Zlatan and Rashford up front.
Doesn't matter what players Mbappe has around him, his finishing is top class. That's just immense natural talent.
His combination of pace, power, skill, movement and finishing mean even at this young age he's already a huge player, whoever gets him will be very happy. Haven't seen a player this close at 19 to being the finished product in a long time.
Hopefully Jose is still bewitched.
I agree with this sentiment overall, in that supporters are too quick to hype young talents.
But I think Mbappe is objectively a cut above all of these other players you've mentioned. In 1851 first team minutes this season he has 21 goals and 11 assists, as a 17-year-old. That is just absurd production, far beyond what any of those other players managed in their big breakout seasons. For comparison, Martial in his best season for United scored 18 goals and 11 assists in 4663 minutes, whereas Mbappe has produced more goal contributions (albeit in a weaker league) in less than half the minutes while three years younger. And Mbappe has done it on big stages against clubs like City and BvB as well. So while its definitely true that young players often get overhyped, Mbappe may be the rare case of a young player who genuinely deserves the hype.
He is 18. Agree with what you said.
Well, if he isn't, then C'est La Vie.
Joking aside, the more I see this guy, the more I want him at United.
Will probably go to Real Madrid. Feels like their 'type of purchase' to me.
Martial-mbappe-Dembele 
I can't see anything other than a big transfer to Madrid or United this summer, nobody is gonna wait around and risk losing him.
No love for Martial?
Not sure if you're just pointing that out or whether it's said with negative connotation. I'm assuming the former.
It is right for them to absolutely rinse whoever it is who wants their jewel in the crown, though. If he is what people are touting him as, whatever they get for him will be seen as a just fee.
He's doing all the right things to put himself in the bracket with the actual elite strikers who would be expected to go for astronomical fees. The element of risk with him is obviously far greater given he can't be a bona fide top-bracket striker within a season, but then, the risk is still there that he is actually the real deal, repeats this season's feats (assuming he stayed at Monaco) and would then be the most expensive player on the planet outright. So it's hard to say when is the best time to go in for him or how much is too much if he is destined to be the next Henry or the like.
It's refreshing to finally see a talent bursting out who can be seen as a world-beater to match players of the past. He seems to be comfortable at the highest level there is in club football, which puts him into a different category than other up-and-comers who have yet to leave their mark on the CL.
Future French strike force,that look scary in fact.Martial-mbappe-Dembele
Martial won't make IMHO. Just not near them in terms of pure talent
Madrid can afford to wait for season or two , no way we'll get him later if we miss to sign him this year.
I'm guessing he'll still be out wide.
Sad how Martial has been written off now. Mbappe is a great talent, but I've read that his conversion rate is the highest in Europe which is quite ridiculous for a youngster. It won't surprise me if he has an underwhelming second season kinda like what's happening to Martial, Rashord, Coman etc.
Unreal talent - should be wary of the fact that this whole Monaco team is a bit of a phenomenon though. They play together so well, and considering how young a lot of them are, I think it would be more than likely a few of them would take a step backwards - in the short-term - by moving, Mbappe included.
Ahh, didn't realise that's what you meant, thought you were another one forgetting about our old toy Tony!
As long he stays on that LW, I doubt that someone would knock him to grab that position in near future unless some someone emerge.But if he's contesting for that one striker position with Mbappe then its going to really difficult.
No I've got high hopes he can kick on next year. Definitely needs more minutes to show his true form.
Anything is possible and I hope I am completely wrong. On the left wing, he can make a great career. This has been a tough season for him. Let's hope with a good preseason and a strong mentality, he will improve a lot in the next one.
Just comparing this with what England have makes me sad.
You could be right, Lemar is currently better than Martial or Coman. No one really said it but Lemar was the only player on the same wave length than the spanish players when he entered last month.
really hope he comes to the PL, even with your lot or Chelsea as would love to see him playing here week in week out. Absolutely outrageous talent, the finish for the 3rd goal yesterday was absolutely world class.
I don't know why people keep referring to Martial like he's on the way down or is history. Do they think Mbappe wouldn't have periods of poor form if he were to come?
Don't want. Not coz I don't rate him highly, but I can't be arsed with us spending another £90m or whatever on a player then shunting him on the LW coz Jose refuses to play with two strikers. We've got enough young forwards on the left wing struggling for form, we don't need an £80m plus one to add to them.
Spend that amount on a Carrick replacement, a speedy winger and a CB. We'll look a lot more solid.
Spend that amount on a Carrick replacement, a speedy winger and a CB. We'll look a lot more solid.
No one truly is.
That's the modern football fan for you. Three goals in consecutive games and you're the next Pele, a poor period (even as a young lad) and you're finished. Its ludicrous.
This lad looks special but as you say, he'll no doubt hit a rough patch - especially if he jumps at a big move now and spends time on the bench while he adjusts to a new league. He'd be better placed staying where he is for a few years.
He's only 18 and I'm already sick of hearing about him tbh. Better get used to it I suppose.
Get him if Griezmann doesn't come. He is better than any other strikers who are available.
Mbappe was fantastic last night but I rather not see him go Man Utd. Mourinho won't get the best out of him. Can't even get Martial and co to function.
He is a smart kid with good support around him. There is no way he will go to such a disfunctional team such as Manchester United under a coach that will not play to his strengths and stifle his growth and development.
He will most likely stay at Monaco for another year as L'equipe has reported and will be the next galacticos to replace Ronaldo.
Martial's ostracism is a big warning sign. Manchester United are some ways behind Monaco as a team and football wise. He would be forced to defend and they lack no attacking automatisms like most Mourinho teams and this has been even noted by his former players.
He will most likely stay at Monaco for another year as L'equipe has reported and will be the next galacticos to replace Ronaldo.
Martial's ostracism is a big warning sign. Manchester United are some ways behind Monaco as a team and football wise. He would be forced to defend and they lack no attacking automatisms like most Mourinho teams and this has been even noted by his former players.
Where is all of this coming from? I've barely seen anyone write Martial off. Claiming Mbappe is a bigger talent and a better player isn't insisting Martial still isn't a special player ffs. Mbappe has been better for Monaco than Martial was, whilst also looking better in the CL, at a younger age. His finishing percentage for a kid is phenomenal. That being said, Martial is still a great talent, even if he isn't as impressive as some of the other French youngsters are. It's completely understandable to rate more than one player.
My ire is directed at modern football where only the last 5 matches seems to matter. The press and Twitter are largely responsible for this because they need to be re-hashing old stories week after week and posting new things hourly on websites to keep people clicking.
Your comments, whilst perfectly reasonable point at what I'm talking about - the cycle of boom and bust for young players: young player breaks through or signs for a big team, makes an immediate impact and the fans and press laud him as a brilliant "world class" player with a huge future, he gets linked to all sorts of other big clubs. The following season his form dips due to numerous factors (not least that it's pretty normal for young players and they're now targeted by opposition players), player doesn't play every week, press invent a fall out with the manager and/or link him again to a "way out" of his "nightmare" at the club, meanwhile fans have identified a new "insert players name here" playing in a foreign league who's just hit the bubble and is tearing it up, fans conclude he's better than what they have and maybe their young lad isn't quite the next Ronaldo as they once thought.
This has happened (broadly speaking) to Martial and Rashford (and arguably Luke Shaw) in the last year. The fact is very few players ever break through and are consistently brilliant from the age of 18 - 25. They may still become world class players and in fact, a bit of a drop in form now is liable to have a positive impact on their own development as players and as people. They were on a pedestal, now they're not - it's a good test of their mental strength and it'll show you how badly they want success.
This kid looks very good based on limited appearances in the CL and regular appearances in a league which you would say would be generally less intense. Maybe he is a great player in waiting, but there have been a lot of those who moved to better leagues and weren't the great players people expected.
This rant isn't directed at you by the way. I just think that (some) fans and the press generally should be more measured in terms of both praise and criticism aimed at young players. people are too quick to laud a player and too quick to criticise.
I really like the look of Lemar, looks technically sound and plays with good intelligence.