what kind of joke is this? He’s one of the players the team should be built around. Nonsense
Kobbie Mainoo (out)
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Maybe he will go all William Gallas and threaten to score own goals every game.
Which under Woodward involved us offering the player exactly what they demanded.
I'm exaggerating a bit but it was a response to "what are he and his agent smoking", as if the agent were some idiot who has no idea what he's doing.
Don't these profits and losses count over 3 years? (i.e., the average loss over the past 3 years cannot exceed $N?)
I'm not sure how that impacts player contracts since those can be amortized over 5 instead of 3.
I’m not saying that Maguire is as useful as Antony, he’s a better player than him. But he clearly doesn’t deserve that salary, never did and can still be used as a benchmark (we’re paying an average defender the same salary that Arsenal pays to the best CB in the league and not much less than Liverpool pays the best Premier League CB of this generation). I don’t agree with your respective list standings argument either but it’s not the discussion for this thread. I’ve picked him & Antony because they get the same salary that Mainoo apparently demands.
He wants £200k. We'll meet him somewhere in the middle. No footballer gets what they ask for. Its a game.
Not the news I expected to see today
Kobbie main blue?
I feel comfortable joking about this because it's so obviously not going to happen.
I feel comfortable joking about this because it's so obviously not going to happen.
Imagine if Chelsea uses the money they received for Mount to buy Mainoo.
The campaign from United Stand has started already now it looks like Rashford is leaving.
We'll start seeing posts about his "lifestyle" after every defeat.
Don't fall for it. Stop letting fake United fans divide our fanbase.
We'll start seeing posts about his "lifestyle" after every defeat.
Don't fall for it. Stop letting fake United fans divide our fanbase.
I don’t believe it and to me sounds like the club are laying the ground work to butter the fans up for a sale.
If we are selling players like Marino, we might as well close up shop.
If we are selling players like Marino, we might as well close up shop.
What's a fair wage for him according to you folks here?
Players like Eriksen, Guimaraes, Tielemans, Kovacic, Mac Allister and Gravenberch are ~150k p/w.
Szoboslai is on 120k p/w.
It has to be a tier below that for me. 100k p/w seems fair and he can agitate for a new contract if he becomes even more successful.
Players like Eriksen, Guimaraes, Tielemans, Kovacic, Mac Allister and Gravenberch are ~150k p/w.
Szoboslai is on 120k p/w.
It has to be a tier below that for me. 100k p/w seems fair and he can agitate for a new contract if he becomes even more successful.
If he wants a stupid contact then let him go while he has value. Nobody is above the club. He's worth 100k/week max at the moment.
And at that point even less players should be seen as unsellable.
Now on topic, I used to have a weak spot for academy players but now I don't care as much, most of them aren't committed enough to improve as Footballers or become leaders that give the club stability. It's counterproductive to give them a special status when they have deserved it by their actions or performances. So even for them the question should always be whether we can improve from their sale.
You don't believe it but yet you do?
80k max, and even that's purely awarding potential, not his actual performance this season.
Ideally about 100-120k but realistically I’d imagine that they’d settle around 150 given his and, well, our profile. Sadly United get United tax not just on transfers.
I mean, he’s already a better player than someone like Tielemans… he’s incomparable with Eriksen (in a good way) and he’s in a better position than Gravenberch was when he was signing his contract (important distinction — he’s not a better player right now; Gravenberch has been the best midfielder in the league this season).
It'll be fine I'm sure. I can't see a protracted negotiation. Greed is really not a good look at OT at the moment.
It’s obviously the latest culdesac of BS, but given that there are multiple sources (probably by way of a agent leaking to journos), it’s fine.
Meh, he can be bumped to just below £100k, which is still fecking substantial compared to other leagues, with parties agreeing that we’ll sit down in a few years and look at a bumper contract if he keeps improving.
That would be a different issue, related to the club's profits and losses as a whole. IIRC we're already very much up against that limit.
Dan?
I think he is a future star. Type of midfielder which is a dying breed. Can tackle, can create, can score, can pass, can play defence.
BUT, it is a time to end this nonsense with contracts. IF (which i don't believe) he wants 200k then yeah, i would sell him. But 100 mil would be starting price.
Saka is on 200k, ffs.
BUT, it is a time to end this nonsense with contracts. IF (which i don't believe) he wants 200k then yeah, i would sell him. But 100 mil would be starting price.
Saka is on 200k, ffs.
What about second-order effects?
How will other players' agents behave when they realize the club is open to renegotiating contracts that still have 3.5 years to run?
There are always multiple stories, arguably even more with clickbait nonsense.
Sam C and that nob, Wheeler, from The Mail shouldn’t be classed as sources. Chuck loads of crap out, loads of others repeat/regurgitate it, tons of clicks. Job done, time for an early lunch.
That was two seasons ago, they've already spent it
And he reportedly wants to instantly go up to 200k a week ?
What are he and his agent smoking.
They probably wouldn't get that approx. 100k they're looking for if they started negotiations asking for that.
He's on £20k a week. That's completely unrealistic for a starting midfielder at Manchester United and an England international. £200k right now is crazy, but it's absolutely right to reward his performances in the last year with improved terms. No problem with anything up to £100k a week.
Much more likely than Chris Wheeler being right. And the sheer balls on him to call it an exclusive.
Feel like it should still be heavily incentivised at this point. We reward young players with silly money too early, only to see them drop off a cliff as soon as the ink has dried
Up to 100k a week, if he doesn't like it then sell him.
We can't keep on doing the same mistakes.
If he gets 200k now, he's asking for 300k in 3 years and he'd be 23 at the time.
We can't keep on doing the same mistakes.
If he gets 200k now, he's asking for 300k in 3 years and he'd be 23 at the time.
Gimme a payrise pwease.
I think most contracts are incentivised.
With 80k he’d be 20th on the list of our top earners, 5k ahead of Malacia with only him, Evans, Garnacho, Amad (who’ll likely sign a new deal by then), back up keepers, Gore & Collyer behind him. Do you think it’s a fair representation of his value for the club?
Our wage bill is a bit of a shocker if you spell it out like that. No way should he get (or settle for) less than 100k in that comparison
His cost cutting has me worried that he would. I would be livid if we sold Garna and Kobbie and surely we would never.
The fact that we've made myriad terrible mistakes doesn't mean we need to keep making them
Most of them are, heavily. Players rarely see the full amount unless their numbers are up there with the best in the league and we're playing CL football.
Even now their wages are 25% less than the reported numbers due to not being in the Champions League. It baffles me when people report Casemiro as £350k, Rashford as £300k etc when that just isn't the case right now and is highly unlikely to be the case next season either.