Klaas-Jan Huntelaar

Ekeke said:
He was given his chance. He did quite well, scored some goals. Real Madrid still want rid of him. They've seen him strut his stuff and have decided that even though he'll score goals, he isnt a Real Madrid quality player.
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They want to get rid of around ten players, it really doesn't say much. I wouldn't read too much into Real Madrid showing him the door; They desperately needed a striker within the winter transfer window and Huntelaar was the only decent option they could find; But he isn't exactly a 'Galactico', is he? I'm not really surprised they want him out, and £15m (if there is any truth in this deal) might be a very decent buy.
If Huntelaar receives enough service (and I'm dead sure he would at Manchester United), he will score goals. Loads of goals. And personally I'll care feck all about his overall play (which would improve as well the longer he would stay).
 
No thanks. He will score loads, but only against shit opposition. When we are up against the likes of Chelsea, Barcelona etc, he will go missing. Great finisher and that's it. If we were to get anybody back, we have to reinforce our centre midfield and nobody better than Wesley Sneijder. I don't mind Robben too :)
 
Why say he is a cast off ? If KJH is coming as part of the deal it could have been a case of, ok you can have Ronaldo but we get Huntelaar in part exchange.
Whether he was up for sale anyway is unclear.
 
SittingBull said:
No thanks. He will score loads, but only against shit opposition. When we are up against the likes of Chelsea, Barcelona etc, he will go missing. Great finisher and that's it. If we were to get anybody back, we have to reinforce our centre midfield and nobody better than Wesley Sneijder. I don't mind Robben too :)
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You obviously have evidence to make such negative claims I take it?

I mean, nobody would say a thing like that without evidence. Would they?

Sneijder/ Robben and reinforce don't go well together.

We want to reinforce the midfield. Get De Rossi.
 
The only reason Madrid want rid of him is because his overall play hasnt impressed them. They bought him as Van Nistelrooy's successor and having had him play there for 6 months they now realise there is a huge gap in their overall games - that Huntelaar's finishing is in the same class as Van Nistelrooy's but his hold up play and football intelligence simply arent.

They want David Villa instead who is not a galactico either but offers far more to the team. The same finishing ability but also lots of other things on top of it. Pace, passion, determination, great linkup play, the ability to create for a team mate. This is the type of player we should be looking for as well.

Berbatov + Huntelaar would be the laziest, slowest front line I've ever seen at a top club.
 
Would be a great signing. Fergie already figured out that you need to change your system every year to survive in Europe. We might go back to the traditional style for a couple of years and signing Huntelaar and pairing him with Rooney would be an obvious choice.
 
Merman said:
Would be a great signing. Fergie already figured out that you need to change your system every year to survive in Europe. We might go back to the traditional style for a couple of years and signing Huntelaar and pairing him with Rooney would be an obvious choice.
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Yeah that worked out brilliantly for us this year. We changed our front line and the player we brought in didnt play in the latter stages of the tournament. :wenger:
 
Before idiots start spraffing on about how Huntelaar is this and that, is there anything at all in this, or is it complete bollocks?
 
Berbatov is good enough at holding the ball and finding players in space that I think Huntelaar would work well off him with Rooney doing the leg work.
 
Ekeke said:
The only reason Madrid want rid of him is because his overall play hasnt impressed them. They bought him as Van Nistelrooy's successor and having had him play there for 6 months they now realise there is a huge gap in their overall games - that Huntelaar's finishing is in the same class as Van Nistelrooy's but his hold up play and football intelligence simply arent.

They want David Villa instead who is not a galactico either but offers far more to the team. The same finishing ability but also lots of other things on top of it. Pace, passion, determination, great linkup play, the ability to create for a team mate. This is the type of player we should be looking for as well.

Berbatov + Huntelaar would be the laziest, slowest front line I've ever seen at a top club.
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Rooney ;)
 
Ekeke said:
The only reason Madrid want rid of him is because his overall play hasnt impressed them. They bought him as Van Nistelrooy's successor and having had him play there for 6 months they now realise there is a huge gap in their overall games - that Huntelaar's finishing is in the same class as Van Nistelrooy's but his hold up play and football intelligence simply arent.

They want David Villa instead who is not a galactico either but offers far more to the team. The same finishing ability but also lots of other things on top of it. Pace, passion, determination, great linkup play, the ability to create for a team mate. This is the type of player we should be looking for as well.

Berbatov + Huntelaar would be the laziest, slowest front line I've ever seen at a top club.
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We wouldn't play Berbatov and Huntelaar up front, it would be Rooney and Berbatov/Huntelaar or a different system that accomodates them but in that system Berbatov and Rooney wouldn't be out and out strikers.

Personally, I don't know much about Huntellar, I haven't watched him enough. The suspition is that Huntelaar isn't the next RvN but more the next Kezman. Personally, I have no idea and rely on SAF's ability to estimate strikers.
 
With Ronaldo's gone we will need goals. Huntelaar can provide that. Of course we will need to back him up with the right balance of creativity and workrate.
 
MUFCgal said:
Rooney ;)
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Alright, fair enough. But even so - does that mean Berbatov our £31 million striker on the bench ? Or do you think Huntelaar is going to come to sit on our bench instead of Madrid's ?

If you're going to have 3 quality strikers, you'd best make sure they can all play together. I voiced my concern last summer that Tevez and Berbatov wouldnt work well. I cant say they exactly proved me wrong and now I say the same with Huntelaar and Berbatov - they dont fit at all. Not even as much as Rooney and Berbatov fit together.
 
sincher said:
Before idiots start spraffing on about how Huntelaar is this and that, is there anything at all in this, or is it complete bollocks?
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Assume EVERYTHING is complete bollocks, until you read it from David Gill, Sir Alex or the official site.

Thats my advice.
 
MUFCgal said:
Real Madrid want superstars though and Huntelaar isn't a mega superstar. Even when Huntelaar went there, I didn't think he'd be a keeper. I've always had a feeling he'll end up with us and I think that's still the case, certainly now more so. He still didn't do too badly with Madrid, I think he'd suit us more.
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he wont oust VDS from the first team for at least a season

;)
 
Treble said:
We wouldn't play Berbatov and Huntelaar up front, it would be Rooney and Berbatov/Huntelaar or a different system that accomodates them but in that system Berbatov and Rooney wouldn't be out and out strikers.

Personally, I don't know much about Huntellar, I haven't watched him enough. The suspition is that Huntelaar isn't the next RvN but more the next Kezman. Personally, I have no idea and rely on SAF's ability to estimate strikers.
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Nah he's better than Kezman. It would be a bit unfair to compare those two players.

Huntelaar is one of those strikers who will score goals wherever he plays. But usually those types of players have a bit more to their game than just scoring. Normally they have some pace, physical presence, hold up ability, a pass to set up a team mate now and again - Huntelaar is extremely average in all of these things. No better than Macheda or Welbeck in them.

We compare Huntelaar to Van Nistelrooy because he's dutch and has a similar frame. But the truth is he's more like a Michael Owen without pace or Inzaghi. He'll score you goals but his lack of other abilities mean that the side have to work around him before creating chances for him.
 
Ekeke said:
Alright, fair enough. But even so - does that mean Berbatov our £31 million striker on the bench ? Or do you think Huntelaar is going to come to sit on our bench instead of Madrid's ?

If you're going to have 3 quality strikers, you'd best make sure they can all play together. I voiced my concern last summer that Tevez and Berbatov wouldnt work well. I cant say they exactly proved me wrong and now I say the same with Huntelaar and Berbatov - they dont fit at all. Not even as much as Rooney and Berbatov fit together.
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Rooney is the main man and if we get Huntelaar, then both him and Berbatov will be made to understand the situation about partnering Rooney up front. If both are happy with that, then it'll be good. If not, then bugger it all :D
 
Ekeke said:
Nah he's better than Kezman. It would be a bit unfair to compare those two players.

Huntelaar is one of those strikers who will score goals wherever he plays. But usually those types of players have a bit more to their game than just scoring. Normally they have some pace, physical presence, hold up ability, a pass to set up a team mate now and again - Huntelaar is extremely average in all of these things. No better than Macheda or Welbeck in them.

We compare Huntelaar to Van Nistelrooy because he's dutch and has a similar frame. But the truth is he's more like a Michael Owen without pace or Inzaghi. He'll score you goals but his lack of other abilities mean that the side have to work around him before creating chances for him.
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similar records in Eredivisie, Kezman's record was better IIRC.
 
In my opinion Huntelaar would be the perfect partner for Rooney/Tevez.
 
Ekeke said:
Yeah that worked out brilliantly for us this year. We changed our front line and the player we brought in didnt play in the latter stages of the tournament. :wenger:
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He did play a big part in the Inter and Porto games if you forgot. We did not really need him against an English team in the semis. Change in system won us the league too imo.
 
Treble said:
similar records in Eredivisie, Kezman's record was better IIRC.
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No, I understand why you did compare them :lol: I'm just saying that, having seen Huntelaar a decent amount of time, I'm sure he'll travel better than Kezman has.

But lets be fair - thats not hard. And he wouldnt have to be a success at a top club to achieve that. Because Kezman has been pure shit.

Huntelaar is a few levels above that, but a level below Madrid or United - unless we are being very generous to him.
 
Merman said:
He did play a big part in the Inter and Porto games if you forgot. We did not really need him against an English team in the semis. Change in system won us the league too imo.
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Right so now your theory is that not only did we have to change how we played if we wanted to "survive" in europe, but also to survive in the premier league?

We'd have won it with or without Berbatov. Even keeping Saha. But since he played lots of games he had a decent contribution in them.
 
Ekeke said:
He'll score you goals but his lack of other abilities mean that the side have to work around him before creating chances for him.
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That's a very accurate description of RvN, I must say.

He never scored a goal outside the box for United, useless outside it in many ways... would lay off a ball here and there etc, but a great finisher inside the area.

I have seen Huntelaar score plenty outside the box. Here is one area I feel they are clearly different. Huntelaar gives us something different up front, I for one would welcome him here. I'd love to have Benzema with him if Tevez goes, we'd have a wonderful spread of strikers then.
 
devilish said:
In my opinion Huntelaar would be the perfect partner for Rooney/Tevez.
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But Tevez is probably leaving, and Huntelaar and Berbatov aren't exactly the most mobile partnership, so we'd have to play Rooney every game to be a threat. And with his injury record...just won't happen.

I'd rather someone who complements both Berbatov and Rooney.
 
devilish said:
In my opinion Huntelaar would be the perfect partner for Rooney/Tevez.
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Good lord.

We had this rubbish last season about Berbatov.

Are we going to sign a "perfect" partner for Rooney every season?

How many seasons will it take before you realise that maybe you arent the best at picking "perfect" partners for him?

Wayne Rooney's perfect partner isnt a less than average athlete with average overall footballing ability with top quality finishing.

In fact, if we wanted that we could get Ruud back and play him till he's 40 - he still wouldnt give less to the team in overall play than Huntelaar.
 
Ekeke said:
Good lord.

We had this rubbish last season about Berbatov.

Are we going to sign a "perfect" partner for Rooney every season?

How many seasons will it take before you realise that maybe you arent the best at picking "perfect" partners for him?

Wayne Rooney's perfect partner isnt a less than average athlete with average overall footballing ability with top quality finishing.

In fact, if we wanted that we could get Ruud back and play him till he's 40 - he still wouldnt give less to the team in overall play than Huntelaar.
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Now that Ronaldo is gone we will need someone who can lead the line. Berbatov isn't that sort of player. Huntelaar may not be my first choice but he can provide that. What's the point in having players who drop deep and create chances if they dont know how to put them in the net?
 
The Wizard said:
That's a very accurate description of RvN, I must say.

He never scored a goal outside the box for United, useless outside it in many ways... would lay off a ball here and there etc, but a great finisher inside the area.

I have seen Huntelaar score plenty outside the box. Here is one area I feel they are clearly different. Huntelaar gives us something different up front, I for one would welcome him here. I'd love to have Benzema with him if Tevez goes, we'd have a wonderful spread of strikers then.
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Actually its not. It might have felt that way at the time but the truth is Ruud was a brilliant front man with his hold up play.

He had the physicality to hold onto the ball and would often pick the ball up just past the half way line and spread the ball well for our counter-attacking move.

Also, when he first came he had a good amount of speed. It was only due to injuries that he started to slow down and when he left the club he was about as immobile as Huntelaar.

Huntelaar can be lethal around the box if a chance is created for him but he provides us nothing Welbeck and Macheda couldnt before there.
 
He is not my first option but if he is truly rated at 15m then he will be the bargain of the year expecially considering that Valencia is rated 17m.
 
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