Klaas-Jan Huntelaar

Huntelaar doesnt use his physique particularly well though. His hold up play isnt very good.

What he would provide to the side is a player who will take most of the chances that are created for him.

He isnt particularly good at helping the team create those chances for him, with movement or team work and hold up play.

He's just good at putting the ball in the net on the odd occasion he gets the ball played or whipped into him perfectly enough for him to get his finish away. He will rarely miss when the chances come, they just wont come brilliantly frequently.

And in much of the games that is more then enough.

Id rather see us sign Benzema but the guy is rated 40m. At 15m Huntelaar would be the bargain of the season.

PS if you manage to block Rooney, Ronaldo and Berbatov you would probably end up winning even against the present side. Tevez is a hardworking chap but he hardly has the technique nor the physical frame to create and score loads of goals by himself.
 
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I wouldnt say that this team is static.

----------Hargreaves/Fletch---------Carrick/Anderson--------------

Ronaldo------------------Berbatov---------------------Rooney

-------------------------Huntelaar-------------------------

Let us not forget also that Andy Cole started his career (at Newcastle) as goal poacher and ended up one of the most hardworking strikers of his generation. Huntelaar may not be renowned for his workrate (he will never work hard for the ball as Tevez does) but he is not a lazy player, and he knows when he needs to drop deep.

Stating that, if we need more steel we can always stick Park on the left and play Rooney upfront with Anderson/Giggs/Berbatov/Ronaldo at his back.

Andy Cole's movement was always fantastic, regardless of what his workrate was like.

When Huntelaar drops deep he ends up slowing down the play so much he becomes beyond useless.

Seems like you've not watched much of him at Madrid.
 
Andy Cole's movement was always fantastic, regardless of what his workrate was like.

When Huntelaar drops deep he ends up slowing down the play so much he becomes beyond useless.

Seems like you've not watched much of him at Madrid.

Andy Cole himself used to say that during his Newcastle's time he used to stick upfront and simply converting chances into goals. It was at United were he learnt how to drop deep and work for the ball.

And Huntelaar is certainly not as slow as Berbatov.
 
Andy Cole himself used to say that during his Newcastle's time he used to stick upfront and simply converting chances into goals. It was at United were he learnt how to drop deep and work for the ball.

I'm not talking about dropping deep or working for the ball, I'm talking about stretching defences with his movement.

Clearly you're struggling to grasp the concept of 'movement'.
 
Never going to happen, just like most of these "rumour mill" threads.

Huntelaar was very good when playing in an extremely weak league (Eridivise) and showed at Real Madrid that he's a bit poo, in all honesty.
 
I'm not talking about dropping deep or working for the ball, I'm talking about stretching defences with his movement.

Clearly you're struggling to grasp the concept of 'movement'.

Reverting back to insults. Go take some air son.
 
Never going to happen, just like most of these "rumour mill" threads.

Huntelaar was very good when playing in an extremely weak league (Eridivise) and showed at Real Madrid that he's a bit poo, in all honesty.

8 goals in 17 matches (many of which as a reserve) is not a bad goalscoring tally
 
8 goals in 17 matches (many of which as a reserve) is not a bad goalscoring tally

8 goals in 19 games, actually. And he started 2/3 of those games.

Strikers need to do more than just score goals to play effectively for a big team now.
 
8 goals in 18 games. He was subbed in in 6 of them and subbed out in another 6. He also had 3 assists compared to the 6 done by workrate extraordinaire Carlitos Tevez. Thats despite Tevez playing in 36 matches.

I guess that he offers a bit more then what you say.

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1202756935870/jugador/Jugador/Huntelaar.htm

http://www.setanta.com/US/Articles/Football/2009/05/15/Opta-on-TevezBerbatov/gnid-53066/

You do know the reason he was subbed off was because he's not very good and doesn't contribute anything to the build up?

He hasn't scored any goals coming on as a sub, which would mean that having him as a third choice striker would be silly.

He's got a goal every 140 minutes, yes it's a good record.

If you'd watched him for Madrid you'd see he contributed nothing else to the team, and that's why he's 3rd choice, and that's why he's not wanted.

He's too one dimensional.
 
Oh I see, thats why they want rid of him then?

Its funny because I dont see any stories about them getting rid of Higuain.

No one knows whether they want to get rid of him or not, I mean its all rumours. Stating that I won't be surprised if the Galacticos circus want to get rid or a player. I mean they got rid of players like Etoo and Owen (who scored 13 goals in 35 matches), the last for the sole reason that he wasn't Galactico enough.
 
You do know the reason he was subbed off was because he's not very good and doesn't contribute anything to the build up?

He hasn't scored any goals coming on as a sub, which would mean that having him as a third choice striker would be silly.

He's got a goal every 140 minutes, yes it's a good record.

If you'd watched him for Madrid you'd see he contributed nothing else to the team, and that's why he's 3rd choice, and that's why he's not wanted.

He's too one dimensional.

So I presume you can say the same thing about Tevez (who is used as 3rd choice striker)?
 
How is telling someone they don't understand a simple word like 'movement' not an insult?

Seems in both shape and form to be an insult to me.

Because he clearly doesn't understand what I mean by movement.

It's a factual statement.

The definition of movement in general terms is different to how it's used in footballing terms, and it could just be getting lost in translation.
 
So I presume you can say the same thing about Tevez (who is used as 3rd choice striker)?

Tevez isn't one dimensional.

Tevez isn't a good goalscorer.

Tevez is good when coming off the bench.

So no, I don't say anything remotely similar when talking about Tevez because he's a very different player at a club with much better strikers.
 
How is telling someone they don't understand a simple word like 'movement' not an insult?

Seems in both shape and form to be an insult to me.

Its always the same thing about Brwned. The best way to do when he revert to insults is to ignore him.
 
He's a world class finisher.
Beyond useless outside of that.
His movement's good, his hold-up play is decent, but when he gets on the ball he's really, really bad.
I tend to agree, even though I think your judgement on his overall play is a bit harsh. I'd certainly take him for something like 15m, he would score shitloads of goals for us.
 
I tend to agree, even though I think your judgement on his overall play is a bit harsh. I'd certainly take him for something like 15m, he would score shitloads of goals for us.
I'd only take him if Real Madrid paid us 15 million pounds to take him off their hands.

If van Nistelrooy was forced to stand still, his name would be Huntelaar.
 
Huntelaar's just been sent off in Real's last game of the season, maybe that will bring his price down a few million for us?!?!?!
 
He'd score goals, but at what price?

I've never seen anything from him to suggest he could play in a system like ours.
 
Higuain is a good player, mainly due to his ability to play a wide role. Like Kuyt but with lots more ability and age on his side.
 
8 goals in 19 games, actually. And he started 2/3 of those games.

Strikers need to do more than just score goals to play effectively for a big team now.

If we are gonna play a midfield that looks like this

------Fletcher-------Carrick/Hargreaves-------

Ronaldo-------------Berbatov---------Rooney

then I would rather play a guaranteed finisher ahead of them. Huntelaar is not a bad option
 
If we are gonna play a midfield that looks like this

------Fletcher-------Carrick/Hargreaves-------

Ronaldo-------------Berbatov---------Rooney

then I would rather play a guaranteed finisher ahead of them. Huntelaar is not a bad option

Guaranteed finishers don't have to be one dimensional though. Someone like Anelka, who's movement, pace, dribbling and shooting from range(to an extent) would be much more useful, allied with his finishing.

Same for someone like Villa.
 
I can see Rafa signing him. I think he is good but not above Rooney and Berbatov and I'd rather give Campbell, Welbeck, and Macheda more games than paying 15m for Huntelaar.
 
There is a rumour about Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.

We all know that it's difficult to keep Tevez at Old Trafford and there's probably a good opportunity to sign Huntelaar from Madrid.

Spaniards want about £15m for him and he's likely to leave Bernabeu Stadium. Florentino Perez will probably become their president and he wants to sign some world-class strikers. Ruud van Nistelrooy is also ready to play next season after injury.

Huntelaar played 17 league matches for Madrid this season (he joined them in January) and scored 8 goals. He was left out of their Champions League squad, in favour of Lassana Diarra.

I think we don't need any signings this summer, because we have Rooney and Berbatov (with Campbell, Macheda and Welbeck fighting for third spot). However, £15m seem to be a good occasion to buy Huntelaar, who's not bad player and I think he fits to Premier League more than La Liga and that would mean Campbell won't make it here and Macheda or Welbeck goes on loan.

What do you think?

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I'd take him. He is the deadliest finisher around and he wouldn't mind rotation. Plus he isn't a bad footballer either.
 
Would be fairly predictable though. Mark Berbatov tightly and the supply line is cut almost completely because Huntelaar is never going to create things on his own for himself or his team mates. That leaves restricting the wide players the only job and to be honest, teams have done that quite well recently - with better movement down the middle though, it would help them a lot. But that side doesn't have it by a long margin.
TBF Huntelaar doens't have to create a thing for his team mates. His movement alone would do the damage. No striker in world football makes himself available for a good pass like that fella does.
 
And in much of the games that is more then enough.

Id rather see us sign Benzema but the guy is rated 40m. At 15m Huntelaar would be the bargain of the season.

PS if you manage to block Rooney, Ronaldo and Berbatov you would probably end up winning even against the present side. Tevez is a hardworking chap but he hardly has the technique nor the physical frame to create and score loads of goals by himself.
Seconded
 
Rather he is leaving because Perez sees him as not Galactico enough. Same story with Higuain. In February though he was just stating his ambitions at REAL. Not his unhappiness.

Hmmm, not sure about that.

"I can't stand this situation anymore," he is quoted as telling AS.

"They have neither included me for the Champions League nor do they want to play me in La Liga.

"(Coach) Juande (Ramos) does not have any confidence in me. I want to leave Madrid. I can't bear this."