Seems like a good shot stopper from what I remember of him in world cup. He also appears to be highly rated by some. I am concerned about his stature for sure. Definitely seems a player more suited to Spanish football than the premier league. Still I'd have him over Romero.
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Well, even if United don't care about losing the money, there's still the other downsides that I mentioned. If such a shambolic outcome would be "sweet", I hate to think what a sour outcome would look like.
Off course with the assumption that de Gea will NOT play. He shall sit on the stance for one season. Let's se what that will do with his progress. Unless he signs another 5 years deal. I think the ball is on uniteds court now.
I'd much rather the deal went through. Navas is probably as good a replacement as we could have hoped for, past perhaps Cech. Definitely an upgrade on Romero, and I wouldn't be confident in Van Gaal trusting De Gea anyway.
I don't want another Madrid reject who doesn't want to be here.
Looney van Gaal hasn't trusted to him to play so far, and the player would be furious if this deal hasn't gone through ... so the basis of trust would be even less than before. And the idea that de Gea would sign a new contract with a club that, in his eyes, had shafted him so royally, is ludicrous.
So this failure is on our part? Real Madrid couldn't open a fecking document, it was probably Perez the cnut sitting with his fat fingers on the computer not knowing what to do.
The fact still remains though. United can choose to bench him for a year. That will make any player start to reflect a bit.
Looney has been under the assumption he wouldn't be here after tonight. So has De Gea.
And if anyone shafted him it was Madrid, only a moron would try to blame this on United.
Of course De Gea would love to be paid £60k/week to sit on a bench for a year, and ultimately miss out on playing in the Euros, instead of being paid £200k/week to play in the Prem and Champions League and guarantee his spot for Spain.
If the deal hasn't gone through, RM will spin it to de Gea that United deliberately screwed it up. Whether or not that would be true, whose version do you think de Gea would believe? You're living in denial if you think that de Gea would then just happily knuckle down, far less sign a new contract, especially when he knows that January 1st is just 4 months away.
Jan 1st may be 4 months away, but he would not be allowed to play for anybody until we released him from our books.
And if the deal does not go through tomorrow, I'd expect United to do what is in our best interest: Expect the same fee from Madrid in January, or he stays at the club until his contract ends. Whether he plays for us or not is upto LVG. Personally I think it is possible, but will require a good few weeks for things to settle down and for De Gea to emotionally adjust.
this is insane
Rather misses the point that Real Madrid waited until the last few hours of the transfer window to make a credible offer for him. Also, it's not exactly difficult for United to prove they had nothing to do with botching the deal if that is indeed the case. As many sources are already alluding to.
Given that, would expect De Gea to have at least enough common sense to see where the fault lies.
They can spin it all they like. All we have to do is show him the document we're going to show to FIFA to show our end was all in order. It's really not rocket science.
Not sure where you get the idea we 'shafted him so royally'. De Gea wanted this done before pre season, it's no ones but Madrid's fault they've dragged it out this long. All they had to do was pay the fee and he'd have gone. They didn't until the very last day.
I don't dispute he will end up a Madrid player by July 2016 at the latest, but to suggest he will believe Perez and blame everything on United is ludicrous.
Be interesting whether this goes through without the DDG.
I would assume that DDG and Navas were separate contracts, not conditional, though it would have been agreed they were linked.
I would assume that DDG and Navas were separate contracts, not conditional, though it would have been agreed they were linked.
Agree Madrid tried to feck us over price then folded when it was apparent we wouldn't budge. If the prices and Navas is correct and we have the documentation to prove we are correct (we obviously have) then Ed W has played an absolute blinder and if Real don't use their influence to get it pushed through this will be great watching DDG and Madrid without a 1st choice GK but having payed the fee they should have and still having to wait till Jan to play him. Go Ed they won't feck with you again!
So you're saying we still signed Navas?
Madrid have valued Navas as £11m as part of the deal which is way too high..
Spanish media reporting that Navas fecked up the deal for DDG by wanting to change the contract. Seems strange to me because we could have waited to sign Navas until today.
General thoughts about him are that hes a fine GK but clearly doesnt want to be here so we'll be shipping off one keeper who doesnt want to play for United and bringing in another.
General thoughts about him are that hes a fine GK but clearly doesnt want to be here so we'll be shipping off one keeper who doesnt want to play for United and bringing in another.
Ending up with a midfield of bentaleb and mason.
Don't think we have...Just de gea valdes and romero... Should be enough though
2 pissed off keepers who are both at the end of their contract and a disaster waiting to happen. Philosophy
Just woke up so am I right in saying this ....
Navas paper work gone through because United have until whatever time today to sign him so no problem there .
De gea deal gone through on our side as above but Madrid couldn't register him before 12am last night therefore he is officially not signed ??
So if the deals been signed but ddg not registered then surely that's madrids fault, therefore we still get paid and there left with a player they can't play till January . Unless someone gets a bung ?
Navas paper work gone through because United have until whatever time today to sign him so no problem there .
De gea deal gone through on our side as above but Madrid couldn't register him before 12am last night therefore he is officially not signed ??
So if the deals been signed but ddg not registered then surely that's madrids fault, therefore we still get paid and there left with a player they can't play till January . Unless someone gets a bung ?
I don't think de gea will be that bothered
He now has a few months to negotiate the majority of that fee as a personal signing on fee and he will sign his pre contract in four months
What do you mean they can't play him till January? Till January 2017 you mean or?
Don't think so
It was part of the de gea deal so I believe that's off the table now.
What happens if we have his registration then? I doubt FIFA's system works that way. (IDK anything to be honest)
that's cheating.Oooh burn
I could be wrong but from what I read we were going to use the extra time we have in the UK to finalise the paperwork today on Navas so I figured we just wont finalise it as it was linked to the de gea deal
Given that the coentrao deal fell through at the last moment and of course of famous three lawyers sent over to fail to sign herrera you would have expected a bit more haste on behalf of both parties (if both parties wanted this deal to succeed... though I secretly suspect SAF was sitting back with a large glass of read wine last night smirking and saying something about not selling them a virus)
I think brian ruiz had a similar issue last transfer window... the paperwork was missed by a few minutes and the club appealed - but they lost the appeal
So new reports mention that Madrid were late by 28 minutes. Woddy needs to buy a newspaper and a few jounos before being players tbh. A propaganda machine if you will.
whats the reaction like amongst real madrid fans / on real madrid forums about all this?
Up in arms?
indifference as they think Navas is good and they will sign de gea on a bosman anyway?
Up in arms?
indifference as they think Navas is good and they will sign de gea on a bosman anyway?
What's the matter Glaston, are we just supposed to lie down and let clubs like Madrid sign our players now?
I thought you'd be impressed with us fecking them over (if that is indeed the case) given your own stance on Spurs and Bale/Berbatov/Kane down the years.
Your concern for Real and De Gea is rather funny in that context. Anyone would think you're just a bitter little troll who changes his position depending on how it suits that particular day. Surely not?
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Essentially a good shot stopper with little command of his area. De Gea circa 2011-12 in other words. I agree though, still better than Romero (which we'll see, should this ever actually go through!)
I think he's a great keeper, but I doubt he speaks english, I think someone like Lloris would be better, in terms of communication with our defence. Romero doesn't seem to be ace there either, don't know if it's because of the language-barrier.
So is the rumour still that we will look to sign Navas still? I'd quite like to see that just so DDG sits in the stands for another few months. But I doubt Real are going to want to negotiate with us now.
There goes the Bale and Isco double deal then...
There goes the Bale and Isco double deal then...
It's a great shame that this has fallen through, hilarity aside. Navas is good enough to solve our GK issue and, as we'll be seeing all too clearly over the next few months if we're not careful, Romero is far from being good enough. I wanted DDG out because I don't think it's good to have a sulking player who clearly wants out hanging around like a bad smell and as a fan, I don't want someone like that here either.
Edit: For those saying it might still go through, there's no way real will sanction a move now leaving themselves with only casilla.
Edit: For those saying it might still go through, there's no way real will sanction a move now leaving themselves with only casilla.
What's the matter Glaston, are we just supposed to lie down and let clubs like Madrid sign our players now?
I thought you'd be impressed with us fecking them over (if that is indeed the case) given your own stance on Spurs and Bale/Berbatov/Kane down the years.
Your concern for Real and De Gea is rather funny in that context. Anyone would think you're just a bitter little troll who changes his position depending on how it suits that particular day. Surely not?
It is early but that will be the best rinsing of the day.
Till the next window opens to register him ?
Anyone else confirm that? Amazing if that was true.
This is about what we'd have to pay for a goalkeeper like this.
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