it’s the summer solstice tomorrow. Do they have druid fundamentalists?
Just Stop Oil
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
From reading Nick's other posts over the years, I can only assume that someone comes over by appointment every day specifically to piss on his chips, wedges, hash browns and potato waffles.
These are idiots. Don't expect much.
If Just Stop Oil only protested the same way the suffragettes did, then they would get the change they want.
They could have done with the likes of you two when they fighting against the suffragettes. Proper pair of hard arses.
I can guarantee you that most of the people who have stared at it in wonder these past millennia would be more sympathetic to the people raising awareness of the existential threat to Mother Nature than the people who think cornflower being thrown on stones is more offensive than the crimes against nature big oil are perpetrating.
40 years ago, wow.
https://www.ukrockfestivals.com/henge-history-84.html
https://www.ukrockfestivals.com/henge-history-84.html
Jail the big oil twats too to be fair.
I wouldn't do it but worth pointing out that such sites as these have been vandalize for thousands of years. If you ever paid extremely close attention to certain monolithic structures, or even just very old structures, you'd see graffiti from throughout the ages. Who cares is the point I'm making. It's always happened. Better it was permanent damage giving the way the governments of the world react to climate change. It might linger in the geological record as an I told you so long after humans have killed themselves because of mass produced stupid shit in what amounts to a slave economy.
Great post.
Yes, let's permanently damage Stonehenge, that will really show us.
It's a bit different having the Vikings vandalise something compared to Pete from Just Stop Oil or Timmy from Year 10 writing T <3 R. At least the Vikings were more cultured with their graffiti - Thorni fecked, Helgi carved.
It also seems weird to me because something like Stonehenge is actively being damaged by climate change, unless that's a roundabout point they're making.
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Definitely one of those things where I'm zigging when most lefties zag. Can't get behind this style of protest. Those involved should be heavily punished.
This monument is so important that nobody batted an eye when the government started digging a highway tunnel under it.
There was a large outcry over that
Stonehenge is a cosmological structure. A star-chart actually. Used in all manner of druid rituals which are lost to history. It is, though far apart, an accompaniment to Newgrange. It's a great example of Druid mathematical discursivity among, also, the rites of man. Rites of man, here, is what is central (rites of the human we might say). It is a human rights protest upon a ritual site against the habitual, death-cu.lt, rites of industrial and post-industrial man. Stonehenge is associated with fertility cults. It's fitting in my opinion. And it's hard to permanently damage such a structure giving the facts of geology. It will outlast the surface level defacement unless of course it's blown to bits in a nuclear war of some kind (though why they'd target stonehenge is a different topic).Yes, let's permanently damage Stonehenge, that will really show us.
The point of course being that Pete from just stop oil is no different to the Viking (or any member of any group which left graffiti behind throughout the ages). For an historical site it's ironic that it's a time bias which, in part, causes the outrage.
It’s got scratch marks and initials all over it, people feck there all the time. The lichen point holds a little water but the moral dilemma people are ascribing to is stupid.
Confected outrage. It’s a few lumps of stone.
I mean it's gone all the way to the High Court, with extensive coverage in the media. It's a bit disingenuous to suggest no one has batted an eyelid.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ck552pzexe1o
Stonehenge is an important part of our natural landscape and the natural landscape of that area for thousands of years, which is arguably one of the key things which Just Stop Oil are aiming to protect with their cause, no?
It wasn't damaged at all, you didn't miss that part, right?
The folk who built it would probably be on JSO's side on this one.
Which is the main thing, of course. If it was, it would be a different story.
There's a difference between "hey don't worry it wasn't damaged" and "if it was damaged, why care?".
I just wonder about the categorical nature of that reasoning. There is much reason why you might or would care if something as important, culturally, as Stonehenge were damaged but isn't the point that there is zero amount of that ire translated into action now being directed at global warming and all the sources of it? So much so that Starmer is afraid to mention it in his manifesto unless the right think he's a hippie (irony is enormous).
If it is damaged, why care is almost the sine qua non of capital over capitals (of deathcult capitalism over humanity and its survival, with respect to "nature").
But some people are reacting as if they permanently damaged the structure, talking about prison time. I mean...
This isn't hard for me. There are other ways to make your point.
Somehow I don't believe you'd be as sympathetic if people did something against a heritage site in a non-Western country.
Yeah that's dumb, I agree.
If someone pissed on the great wall of China to highlight global warming I'm fairly certain I'd be as enthusiastic about it.
How do you know there hasn't been permanent damage?
I wouldn't classify piss as damage. But good to know you have no respect for heritage sites.
I think it's a dumb protest. I wonder what ways you think there are to make an environmental point that is effective. (Answer: there are none).
I respect the living more than the dead. Heritage sites are sites for the living (albeit, by the dead). They should be protected. They are also sites of potential protest regarding the conditions of life upon the planet, as in this case. You're wrong to go ad hominem for the inverse would be "glad to see you have no respect for life" which I doubt is true.
Permanent? It’s cornflower mate.
I guess I would look more into the direction of trying to make the existential threat tangible. Show the Dutch that the rising water level is gonna feck em up with well edited demonstration videos of their water defenses collapsing.
I'm not convinced pissing on the great wall of China is way to respect the living.
What was the cornflour dyed with? What liquid was mixed with it?