Just Stop Oil

Yep, when someone annoys me I generally run them over.
 
They are like Batman villains from the Adam West 60’s show. I almost hope Mi5 is funding them as it would at least show the British state has a sense of humour.
 
While I agree that the point of protesting is to cause a nuisance in order to try and force change, I do think that this a poor choice of target.
 
While I agree that the point of protesting is to cause a nuisance in order to try and force change, I do think that this a poor choice of target.

Agreed, the road thing would be annoying, but in reality I think unfortunately for some it's fair game, although they should expect people to be furious. Wrecking a Unesco World Heritage Site is unacceptable really.
 
Stonehenge kept the world in some sort of mystical balance. Now that it's been desecrated we re all fecked and the world will end. It is what it is. Was nice knowing all y'all.
 
Middle class, main character syndrome sufferers believing they are the final vanguard against evil forces destroying the planet. This isn't Lord of the Rings.

Makes me want to burn literal tar sands in my back garden to ensure they perish with me.
 
I think they're starting to border on ecoterrorism. I've not really disagreed with their protests, the issue of global warming justifies causing disruption but this desecration makes me feel uncomfortable.
 
I'd pour boiling oil into their bumholes, mate. But ultimately they're succeeding in getting the attention which they are after.

Could you not make the argument though, that attention isn't quite as good as support?

Pretty much everyone outside JSO detests them and the disruption they are causing.

Constantly doing things like this is only antagonising people further, surely what they need is people to sympathise with them and by extension support their cause?
 
There is more 'concern' for stone henge over some corn dye that dissapears with water, than there was when this government spent three fecking years trying to force through planning for a massive road right under it.
 
I don’t believe the conspiracy theories that JSO are actually agent provocateurs funded by the fossil fuel industry to make climate campaigner look bad…but I can hardly see what they’d be doing differently if that were the case. All these stunts do is alienate the moderates who they need to win over.

There are plenty of other high profile actions they could take that would win them more sympathy while still getting lots of attention - milkshaking an oil company exec, or one of their pet politicians, for example
 
Could you not make the argument though, that attention isn't quite as good as support?

Pretty much everyone outside JSO detests them and the disruption they are causing.

Constantly doing things like this is only antagonising people further, surely what they need is people to sympathise with them and by extension support their cause?
Perhaps they feel that that method will work better once they've got people's attention and they are household names
 
There is more 'concern' for stone henge over some corn dye that dissapears with water, than there was when this government spent three fecking years trying to force through planning for a massive road right under it.

Tbf a tunnel isn't a bad idea in respect to Stonehenge, but the initial plan for it was. A longer tunnel/change of perspective on entrance/exit would be better, with stringent archaeological investigation/consultation as part of the project of course.

Didn't notice at first regarding the pain/corn dye. I suppose it does depend though on what damage it does or has done to the monument. If nothing then that's fine, but there is understandably concern that it has because not all of the monuments are fully understood in regards to their markings and meaning.

I suppose though for me there is a line here as my work partially consists of the preservation and protection of national monuments/heritage.
 
I don’t believe the conspiracy theories that JSO are actually agent provocateurs funded by the fossil fuel industry to make climate campaigner look bad…but I can hardly see what they’d be doing differently if that were the case. All these stunts do is alienate the moderates who they need to win over.

There are plenty of other high profile actions they could take that would win them more sympathy while still getting lots of attention - milkshaking an oil company exec, or one of their pet politicians, for example

I do, its not a new concept. like with 'ANTIFA' in the US, anti-fascists groups of all things are now seen as the bad guys in the public eye.

Not many of them will be involved but stupid cnuts are quite pliable, and there's a lot of us.
 
They're going to almost single handedly allow more draconian anti protest powers to be passed into law. That or they're going to protest in the wrong place and receive a good kicking. The public have long since turned against them.

There does appear to be a need for more powers to stop any old lunatic gluing themselves to a road or destroying property.
 
I don't know how people stop themselves from slapping the heads off these morons. I'm not generally one for violence, but when you see that lady trying to drive her kid to the hospital, or shite like this on sites of historic importance, I'd be throwing digs.
 
They've successfully annoyed people here, and what a stupid choice of target. Literally shows no thinking there whatsoever.

But, and I think I'm right in saying this, they basically cause no damage when they do this? Doesn't that stuff wash straight off that they use? Different story with stone and not glass or something I guess, but I was surprised at how little impact they had. Basically looked like they'd chucked a bit of powder paint on it. Almost pathetic looking.
 
I don't know how people stop themselves from slapping the heads off these morons. I'm not generally one for violence, but when you see that lady trying to drive her kid to the hospital, or shite like this on sites of historic importance, I'd be throwing digs.

You'd start a violent mass brawl over a symbolic gesture that does absolutely zero damage to anything? I think that's pretty strange in and of itself, but even stranger is the fact that you don't understand why other people don't want to do that. It should be pretty obvious why others don't want to beat people up over something harmless, even if you personally want to, no?
 
I don’t know how anyone can come up with such an idiotic strategy. They are gaining ten detractors for every new supporter with this stuff.
 
You'd start a violent mass brawl over a symbolic gesture that does absolutely zero damage to anything? I think that's pretty strange in and of itself, but even stranger is the fact that you don't understand why other people don't want to do that. It should be pretty obvious why others don't want to beat people up over something harmless, even if you personally want to, no?

Throwing paint on historic monuments isn’t harmless in my book. Nor is stopping traffic by sitting in the road. And I didn’t say anything about violent mass brawls - I said if one of these simple minded morons did something like this in front of me, I would slap the stupid out of them.
 
You'd start a violent mass brawl over a symbolic gesture that does absolutely zero damage to anything? I think that's pretty strange in and of itself, but even stranger is the fact that you don't understand why other people don't want to do that. It should be pretty obvious why others don't want to beat people up over something harmless, even if you personally want to, no?
I'm due to visit Stonehenge tomorrow en route home.

How does trying to ruin my trip to an ancient monument save the planet? It won't, it's for attention and a saviour/narcissism complex.

Basically eco-scientologists.

And it wouldn't be a massive brawl, they're the least threatening people alive.