Enormous amounts of sunshine is obviously better and more efficient, but solar can and does produce power even on cloudy and rainy days, too many people beleive the misconception that they only work with lots of sunshine
Just Stop Oil
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What percentage of output do you get on cloudy wet day, otherwise known as a normal day in Lancashire?
No idea but it's not nothing, but on such a day there'll be some wind, so a combination of solar and windmills should be able to do the trick
TBH, I really don't understand why more is not done in relation to tidal power, tides are enirely predictable and IMO more should be spent on researh to overcome the difficulties and shortcomings, mins you that wouldprobably set off amother group worried about some bird or fish that might get affected!
The right are trying to create a scare campaign that solar farms will destroy agriculture but I don't think they are getting much traction.
Interestingly the Australian state with the most renewable energy and zero base load generation has the most secure grid. That will only get better as battery storage gradually comes online.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/south-a...y-state-not-fretting-about-a-vulnerable-grid/
https://reneweconomy.com.au/south-a...y-state-not-fretting-about-a-vulnerable-grid/
Rest in peace
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...he-hi-vis-after-three-years-of-climate-action
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...he-hi-vis-after-three-years-of-climate-action
Just Stop Oil to ‘hang up the hi-vis’ after three years of climate action
Final gathering in April will mark end of street protests although campaign to continue ‘in courts and prisons’Did they stop the oil?
Good riddance, miss you never. cnuts.
I thought I hadn't seen them at work recently, gutted I was hoping they'd paint our office and get it shut down for a couple of days
Yeah what cnuts for protesting climate change
Rest in Petroleum.
cnuts, we should all be bathing in oil and worshipping our Evil oil overlords. They're damn terrorists I tells you! They delayed me once by 15 minutes!
Agreed I can't wait to purposefully sunbathe in the 52 degree heat and die in the summer of 2032 purely to spite them. Burn me baby.
Probably the silliest protest of all time. Sitting on the road and keep saying "just stop oil" even if youre about to get run over by car, then if someone force you to move just move back so you can get run over again. The jehovah witness of protesters.
Everybody knows them and knows their protests, doesn't seem so silly to me. They got their message to everyone.
And the message is theyre obnoxious and would like to be run over. Meanwhile im sure some of the things they use are made with plastics, why didnt they just stop?
I don’t think you read the signs properly.
I think their method is counterproductive. People hate them and see the movement as annoyance more than anything else.
It’s only counterproductive if people get annoyed by delays which pale astronomically in comparison to the grand scheme of the problem facing the planet. At least they’re trying to do something which is more than can be said for most.
When i next fill up my car with gas (or petrol) i'm gonig to spill a little out for the homies.
If no one was pissed off with Rosa Parks sitting on a bus, it wouldn’t have had the impact it did. Successful protest has to be radical and always has been, it'll always wind people up.
There's a good quote from one of the leaders of Just Stop Oil.
and another one
Their protests may have annoyed you but they're far from silly. The similar style of protests by Insulate Britain, saw the public understanding of insulating homes skyrocket, coverage of insulation went up in the media and therefore went up on the political agenda as well.
Bang on.
All societal change is brought about by protest that disrupted no one.
Just look at the French revolution. They didnt go around sitting on roads. Maybe they should copy their methods.
People who claim protest should always be peaceful and shouldn’t be an inconvenience to anyone are either completely ignorant of basically the complete history of protest or just talking crap on purpose.
Oh they can disrupt things but not to the extent of blocking roads. Yes they are seen and made into the headlines but did they really change the minds of people? I dont know, if there are surveys about it Id love to see the result. Because thats the only way to really know if the method is really working.
People have to go to work, school, or for medical/emergency reasons. These are average people who have places to go to, most of them work to feed their family. And there is probably a punishment if theyre late. Of course they have the right to be pissed off.
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And don't give a shit about the problem itself.
If you streak onto the pitch of a non-league game to protest VAR you probably also make the news. Doesn't mean its a meaningful contribution towards anything though.
So what would have them do?
I think it's worse than not giving a shit.
People don't want to change, they don't want disruption in their lives unless they get an immediate benefit, they're all for ending climate change as long as they don't have to actually do anything or give anything up.
This gives them the excuse to do less because they can claim some people were disrupted or someone missed a hospital appointment etc. It's an excuse they are really happy to take.
The snooker one was the funniest
Campaigning for full nudity everywhere and at all times is a movement.
Again i dont know the effectiveness of anything, but I guess protesting on the side of the road would still gather attention. Oh and yeah they should stop wearing plastics on their body as well, just so people can see theyre actually doing what theyre fighting for.
Protesting at the side of the road is not effective and wouldn't generate any coverage.
As for them not wearing any plastic, I'm not sure it's the "gotcha" moment you think it is. Expecting those that advocate for change to perfectly personify that change themselves is unrealistic, and shouldn't be a prerequisite protest, if that was the case there would be no protest ever.
It's like saying they should never use oil to heat their homes, never get in a vehicle, they shouldn't receive any post because it's delivered in a van, shouldn't use trains because of diesel etc, it's a silly argument.
The snooker pundits reacted like it was a terrorist attack“You prick, get him off”.one punter liked the protest a little too much!
Nope. That’s not how this works and exactly what I meant. If they don’t disrupt, nobody cares. It’s that simple.
I fully support disrupting snooker in amusing ways. There doesn't even have to be a message.
Yep! Probably the most interesting thing all day to happen.
Looking forward to the "Just Stop Tesla" regen