twice as languid as berba with 1/10th of the talent / ability
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- Appearances
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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twice as languid as berba with 1/10th of the talent / ability
What salary is he on?
Yes but it happened because of Hojlund’s run. My point was you can attribute any goal or good action to something bad the other player/team did most of the time. It’s just a strange perspective to look at things with.
I genuinely thought this guy was going to be one of the signings of the season. Couldn't have been more wrong.
I can't remember seeing a new signing showing so little fight in their first few months.
He plays like he's on tranquilizers.
I can't remember seeing a new signing showing so little fight in their first few months.
He plays like he's on tranquilizers.
He's a five a side player.
I thought it would be difficult to find a player who shows less enthusiasm and motivation than Rashford did last season but here we are.
More like five yards away player.
He must have some stand-out qualities. We all remember how terrible Vidic was when he joined the club. Evra at least had his speed, but he too improved massively.
Who knows, maybe Zirkzee buckles down, improves his intensity levels, gets tougher in duels and plays the game quicker. His technique looks decent.
An even stranger transfer considering Amorim. I just don't see what he does now, nevermind next month. What purpose does he fulfill that no one else does and how does it improve the goalscoring situation? Try as I might, I don't see it. I'd get it if he was physical and relentless, but the guy is probably the least combative 6.4" player I've seen. He is supposed to play with the wings, but they are dire. I don't know, maybe he could work in a front three, but he isn't exactly a pressing machine.
Conflicting reports say either £56k a week or around £100k. The latter sounds more likely, I'd say. Either way, we're talking squad wages, not expected starter wages.
Woeful. Needs to lose about 20 lbs. Plays like he’s caned.
The lad looks completely lost. I just don’t see a player there.
He’s been really, really bad. Looks shot of confidence too
I thought he started the season well despite not scoring tons.
Been gash for a while since though.
I genuinely worry we wasted a lot of money in the summer again.
Been gash for a while since though.
I genuinely worry we wasted a lot of money in the summer again.
Yay! Rationality. The pile on is ridiculous. His confidence is on the floor and the game he has has clearly deserted him for the time being.
He may not have the mentality to be here rather than the ability. Adjusting to the PL comes quicker for some than others; everything looks way too fast for him at the moment, but that shouldn't define him as a player because we've seen it happen to many a player before they adjusted.
His lack of pace and lack of instinct inside the box makes me think he just isn't a #9 and even if he's a forward, he is not a ball-busting striker who comes alive close to goal. He looks like he plays deep naturally, problem with that is we didn't need a forward who plays deep...
Very surprised by his lack of strength; normally if a player is slow, they are strong, often ridiculously so, but he seems to be neither strong or robust and that's where he may have a very serious problem in the PL because you can't be so unathletically "gifted" here and survive.
Methinks he'll take a leap if he manages to remain at the club beyond next summer to have a preseason adjusted, but for now, there's going to be a lot of tough times ahead as he has neither confidence nor fitness.
Is he a footballer?
I wanted to add to that Bologna under Motta played so technical and hard football for the opponents to track - center backs roaming around and everyone having one-twos with the ball to keep it moving. Usually, he or anyone else who appeared in the attacking position was so much more open than any attacking player in our current setup. That highlights everyone's potential short-comings or if they are out of form or short in confidence much more.
Yes, you can see he needs people orbiting him as he can't do much if isolated and 1on1. When he first played he was linking and moving and keeping things flowing really well and that's likely to be his best profile when fit and confident. Trying to get this guy to play like a conventional striker is impossible and we shouldn't be trying to do that.
He should consider dropping some weight cos he's not quick at all
Dropping weight isnt going to do much difference if he cant be arsed to move in the first place.
Exactly what i see. Just need the cig on the sideline before coming on
Similar feeling to van de Beek, that he won't work out here..
May be we should have signed Welbeck
May be we should have signed Welbeck
Isn't he basically being played out of position or being asked to play a role he can't/doesn't play? From reading about him elsewhere, he isn't a CF and isn't a goal-scorer. He scored 13 goals at Bologna in 53 matches, and 16 goals in 38 for Anderlecht.
Wiki claims: Zirkzee is a versatile forward. His height and strength enable him to be dominant in the air as well as play with his back to goal and hold up the ball. Despite his tall frame, he has excellent technique and dribbling abilities which also allow him to drop deeper into a more traditional playmaker position.[38]
and I have to say I haven't seen any of that yet. Weghorst seemed like a better link player, same hoodoo in front of goal though.
It seems counterintuitive to play him in the middle and expect Rashford and Garnacho to find him with crosses. He needs to play in the hole. Trequartista? I don't even know what it would be called anymore, but he's not comfortable leading the line and doesn't have poacher's instincts, or he has the poacher's instincts of a midfielder, not unlike McTominay. I don't know what system ETH wanted us to play, but maybe the new guy can figure it out.
Watched utd since early 60's. Going on what we've seen so far. Worst player I've seen in a utd shirt and definately the worst signing.
I still don't necessarily think he's crap. He's just not suited to the league, or at least not to United. You simply can't be this slow I think. His first few games he had quite a few extremely smooth touches and nice passages of link up play, so he definitely does have qualities, but right now that's deserted him too.
Just ssems more suited to Spain or Italy, than the prem.
0 pace eh? He runs like me after I've had a kebab or 2 before the 5-a-side games
He needs time but the early signs are worrisome. His acceleration is non existent and he isn’t making up for it in other areas. Our ability to add players with glaring weaknesses is something else.
Thanks. At the £56k he will be easy to move on if we decide to. £100k and we could be stuck if he doesn't start to perform.
This "with time" is the best defense for shite players. Hope we move him on pretty quick if he doesn't improve in the next 6-8 months. So far he looks totally unsuited to the league. Serie A is what he needs to shine with his lack of pace and lackadaisical style. Fingers crossed, Juve and Motta will bail us out next summer if it's not working out (Likely) rather than us allowing him to linger on in the hope that he becomes the next Zlatan.
Hope we sell him in January and send out a message that mediocre attackers will not be tolerated at Man Utd anymore. Same with Antony. Zirkzee looks god awful.
Rashford and Garnacho need a talking to as well. We don't look like scoring with these at all.
Rashford and Garnacho need a talking to as well. We don't look like scoring with these at all.
Bet he'd smash it at walking football
For me its not the pace/speed but his reaction time and intensity. He's slow to react and puts minimial energy into when he tries things and because they arent working out it makes you wonder if he couldnt just try harder and put a bit more energy into it they might have worked
Yes he was caught by the CB when running through and no pace isnt something he offers the frontline, but I think he's average paced rather than slow and there are strikers his speed who have done well in the premier league. One of them has 8 goals so far this season, Chris Wood. Thats about completely different things than his speed. He's in the box and gets on the end of crosses. Zirkzee on the other hand isnt in the box a lot and isnt particularly good at getting on the end of balls in.
He's utterly shocking. I'd get rid in January.
How on earth do a group of people highlight a player like Zirkzee, scout him and then agree to buy him?
He literally plays like a celebrity or an old ex pro on soccer Aid. Looks like he's won a competition to play for Utd.
Already looks like he will be another Donny Van De Beek that we spend years trying to shift before getting peanuts for him.
He literally plays like a celebrity or an old ex pro on soccer Aid. Looks like he's won a competition to play for Utd.
Already looks like he will be another Donny Van De Beek that we spend years trying to shift before getting peanuts for him.
Along with Antony and maybe even Mount.
Yes he does look lost. And overawed by playing in the PL. I am quite concerned with his lack of pace or close control.
Seems like he needs a great deal of work to extract even a decent level of performance. Bit of a worry.
coaches and defenders spent hours and hours watching videos of him after his debut goal and figured him out in the end. it happens.
Needs to play in the reserves for a few games. Quite shocked how lazy and weak he's looked.
Mate, a while back, I made a thread about which of the summer signings was most likely to be world class. My pick was Yoro, with him second
. Most people went for De ligt. So far, it's not looking good for him.
Its not just that he's slow. His confidence is clearly shot, he's struggling to get used to the league and his team mates don't know how to use him. The latter is made worse because he's so different from all the other options we have.
I still think there's a player in there, we saw a glimpse of this at Palace. Hopefully Amorim can get the best out of him and the team.
In any field of work if a new starter looks like they can't be arsed from Day 1 then the chances of them suddenly turning out to be good at their job are miniscule.
He's been given the opportunity to play for Manchester United and he looks like he'd rather be in bed playing X-box since his debut.
feck knows how we signed him but if INEOS are serious practicioners they should already be looking at how we get rid.
He's been given the opportunity to play for Manchester United and he looks like he'd rather be in bed playing X-box since his debut.
feck knows how we signed him but if INEOS are serious practicioners they should already be looking at how we get rid.
Amorim will ditch him for Gyokares, either in the winter or next summer (and yes, I'm aware Amorim has said he won't be raiding Sporting for players in the winter window).